Ferrari: Development and Technology News
12-06-2007, 01:22 PM
#44
The sizzle in the Steak
What's 9k...it's only money.
12-06-2007, 01:28 PM
#46
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And they said money can't buy happiness.
Fools.
Fools.
08-04-2008, 01:53 PM
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New Ferrari?
Update: The mysterious FerrarI we reported about late Friday has been spotted once again lapping Ferrari’s Fiorano test track in Maranello. The completely undisguised nature of the new model suggests that this is just a special one-off model designed for a private individual – similar to the P4/5 for James Glickenhaus back in 2006.
This latest model is rumored to be the work of Italian design house Fioravanti, a company now celebrating its 20th anniversary. Tell-tale features suggesting this is a Fioravanti are the sleek and dynamic sweeping lines that extend nearly the complete length of the car, as well as the rounded rear end.
Other differences made to the F430, on which this new custom work is based, include the addition of the 599 GTB’s single circular lighting units.
Original: A new Ferrari supercar has been spotted outside the carmaker’s factory in Maranello, leading to speculation that a new model could be in the works. The car’s mid-engine layout and similar proportions to the F430 could mean this is a test mule for the successor of the current supercar. However, the completed look of the new model suggests that it could be a new concept car or oven a custom coachbuilt model based on the F430.
Ferrari has confirmed that it plans a return to its coachbuilding heritage this year, and is already working closely with Italian design houses Fioravanti, Pininfarina and Zagato.
Other reports suggest the car is the new Ferrari F500, a 5.0L successor to the F430 that could appear as early as next year. According to AutoBild, Ferrari is planning to increase output to around 500hp to remain competitive with cars like the Porsche GT2 and even Nissan’s GT-R, which are beginning to encroach into exotic car territory with their performance levels.
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08-04-2008, 02:07 PM
#48
The sizzle in the Steak
link?
05-25-2009, 01:40 AM
#50
Senior Moderator
Ferrari: Development news **Driver Sensor (page 1)**
From Motor Authority...
http://www.motorauthority.com/ferrar...id-patent.html
Ferrari has been working on a proprietary part-time 4WD system designed for both its mid and front-engined models for the past several years, which the carmaker has christened ‘Insertable 4x4’. Not much has been seen or heard about the system for some time now but a quick search of the European Patent Office reveals that the Italian carmaker applied for a new patent back in February for a 4WD system with hybrid propulsion.
The actual filing, which you can view here, describes the system as being primarily intended to "improve the drivability of a sports car in conditions of poor grip," not necessarily to improve the vehicle's green status.
Ferrari’s design eliminates the associated heavy weight of 4WD vehicles by using two powerplants in the car – each to drive a separate pair of wheels – which in turn eliminates the need for heavy and bulky transfer cases and driveshafts. In all the designs, however, the engine is matched to an axle via a locking differential.
The design is similar to PSA Peugeot-Citroen’s hybrid system in that it separates the roles of the engine and electric motor. Furthermore, Ferrari has submitted six different layouts for the patent, with some of them calling for the electric motors to sit within the wheels instead of on a conventional axle.
When applied to one of Ferrari’s cars, the system will likely feature an on-off switch that will allow the driver to decide whether or not they want standard RWD or the added safety of 4WD. The system will also allow for electric only propulsion at slow speeds, which will vastly improve Ferrari’s carbon footprint and position in the eyes of environmentalists.
What wasn’t revealed was any possibly launch date for the system but given its advanced nature we don’t expect to see any 4WD hybrids for some time to come.
The actual filing, which you can view here, describes the system as being primarily intended to "improve the drivability of a sports car in conditions of poor grip," not necessarily to improve the vehicle's green status.
Ferrari’s design eliminates the associated heavy weight of 4WD vehicles by using two powerplants in the car – each to drive a separate pair of wheels – which in turn eliminates the need for heavy and bulky transfer cases and driveshafts. In all the designs, however, the engine is matched to an axle via a locking differential.
The design is similar to PSA Peugeot-Citroen’s hybrid system in that it separates the roles of the engine and electric motor. Furthermore, Ferrari has submitted six different layouts for the patent, with some of them calling for the electric motors to sit within the wheels instead of on a conventional axle.
When applied to one of Ferrari’s cars, the system will likely feature an on-off switch that will allow the driver to decide whether or not they want standard RWD or the added safety of 4WD. The system will also allow for electric only propulsion at slow speeds, which will vastly improve Ferrari’s carbon footprint and position in the eyes of environmentalists.
What wasn’t revealed was any possibly launch date for the system but given its advanced nature we don’t expect to see any 4WD hybrids for some time to come.
