Tesla: Model 3 News
#161
Right. Because one can determine the build quality by looking at pics of a pre-production car on a computer screen.
You probably haven't even been in a Model S or Model X.
This is a car, not a truck or sports utility vehicle.
Model 3 doesn't cost $100K.
WTF does a NSX have to do with the Model 3 or a Lexus LX 570?
Another fail troll attempt
You probably haven't even been in a Model S or Model X.
This is a car, not a truck or sports utility vehicle.
Model 3 doesn't cost $100K.
WTF does a NSX have to do with the Model 3 or a Lexus LX 570?
Another fail troll attempt
LX i put as real SUV with tall stance having commanding view of the road and unbreakable quality and isolation of body on frame.
Tesla SUV is merely a minivan. they should call it a minivan. this giant screen is cost saving measure and is distraction.
#162
Team Owner
Don't know about quarterly delivery goals/expectations, but for full year deliveries since the introduction of the Model S in 2012, the only year they met or exceeded delivery goals/expectations was for 2013. Every other year they missed.
They planned to delivery 5,000 vehicles for 2012 --> Tesla Motors to Begin Customer Deliveries of Model S on June 22nd (NASDAQ:TSLA)
They only delivered 2,650 --> Tesla Motors - Current Report
2013 delivery goal was for 20,000 vehicles --> Tesla Motors - Current Report
They delivered 22,447 vehicles in 2013 --> Tesla Motors - Current Report
2014 deliver goal was for more than 50,000 vehicles --> Tesla Building 60,000 Cars By 2015 - Business Insider
They delivered 31,655 --> Tesla Q4 Hit By Delivery Shortfall, But Company Expects To Be Back On Track In Q1 | TechCrunch
Their delivery goal for 2015 was for more than 100,000 vehicles --> Tesla Ready to Pump Out 100,000 Cars Per Year by 2015 - Bloomberg
They delivered 50,580 vehicles --> Tesla delivers more cars than ever before, but its stock price dives - LA Times
They planned to delivery 5,000 vehicles for 2012 --> Tesla Motors to Begin Customer Deliveries of Model S on June 22nd (NASDAQ:TSLA)
They only delivered 2,650 --> Tesla Motors - Current Report
2013 delivery goal was for 20,000 vehicles --> Tesla Motors - Current Report
They delivered 22,447 vehicles in 2013 --> Tesla Motors - Current Report
2014 deliver goal was for more than 50,000 vehicles --> Tesla Building 60,000 Cars By 2015 - Business Insider
They delivered 31,655 --> Tesla Q4 Hit By Delivery Shortfall, But Company Expects To Be Back On Track In Q1 | TechCrunch
Their delivery goal for 2015 was for more than 100,000 vehicles --> Tesla Ready to Pump Out 100,000 Cars Per Year by 2015 - Bloomberg
They delivered 50,580 vehicles --> Tesla delivers more cars than ever before, but its stock price dives - LA Times
#163
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i mean that you dont need this kind of shape for reducing the drag. NSX has total airflow management and much wider car than Tesla. and it does not look this egg shape.
LX i put as real SUV with tall stance having commanding view of the road and unbreakable quality and isolation of body on frame.
Tesla SUV is merely a minivan. they should call it a minivan. this giant screen is cost saving measure and is distraction.
LX i put as real SUV with tall stance having commanding view of the road and unbreakable quality and isolation of body on frame.
Tesla SUV is merely a minivan. they should call it a minivan. this giant screen is cost saving measure and is distraction.
0.2455 (1:5) Tatra 77 1933
0.24 Mercedes-Benz S-Class[112] 2014–Present
0.24 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Sedan[113] 2014–Present
0.24 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid 2016
0.24 Tesla Model S[114] 2012
0.24 Tesla Model X[115] 2015
0.24 Toyota Prius[116] 2016
0.212 (according to some sources: 1:5 model test)[117][118][119] Tatra T77A 1935[120]
[121] [122] [123]
0.21 Tesla Model 3[124] 2017
0.195 General Motors EV1 1996
0.189 Volkswagen XL1 2013
#165
Team Owner
For the reduction of drag that Tesla is aiming for you do. Only manufacturer that has got it right with design and drag is Mercedes.
