Lexus: ES News
07-06-2004, 05:17 PM
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Lexus: ES News
These are the pics of the facelifted Toyota Windom which is sold in Japan. Could this be the new ES330?
Source: Toyota.jp
Source: Toyota.jp
07-06-2004, 05:55 PM
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Looks about the same to me, but I never really noticed the older version much at all. Definitely looks like a boat. That car excites me about as much as going to the dentist
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07-07-2004, 02:01 AM
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hail to the victors
ES330 is definitely for those who wants quiet and reliable luxury car. i love its interior, leather, and the world leading quietness. ES330 is so quiet, no other competitor comes close.
07-07-2004, 03:23 PM
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reminded me of this..
http://images.andale.com/f2/123/123/...w_94_95_Accord
Its the same thing, except with new tails and projectors...I think Lexus is going with projectors in all of their cars...I think all of the cards have it, except the GS...with the next gen does...
http://images.andale.com/f2/123/123/...w_94_95_Accord
Its the same thing, except with new tails and projectors...I think Lexus is going with projectors in all of their cars...I think all of the cards have it, except the GS...with the next gen does...
07-07-2004, 03:24 PM
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07-07-2004, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
I honestly think it looks the same as the current ES... 
YUP!! I realize that Toyota sought to distinguish the ES from its Camry sibling but, this experiment has gone HORRIBLY awry. $.02
07-07-2004, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
looks a little better but still a boat
07-08-2004, 11:41 AM
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The 2005 is getting a slight facelift with the following:
Revised Headlamps
New Grille
New Lower Intake Bar
Sportier Foglamps
Revised Tailamps
New Equipment:
Optional Ventilated Seats
Front Passenger Seat Memory
Tire Pressure Monitor
Rear Seatbelt Tensioner
New Steering Wheel Control Buttons
New Wood, Color Matched Controls, Light Silver Finish
Revised Headlamps
New Grille
New Lower Intake Bar
Sportier Foglamps
Revised Tailamps
New Equipment:
Optional Ventilated Seats
Front Passenger Seat Memory
Tire Pressure Monitor
Rear Seatbelt Tensioner
New Steering Wheel Control Buttons
New Wood, Color Matched Controls, Light Silver Finish
07-08-2004, 10:32 PM
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The only thing missing is a more powerful engine.
07-09-2004, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Edward
The only thing missing is a more powerful engine.
07-09-2004, 07:04 PM
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Just wonder what's on Toyota's mind. Most competitors, such as J35, G35, TL, are having around 260-270 hps. Even the upcoming 3.2L-V6 from Volks/Audi is rumoured to have 255 hps.
Do people really prefer luxury over performance ? If it is the case, why would Lexus put a V6, not an inline-4, into the IS300 ?
Do people really prefer luxury over performance ? If it is the case, why would Lexus put a V6, not an inline-4, into the IS300 ?
07-09-2004, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward
Just wonder what's on Toyota's mind. Most competitors, such as J35, G35, TL, are having around 260-270 hps. Even the upcoming 3.2L-V6 from Volks/Audi is rumoured to have 255 hps.
Do people really prefer luxury over performance ? If it is the case, why would Lexus put a V6, not an inline-4, into the IS300 ?
Do people really prefer luxury over performance ? If it is the case, why would Lexus put a V6, not an inline-4, into the IS300 ?
07-10-2004, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Zoot
Yes, in the market of this car people prefer luxury over peroformance. Want performance u buy the IS300 or GS! That's y the ES is FWD and the others are not. Different people buy these cars
When I go to Charleston, it's the car of choice there. It replaced many a Caddy. Luxurious and soft. I would know.
07-10-2004, 04:03 AM
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charleston, SC? that's where i'm from. and lexus is very popular in charleston. my mom and probably almost all her friends drives ES330. people like my parents doesn't care about the power. as long as the badge is lexus, they will trust it and buy it.
When I go to Charleston, it's the car of choice there. It replaced many a Caddy. Luxurious and soft.
I would know.
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When I go to Charleston, it's the car of choice there. It replaced many a Caddy. Luxurious and soft. I would know.
07-10-2004, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
charleston, SC? that's where i'm from. and lexus is very popular in charleston. my mom and probably almost all her friends drives ES330. people like my parents doesn't care about the power. as long as the badge is lexus, they will trust it and buy it.