05-25-2009, 01:40 AM
#51
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05-25-2009, 01:17 PM
#53
Engineer
nothing new, all they need is something like 15-20% power on the front wheel to have the grip they need in poor weather conditions. Electric motors are a simple way of adding that without adding a constant drive train loss associated with a mechanical AWD system.
Honda had something similar on their Dualnote concept 8 or 9 years ago...
Honda had something similar on their Dualnote concept 8 or 9 years ago...
05-26-2009, 01:26 AM
#55
Chloe @ 17mo
05-29-2009, 08:17 PM
#56
Senior Moderator
Ferrari: Turbocharged V8 Engine news
Yow!
From Motor Authority...
From Motor Authority...
Earlier this week we saw leaked Ferrari patents for a new AWD hybrid system that were filed with the European Patent Office. Today, a new patent diagram for a turbocharged powerplant from the Italian carmaker has surfaced online, confirming that Ferrari is at least considering adopting more efficient technologies for its future models.
The image above shows the patent in all its glory, and according to Autocar other documents revealed a layout diagram for a turbocharged internal-combustion engine in a "V arrangement". While this could possibly be referring to a six-cylinder unit, the patent diagrams clearly shows a V8 engine - although we wouldn't consider this a death knell for a possible turbocharged V6 unit.
Rather than a large single turbo, the engine in the patent goes the BMW-route of two smaller turbochargers in order to reduce lag and provide an even power band. With the extra power from forced induction, the general idea behind the switch to turbo power will be to reduce displacement size and fuel usage while keeping power levels up - a strategy that has been successful for high-volume carmakers such as Volkswagen and to a lesser extent BMW.
While it may be strange to be reading about Ferraris with hybrid engines and turbochargers, the Prancing Horse was never going to be completely immune to the conditions of its time, and other supercar manufacturers will likely be following in Ferrari’s wake in the near future. Furthermore, one of Ferrari’s most admired cars, the legendary F40, was powered by a twin-turbocharged V6 developing up to 471hp (352kW) from its 3.0L of displacement.
The image above shows the patent in all its glory, and according to Autocar other documents revealed a layout diagram for a turbocharged internal-combustion engine in a "V arrangement". While this could possibly be referring to a six-cylinder unit, the patent diagrams clearly shows a V8 engine - although we wouldn't consider this a death knell for a possible turbocharged V6 unit.
Rather than a large single turbo, the engine in the patent goes the BMW-route of two smaller turbochargers in order to reduce lag and provide an even power band. With the extra power from forced induction, the general idea behind the switch to turbo power will be to reduce displacement size and fuel usage while keeping power levels up - a strategy that has been successful for high-volume carmakers such as Volkswagen and to a lesser extent BMW.
While it may be strange to be reading about Ferraris with hybrid engines and turbochargers, the Prancing Horse was never going to be completely immune to the conditions of its time, and other supercar manufacturers will likely be following in Ferrari’s wake in the near future. Furthermore, one of Ferrari’s most admired cars, the legendary F40, was powered by a twin-turbocharged V6 developing up to 471hp (352kW) from its 3.0L of displacement.
05-29-2009, 09:57 PM
#57
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Yummm.
The F40 was one greatest Ferraris IMO. That engine was a work of art.
The F40 was one greatest Ferraris IMO. That engine was a work of art.
05-30-2009, 03:02 AM
#59
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Furthermore, one of Ferrari’s most admired cars, the legendary F40, was powered by a twin-turbocharged V6 developing up to 471hp (352kW) from its 3.0L of displacement.
05-30-2009, 11:32 AM
#60
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Hahaha, I didnt even catch that. The 288 GTO it was based off of didnt have a V6 either.
05-30-2009, 10:16 PM
#62
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Most of the worlds best engines were (believe it or not) very small displacement V8s, 10s and 12s.
05-30-2009, 11:07 PM
#63
Burning Brakes
I think the engine displacement was due to the Group B racing class max engine size for turbocharged engines. This is also why the Porsche 959 had the same size engine.
While the F40 was a great car, I personally prefer the 288 GTO due to it's more classic, traditional styling.
While the F40 was a great car, I personally prefer the 288 GTO due to it's more classic, traditional styling.
05-31-2009, 11:31 PM
#65
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06-01-2009, 08:49 AM
#66
AZ Community Team
Perhaps they were thinking of the famous Ferrari F1 126C motor. A twin turbo 1.5L V6 that put out over 850HP in race boost/tune and 1000+HP in qualifying boost.
It was like the current BMW twin turbo that mounted the turbo's in the middle of the V.