0.2455 (1:5) Tatra 77 1933
0.24 Mercedes-Benz S-Class[112] 2014–Present
0.24 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Sedan[113] 2014–Present
0.24 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid 2016
0.24 Tesla Model S[114] 2012
0.24 Tesla Model X[115] 2015
0.24 Toyota Prius[116] 2016
0.212 (according to some sources: 1:5 model test)[117][118][119] Tatra T77A 1935[120]
[121] [122] [123]
0.21 Tesla Model 3[124] 2017
0.195 General Motors EV1 1996
0.189 Volkswagen XL1 2013
0.2455 (1:5) Tatra 77 1933
0.24 Mercedes-Benz S-Class[112] 2014–Present
0.24 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Sedan[113] 2014–Present
0.24 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid 2016
0.24 Tesla Model S[114] 2012
0.24 Tesla Model X[115] 2015
0.24 Toyota Prius[116] 2016
0.212 (according to some sources: 1:5 model test)[117][118][119] Tatra T77A 1935[120]
[121] [122] [123]
0.21 Tesla Model 3[124] 2017
0.195 General Motors EV1 1996
0.189 Volkswagen XL1 2013
Oh, and look! Hyundai made the list!!
#166
For the reduction of drag that Tesla is aiming for you do. Only manufacturer that has got it right with design and drag is Mercedes.
0.2455 (1:5) Tatra 77 1933
0.24 Mercedes-Benz S-Class[112] 2014–Present
0.24 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Sedan[113] 2014–Present
0.24 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid 2016
0.24 Tesla Model S[114] 2012
0.24 Tesla Model X[115] 2015
0.24 Toyota Prius[116] 2016
0.212 (according to some sources: 1:5 model test)[117][118][119] Tatra T77A 1935[120]
[121] [122] [123]
0.21 Tesla Model 3[124] 2017
0.195 General Motors EV1 1996
0.189 Volkswagen XL1 2013
0.2455 (1:5) Tatra 77 1933
0.24 Mercedes-Benz S-Class[112] 2014–Present
0.24 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Sedan[113] 2014–Present
0.24 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid 2016
0.24 Tesla Model S[114] 2012
0.24 Tesla Model X[115] 2015
0.24 Toyota Prius[116] 2016
0.212 (according to some sources: 1:5 model test)[117][118][119] Tatra T77A 1935[120]
[121] [122] [123]
0.21 Tesla Model 3[124] 2017
0.195 General Motors EV1 1996
0.189 Volkswagen XL1 2013
#167
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#168
And this is based on your extensive knowledge and experience as an automotive designer and engineer?
Wow, imagine that, a car with more horsepower (290 hp) is faster than a car with less horsepower (241 hp). You mean there's some truth to that thing we call physics?
"practically matches" Not even close.
City / Highway MPG looks pretty close to me.
Wow, imagine that, a car with more horsepower (290 hp) is faster than a car with less horsepower (241 hp). You mean there's some truth to that thing we call physics?
City / Highway MPG looks pretty close to me.
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I love how a performing electric sedan's design is being compared against a pure sports car.
The levels of genius found in this are astounding.
For real, why the fuck is this dumbass still allowed to post? Its not amusing, its just pathetic.
The levels of genius found in this are astounding.
For real, why the fuck is this dumbass still allowed to post? Its not amusing, its just pathetic.
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#170
And this is based on your extensive knowledge and experience as an automotive designer and engineer?
Wow, imagine that, a car with more horsepower (290 hp) is faster than a car with less horsepower (241 hp). You mean there's some truth to that thing we call physics?
"practically matches" Not even close.
City / Highway MPG looks pretty close to me.
Wow, imagine that, a car with more horsepower (290 hp) is faster than a car with less horsepower (241 hp). You mean there's some truth to that thing we call physics?
"practically matches" Not even close.
City / Highway MPG looks pretty close to me.
put 18inch heavy all season tires on them and see how much difference is
0-130mph.
Just look at noise level in C450AMG. it is unrefined junk compared to TLX. with piss poor fuel economy of 18mpg.
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...nuary-2016.pdf
superior aerodynamics should completely hushed noise level with superior fuel economy and superior performance with all season crappiest tires.
#171
Moderator
you pull this numbers form C&D?. C450AMG has summer performance tires.
put 18inch heavy all season tires on them and see how much difference is
0-130mph.
Just look at noise level in C450AMG. it is unrefined junk compared to TLX. with piss poor fuel economy of 18mpg.
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...nuary-2016.pdf
superior aerodynamics should completely hushed noise level with superior fuel economy and superior performance with all season crappiest tires.
put 18inch heavy all season tires on them and see how much difference is
0-130mph.
