Cadillac: XLR news **Production to End (page 3)**
#121
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Thats a drag.
#123
Three Wheelin'
It was hard selling the XLR to would-be MB SL owners when it still had the old CTS interior...but what a beautiful car and killer engines it had...
Hopefully it'll return in some fashion when the market picks up...
...years from now...
...as probably some hybrid concoction...
Hopefully it'll return in some fashion when the market picks up...
...years from now...
...as probably some hybrid concoction...
#124
still a Masshole
I believe the coupe/roadster void will be filled by a CTS coupe, at a lower price obviously. Should be interesting especially given the coupe concept recently unveiled at NAIAS.
#125
The XLR wasn't a bad car, but the price didn't match performance (relative to it's competitors) and I think the looks were a little too much. Or too little. However you look at it.
Oh well.
Oh well.
#126
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https://jalopnik.com/man-gets-stuck-...ter-1829008202
Late last month, a 75-year-old Cleveland man got stuck in his hot Cadillac XLR for 14 hours after an issue with the car’s electrical system rendered the power door release buttons useless. The ordeal had the man convinced he was going to die, the Washington Post reports.
“I accepted, at some point, that this is how I’m going to die,” Peter Pyros told the news site about the nearly 14 hours he was stuck in his 2006 Cadillac XLR, a vehicle that uses electric switches to open doors instead of mechanical releases used in most cars. The story goes on to describe how Pyros wound up in that situation in the first place:
With the door handles not working, the windows not rolling down, and the power top also not retracting, Pyros tried breaking out the car’s glass, and he yelled out for help as the heat inside made him sweat profusely and pass out multiple times. The Washington Post paints the gloomy scene:
Eventually, after over half a day, a neighbor heard Pyros’ screams, found the man in the car, and called police. Firefighters asked Pyros to pop the hood so they could power up the battery, and with juice in the battery, the electric door switches worked, and Pyros was free. He was treated at a local hospital and released.
If it’s still not entirely clear what’s going on here, have a look at the video above showing how the door mechanism works on a Cadillac XLR. It functions in much the same way as a Chevrolet Corvette’s setup: There’s a small button on the door that actuates the latch release mechanism on the B-pillar, releasing the door. Without power, that electric button does not work, and the door does not open.
But, as the Detroit Free Press points out in its story on Pyros, the vehicle owner’s manual shows the location of a cable-based, mechanical door release, which can be used in case the electric switch doesn’t function. The video below shows where the door release is on a Chevrolet Corvette; it’s in a similar position in Pyros’ Cadillac.
But the Detroit Free Press reports that Pyros didn’t know about this safety release, and he didn’t have his owner’s manual on him. Even if he had, the news site writes, Pyros’ lawyers think that page in the manual is insufficient, and they’re looking at ways to take this matter to court.
The Detroit Free Press quotes a GM spokesperson, who says the company provides ways to manually open doors, but it’s not always the same on all vehicles. He goes on:
This isn’t the first time this design has been under fire, as back in 2015, we wrote about a 72 year-old man and his dog dying after being unable to open their Corvette’s door.
But other systems have also caused confusion. Back in 2014, a couple got stuck in a Mazda3 with electric locks because they apparently didn’t know they could manually operate the locks by yanking the handle twice.
There are a few takeaways here. People should read their owner’s manuals, or at least keep them in their cars. Dealers should explain key safety features like this when they sell the vehicles. And automakers should probably try to make stuff as intuitive as possible (this applies for pretty much all features), especially when their clients tend to be old folks (Corvette owners, Cadillac owners).
I’m all for innovation, but folks shouldn’t be getting stuck in their cars.
“I accepted, at some point, that this is how I’m going to die,” Peter Pyros told the news site about the nearly 14 hours he was stuck in his 2006 Cadillac XLR, a vehicle that uses electric switches to open doors instead of mechanical releases used in most cars. The story goes on to describe how Pyros wound up in that situation in the first place:
He said he went out to his garage to start the car about 10 a.m. Aug. 31, then planned to walk back in the house and change clothes before taking it for a spin. He didn’t take his cellphone with him, he said, and he didn’t tell anyone what he was doing. He didn’t think he needed to.
Pyros said he tried to start the engine but nothing happened. Then, he said, he tried to open the doors and realized they wouldn’t budge.
Pyros said he tried to start the engine but nothing happened. Then, he said, he tried to open the doors and realized they wouldn’t budge.
Each time he woke up, he said, he thought to himself, “I can’t believe I’m in this situation.” He was a 75-year-old man locked inside his own car, pleading, passing out and when he needed to, urinating inside his shoes.
If it’s still not entirely clear what’s going on here, have a look at the video above showing how the door mechanism works on a Cadillac XLR. It functions in much the same way as a Chevrolet Corvette’s setup: There’s a small button on the door that actuates the latch release mechanism on the B-pillar, releasing the door. Without power, that electric button does not work, and the door does not open.
But, as the Detroit Free Press points out in its story on Pyros, the vehicle owner’s manual shows the location of a cable-based, mechanical door release, which can be used in case the electric switch doesn’t function. The video below shows where the door release is on a Chevrolet Corvette; it’s in a similar position in Pyros’ Cadillac.
But the Detroit Free Press reports that Pyros didn’t know about this safety release, and he didn’t have his owner’s manual on him. Even if he had, the news site writes, Pyros’ lawyers think that page in the manual is insufficient, and they’re looking at ways to take this matter to court.
The Detroit Free Press quotes a GM spokesperson, who says the company provides ways to manually open doors, but it’s not always the same on all vehicles. He goes on:
“Because this varies by make and model, drivers should review the door lock section of their owner’s manual, and follow up with their dealer or customer assistance center if they have any questions,” GM spokesman Tom Wilkinson wrote in an email to the Free Press.
But other systems have also caused confusion. Back in 2014, a couple got stuck in a Mazda3 with electric locks because they apparently didn’t know they could manually operate the locks by yanking the handle twice.
There are a few takeaways here. People should read their owner’s manuals, or at least keep them in their cars. Dealers should explain key safety features like this when they sell the vehicles. And automakers should probably try to make stuff as intuitive as possible (this applies for pretty much all features), especially when their clients tend to be old folks (Corvette owners, Cadillac owners).
I’m all for innovation, but folks shouldn’t be getting stuck in their cars.
#127
Team Owner
Dumbass
#128
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As I was reading the article, I was wondering if the XLR has the same manual door releases that the Vette has. Clearly, he wasn't fully knowledgeable on the car. Also, surely there would be something in the car that he could've broken a window with? Replacing a piece of glass is better than dying
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A cow-orker just bought a late model XLR.
Not being the brightest bulb in the crayon box, I'm sure it's just a matter of time until this happens.
Not being the brightest bulb in the crayon box, I'm sure it's just a matter of time until this happens.
#130
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As I was reading the article, I was wondering if the XLR has the same manual door releases that the Vette has. Clearly, he wasn't fully knowledgeable on the car. Also, surely there would be something in the car that he could've broken a window with? Replacing a piece of glass is better than dying
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That's a cow-orker.
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Will she eventually implode on herself from being too dense?
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No. Fuck Taco, keep up.
Lock self in car and suffocate to death.
Lock self in car and suffocate to death.
#135
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shit’s moving too quick!
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