It was like the current BMW twin turbo that mounted the turbo's in the middle of the V.
06-01-2009, 08:55 AM
#67
AZ Community Team
Was passed by one in Milan once, I was stuck driving a little Opel rental car in a traffic jam. I saw a red car a couple cars behind us with a high mounted wing but couldn't see what it was since it was so low. When the traffic jam cleared up, the F40 got into the left lane and passed a colleague and me by. I only briefly saw the clear louvered engine cover and the NACA scoops on the side. Those twin turbo's made a wonderful noise when they spooled up.
06-01-2009, 11:58 AM
#68
Senior Moderator
Seen a few F40's in Chicago over the years - and racing at Gingerman once - one of the greats for sure. I used to love the 288 but not as much anymore... it has not stood the sands of time well, imo. The F40 has.
06-01-2009, 12:13 PM
#69
AZ Community Team
I highly doubt it. I didn't know about this motor, that's crazy.
Seen a few F40's in Chicago over the years - and racing at Gingerman once - one of the greats for sure. I used to love the 288 but not as much anymore... it has not stood the sands of time well, imo. The F40 has.
Seen a few F40's in Chicago over the years - and racing at Gingerman once - one of the greats for sure. I used to love the 288 but not as much anymore... it has not stood the sands of time well, imo. The F40 has.
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic.p...m=5&carnum=168
It was designed with ground effects in mind so the sides of the motor were more streamlined for the ground effect tunnels.
Saw a few of the 126C cars in Detroit when they ran F1 races there in the early-mid 80's. It was hard to get the power down to the road with the limited speeds, large power, but the noise made by all those turbo F1 motors was something else
06-01-2009, 02:49 PM
#70
The F40 was always and still is one of my favorite Ferraris. The F50 and Enzo simply don't compare 
06-08-2009, 05:08 PM
#71
The sizzle in the Steak
Ferrari Hybrid to debut at LA Auto Show
A patent office leak recently revealed Ferrari’s hybrid plans, and it looks as though a Ferrari concept utilizing the green technology could surface by year’s end. Ferrari’s hybrid plans are part of the marque’s quest to greatly reduce its vehicle emissions by 2014.
Speaking with Car and Driver, Ferrari CEO Amedeo Felisa revealed a concept car using the company’s new hybrid system would bow at an upcoming auto show. Felisa ruled out this September’s Frankfurt Motor Show, but said the concept would debut “shortly thereafter, probably at an American show.”
A quick glance at the auto show calendar reveals Los Angeles’ November show as the likely candidate – especially considering Ferrari doesn’t plan on attending January’s Detroit Auto Show.
It remains unclear what car Ferrari will use to showcase its hybrid drivetrain system, but the green tech will likely mirror that outlined in the leaked patent drawings. The leaked drawings revealed an all-wheel drive hybrid system, powered by lithium-ion batteries.
Speaking with Car and Driver, Ferrari CEO Amedeo Felisa revealed a concept car using the company’s new hybrid system would bow at an upcoming auto show. Felisa ruled out this September’s Frankfurt Motor Show, but said the concept would debut “shortly thereafter, probably at an American show.”
A quick glance at the auto show calendar reveals Los Angeles’ November show as the likely candidate – especially considering Ferrari doesn’t plan on attending January’s Detroit Auto Show.
It remains unclear what car Ferrari will use to showcase its hybrid drivetrain system, but the green tech will likely mirror that outlined in the leaked patent drawings. The leaked drawings revealed an all-wheel drive hybrid system, powered by lithium-ion batteries.
I wonder what model it will be...or will it be an entirely new concept?
04-21-2010, 09:41 AM
#73
Ferrari: 6 New Models Announced
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/249009/
Ferrari has revealed it will produce six new models before 2013 as part of Fiat's restructuring plans announced today, including a new Enzo hypercar and a hardcore version of the 458.
First up will be a open-top Spider variant of the 458 that's due in 2011. Also penciled in for launch next year will be an all-new version of the range-topping, V12-powered 612 Scaglietti, a car that is also likely to spawn Ferrari's first ever hybrid variant.
Ferrari revealed a hybrid 599 at the Geneva motor show, although the 612 is more likely Ferrari V12 to get hybrid tech as it would be easier to package in the four-seater. However, the system is not an F1-style KERS system that had been expected to make production in its road cars.
The new 612 has been codenamed F151, although what name it will take for production isn't yet clear.
In 2012 Ferrari will launch a new version of its halo Enzo hypercar. Just 400 Enzos were produced between 2002 and 2004 and the new model is likely to be powered by either a direct-injection twin-turbo V8 or a direct-injection twin-turbo V6, as revealed by Autocar in 2008.