07-10-2004, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward
Just wonder what's on Toyota's mind. Most competitors, such as J35, G35, TL, are having around 260-270 hps. Even the upcoming 3.2L-V6 from Volks/Audi is rumoured to have 255 hps.
Do people really prefer luxury over performance ? If it is the case, why would Lexus put a V6, not an inline-4, into the IS300 ?
Do people really prefer luxury over performance ? If it is the case, why would Lexus put a V6, not an inline-4, into the IS300 ?
07-11-2004, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoot
Yes, in the market of this car people prefer luxury over peroformance. Want performance u buy the IS300 or GS! That's y the ES is FWD and the others are not. Different people buy these cars
The ES300 used to be the best selling entry-level luxury car before the 2nd gen. TL started to appear. Now that the TL has taken the ES300/330's throne, and the G35 has received lots of spotlights. But the ES330 doesn't seem to receive much attention despite complete facelift and weak engine upgrade. I don't know if this tells something.
07-11-2004, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward
Even the upcoming 3.2L-V6 from Volks/Audi is rumoured to have 255 hps.
07-11-2004, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward
I always thought if people prefer luxury over performance, then they would buy the GS300/330 which is luxury, huge, and slow.
The ES300 used to be the best selling entry-level luxury car before the 2nd gen. TL started to appear. Now that the TL has taken the ES300/330's throne, and the G35 has received lots of spotlights. But the ES330 doesn't seem to receive much attention despite complete facelift and weak engine upgrade. I don't know if this tells something.
The ES300 used to be the best selling entry-level luxury car before the 2nd gen. TL started to appear. Now that the TL has taken the ES300/330's throne, and the G35 has received lots of spotlights. But the ES330 doesn't seem to receive much attention despite complete facelift and weak engine upgrade. I don't know if this tells something.
I dont think we'll see a GS330. Remember, the engine in the GS300 is an inline engine (cousin of the Supra engine). The 3.3 liter engine in the RX/ES is a V-config. engine.
07-12-2004, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Edward
I always thought if people prefer luxury over performance, then they would buy the GS300/330 which is luxury, huge, and slow.
The ES300 used to be the best selling entry-level luxury car before the 2nd gen. TL started to appear. Now that the TL has taken the ES300/330's throne, and the G35 has received lots of spotlights. But the ES330 doesn't seem to receive much attention despite complete facelift and weak engine upgrade. I don't know if this tells something.
The ES300 used to be the best selling entry-level luxury car before the 2nd gen. TL started to appear. Now that the TL has taken the ES300/330's throne, and the G35 has received lots of spotlights. But the ES330 doesn't seem to receive much attention despite complete facelift and weak engine upgrade. I don't know if this tells something.
07-12-2004, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Zoot
the GS is SUPPOSED to be sportier... And many of the old people prefer fwd which makes the ES better. All of the "snow birds" (old people who go back and forth between Florida and the north) like FWD for its practicality
07-12-2004, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward
I always thought if people prefer luxury over performance, then they would buy the GS300/330 which is luxury, huge, and slow.
The ES300 used to be the best selling entry-level luxury car before the 2nd gen. TL started to appear. Now that the TL has taken the ES300/330's throne, and the G35 has received lots of spotlights. But the ES330 doesn't seem to receive much attention despite complete facelift and weak engine upgrade. I don't know if this tells something.
The ES300 used to be the best selling entry-level luxury car before the 2nd gen. TL started to appear. Now that the TL has taken the ES300/330's throne, and the G35 has received lots of spotlights. But the ES330 doesn't seem to receive much attention despite complete facelift and weak engine upgrade. I don't know if this tells something.
ES 330 doesn't get attention as magazines are geared towards sports and sporty cars. The ES 330 doesn't need it anyway.
Seems all Lexi are moving to projector lamps. I never was big on ES 330 styling on the outside. The interior is plain ol
07-12-2004, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
The GS is not huge. It's shorter than a CL-S. Hell shorter than the new Altima, Maxima, 5, E, A6 and all cars in it's class.
ES 330 doesn't get attention as magazines are geared towards sports and sporty cars. The ES 330 doesn't need it anyway.
Seems all Lexi are moving to projector lamps. I never was big on ES 330 styling on the outside. The interior is plain ol
ES 330 doesn't get attention as magazines are geared towards sports and sporty cars. The ES 330 doesn't need it anyway.
Seems all Lexi are moving to projector lamps. I never was big on ES 330 styling on the outside. The interior is plain ol