Just look at noise level in C450AMG. it is unrefined junk compared to TLX. with piss poor fuel economy of 18mpg.
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...nuary-2016.pdf
superior aerodynamics should completely hushed noise level with superior fuel economy and superior performance with all season crappiest tires.
#172
No, SSFTSX. It is you who is unrefined junk.
#173
It not just MB cd figures are unreliable but Hyundai Sonata Hybrid so called Cd of 0.24 claim.
2014 Accord hybrid 0-100mph in 20.6 second. 41mpg on wider tires
2014 Honda Accord Hybrid Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
2016 hyundai hybrid 0-100mph in 22.1 second. 34mpg.
0-120mph of 37 second. that is embarrasment.
2016 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
2014 Accord hybrid 0-100mph in 20.6 second. 41mpg on wider tires
2014 Honda Accord Hybrid Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
2016 hyundai hybrid 0-100mph in 22.1 second. 34mpg.
0-120mph of 37 second. that is embarrasment.
2016 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
#176
Team Owner
What an idiot. and yet he rambles on.
You know, after being disproved about 1341789 times whenever he has a tool of a comment, you'd think he'd give up. Man, he is dumber than he sounds, which I didn't think was possible
You know, after being disproved about 1341789 times whenever he has a tool of a comment, you'd think he'd give up. Man, he is dumber than he sounds, which I didn't think was possible
#177
Team Owner
0-120mph of 37 second. that is embarrasment.
2016 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
Yes, but sure, it's not fair to compare a car with summer tires to one with all seasons, but it's fair to compare a lower powered hybrid that is being sold as a green car, not a performance car, to a standard car
He needs to be banned. Asap. At least Rocky Boy was funny at times
#178
Dude, quit manipulating stuff. You're posting stuff about the Sonata Hybrid It has reduced power all around
Yes, but sure, it's not fair to compare a car with summer tires to one with all seasons, but it's fair to compare a lower powered hybrid that is being sold as a green car, not a performance car, to a standard car
He needs to be banned. Asap. At least Rocky Boy was funny at times
Yes, but sure, it's not fair to compare a car with summer tires to one with all seasons, but it's fair to compare a lower powered hybrid that is being sold as a green car, not a performance car, to a standard car
He needs to be banned. Asap. At least Rocky Boy was funny at times
Accord hybrid is also quieter than V6.
2014 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring First Test - Motor Trend
Off the dragstrip, and with the hybrid system details out of sight and out of mind, the car drives brilliantly. I’ve listed observed highway fuel economy numbers at the article’s end over a roundabout 1850-mile drive from San Antonio, Texas, back to MT Central near LAX by way of south Colorado. It’s quieter than its I-4 and V-6 counterparts with a deftly controlled ride that makes long drives easy on the driver
Off the dragstrip, and with the hybrid system details out of sight and out of mind, the car drives brilliantly. I’ve listed observed highway fuel economy numbers at the article’s end over a roundabout 1850-mile drive from San Antonio, Texas, back to MT Central near LAX by way of south Colorado. It’s quieter than its I-4 and V-6 counterparts with a deftly controlled ride that makes long drives easy on the driver
2016 Sonata Hybrid is slower than Accord.
2016 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid First Test
At the track, the Sonata Hybrid ran from zero to 60 mph in 8.3 seconds and finished the quarter mile in 16.3 seconds at 86.5 mph. It’s slower than the Toyota Camry Hybrid and Honda Accord Hybrid — both of which hit 60 mph in 7.1 seconds
At the track, the Sonata Hybrid ran from zero to 60 mph in 8.3 seconds and finished the quarter mile in 16.3 seconds at 86.5 mph. It’s slower than the Toyota Camry Hybrid and Honda Accord Hybrid — both of which hit 60 mph in 7.1 seconds
#179
Team Owner
You're an idiot
The sonata hybrid is 100% about being green. They don't give two fucks about performance of that car.
I also didn't call the fit a sedan, dummy.
Go on. Keep padding yourself on the shoulder, reinforcing to yourself, and only yourself, that you're smart, while the rest of us think you're the dumbest fuck AZ has ever seen. You're an absolute brain dead retard.
The sonata hybrid is 100% about being green. They don't give two fucks about performance of that car.
I also didn't call the fit a sedan, dummy.
Go on. Keep padding yourself on the shoulder, reinforcing to yourself, and only yourself, that you're smart, while the rest of us think you're the dumbest fuck AZ has ever seen. You're an absolute brain dead retard.