It’s expected the next Enzo will be also be a flagship for Ferrari’s new-generation aerodynamic technology, including ‘active aerodynamics’ that pump air out through the body to influence the way airflows over and under the skin.
Another car due in 2012 is an all-new version of the 599 GTB Fiorano, currently known as F152.
A major facelift of the California will be launched in 2013; this is currently known as the California M. The final new model revealed by Ferrari today is a hardcore version of the 458, which should take the Scuderia name of its 430 predecessor and be launched in 2013.
Ferrari has also said it wants to keep the differentiation between its sports cars and its grand tourers, ensuring there won't be any crossover between the 458 and 599 supercars and the 612 and California cruisers.
The firm will not make any more than four standard production models, meaning its range will stay as 458, 599, 612 and California. The Enzo is considered as a special model, and not part of its standard range.
Ferrari has revealed it will produce six new models before 2013 as part of Fiat's restructuring plans announced today, including a new Enzo hypercar and a hardcore version of the 458.
First up will be a open-top Spider variant of the 458 that's due in 2011. Also penciled in for launch next year will be an all-new version of the range-topping, V12-powered 612 Scaglietti, a car that is also likely to spawn Ferrari's first ever hybrid variant.
Ferrari revealed a hybrid 599 at the Geneva motor show, although the 612 is more likely Ferrari V12 to get hybrid tech as it would be easier to package in the four-seater. However, the system is not an F1-style KERS system that had been expected to make production in its road cars.
The new 612 has been codenamed F151, although what name it will take for production isn't yet clear.
In 2012 Ferrari will launch a new version of its halo Enzo hypercar. Just 400 Enzos were produced between 2002 and 2004 and the new model is likely to be powered by either a direct-injection twin-turbo V8 or a direct-injection twin-turbo V6, as revealed by Autocar in 2008.
It’s expected the next Enzo will be also be a flagship for Ferrari’s new-generation aerodynamic technology, including ‘active aerodynamics’ that pump air out through the body to influence the way airflows over and under the skin.
Another car due in 2012 is an all-new version of the 599 GTB Fiorano, currently known as F152.
A major facelift of the California will be launched in 2013; this is currently known as the California M. The final new model revealed by Ferrari today is a hardcore version of the 458, which should take the Scuderia name of its 430 predecessor and be launched in 2013.
Ferrari has also said it wants to keep the differentiation between its sports cars and its grand tourers, ensuring there won't be any crossover between the 458 and 599 supercars and the 612 and California cruisers.
The firm will not make any more than four standard production models, meaning its range will stay as 458, 599, 612 and California. The Enzo is considered as a special model, and not part of its standard range.
04-21-2010, 11:49 AM
#74
אני עומד עם ישראל
Nice, now if only I could win the lottery to afford one of these vehicles.
04-21-2010, 12:27 PM
#75
Senior Moderator
^ 
04-21-2010, 12:42 PM
#76
Suzuka Master
To be honest, i find myself not that excited for the 458... I really love Ferrari and I really wish to own one, one of these days. And don't get me wrong the 458 is insanely quick and just a marvelous car, but for some reason the looks just dont cut it for me 
In that case I would still take the F430 over it. I dont care that its slower either since it is fast enough.
I'm pretty excited about the next Enzo successor, I hope they make it quick enough to destroy pretty much everything else out there on a track.
In that case I would still take the F430 over it. I dont care that its slower either since it is fast enough.
I'm pretty excited about the next Enzo successor, I hope they make it quick enough to destroy pretty much everything else out there on a track.
04-21-2010, 12:43 PM
#77
Fahrvergnügen'd
Some cars like the 911 Turbo are totally out of the average person's price range when they debut but at some point it becomes possible for a successful "average" Joe to buy one and actually afford to maintain use it.
Ferraris are just so nutso that even if you could afford to buy a 30-year old 328, most of us would go broke trying to service them.
Which is sad because I love Ferraris/Lambos/Astons, etc.
04-21-2010, 01:24 PM
#79
What's really impressive with Ferrari is that they can still afford to develop such amazing technology, given the relatively small number of cars built. They have to charge a high price per car to cover the develop costs.
Equally impressive is their philosophy. They can build cars of all variants, but still deliver the Ferrari driving experience. Everything from the Enzo to the California is distinctive...not to mention the amazing designs and quality of both the exterior and the interior.
Equally impressive is their philosophy. They can build cars of all variants, but still deliver the Ferrari driving experience. Everything from the Enzo to the California is distinctive...not to mention the amazing designs and quality of both the exterior and the interior.
04-21-2010, 02:26 PM
#80