#181
Team Owner
And this is based on your extensive knowledge and experience as an automotive designer and engineer?
Wow, imagine that, a car with more horsepower (290 hp) is faster than a car with less horsepower (241 hp). You mean there's some truth to that thing we call physics?
"practically matches" Not even close.
City / Highway MPG looks pretty close to me.
Wow, imagine that, a car with more horsepower (290 hp) is faster than a car with less horsepower (241 hp). You mean there's some truth to that thing we call physics?
"practically matches" Not even close.
City / Highway MPG looks pretty close to me.
"those are just published numbers, they do not indicate the real world result due to Honda's superior aero package that includes the mirror, 4x4 look, front windshield wiper and rear wiper, not to mention the directional wheels. Also remember, Honda's bhp is superior, so you can get more for less, alot less.
I am the voice of reason, i pick and choose from the magazine about what is reliabile info and what is not."
I am the voice of reason, i pick and choose from the magazine about what is reliabile info and what is not."
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#183
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well when you have SSFTSX contributing, what do you really expect?
#184
Tesla combustible económico es más superioridad aerodinámica
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#185
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The grill on the LX is . They should try the no grill look.
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#186
Lower drag coefficient claim like 0.24 should make Sonata hybrid more fuel economic at higher speeds. It simple can't compete with Accord hybrid despite Accord having wider tires
#187
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#189
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That's a bannable offense, isn't it?
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My friend's dad pre-ordered one and he's at like 250,000. I wonder how long he would need to wait when production begins.
#195
https://www.teslamotors.com/blog/the..._medium=social
The Week that Electric Vehicles Went Mainstream
The Tesla Team
April 7, 2016
A week ago, we started taking reservations for Model 3, and the excitement has been incredible. We’ve now received more than 325,000 reservations, which corresponds to about $14 billion in implied future sales, making this the single biggest one-week launch of any product ever. This interest has spread completely organically. Unlike other major product launches, we haven’t advertised or paid for any endorsements. Instead, this has been a true grassroots effort driven by the passion of the Tesla team that’s worked so hard to get to this point and our current and future customers who believe so strongly in what we are trying to achieve. Most importantly, we are all taking a huge step towards a better future by accelerating the transition to sustainable transportation.
We want to thank everyone who has shown their faith in Tesla and the mission of electric vehicles. We would write more, but we need to get back to increasing our Model 3 production plans!
The Tesla Team
April 7, 2016
A week ago, we started taking reservations for Model 3, and the excitement has been incredible. We’ve now received more than 325,000 reservations, which corresponds to about $14 billion in implied future sales, making this the single biggest one-week launch of any product ever. This interest has spread completely organically. Unlike other major product launches, we haven’t advertised or paid for any endorsements. Instead, this has been a true grassroots effort driven by the passion of the Tesla team that’s worked so hard to get to this point and our current and future customers who believe so strongly in what we are trying to achieve. Most importantly, we are all taking a huge step towards a better future by accelerating the transition to sustainable transportation.
We want to thank everyone who has shown their faith in Tesla and the mission of electric vehicles. We would write more, but we need to get back to increasing our Model 3 production plans!
#196
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To my knowledge they haven't told anyone where their spots are in line. I believe in the release Elon Musk mentioned there were around 200k reservations but they opened them up online a couple hours before the announcement. I made mine at a store not long after they opened so I'm hoping I'm within the first 100k.
#198
Team Owner
Going to be as many Model 3 on the road as Camry, if they can build them.
#199
Safety Car
A quick wiki shows Tesla delivered about 100k Model S from 2012-2015 (globally). About 63k from US.
They have 325k pre-orders for the Model 3 (I assume majority from US orders)
Hmm.....when does the vaporware meme start?
#200
Liquid Ice
From Jalopnik ... http://jalopnik.com/elon-musk-asked-...ode-1768897141
What do you guys think if the Model 3 had a different bumper that looked like this?
Someone tweeted to Elon Musk and he asked for a picture of the photoshop, so who knows
or LOL if everything stays the same - someone said they were going to sell Vinyl stickers for the Model 3 - like these ...
What do you guys think if the Model 3 had a different bumper that looked like this?
Someone tweeted to Elon Musk and he asked for a picture of the photoshop, so who knows
or LOL if everything stays the same - someone said they were going to sell Vinyl stickers for the Model 3 - like these ...