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Old 10-25-2009, 05:09 PM
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DIY: MDX, Pilot, Odyssey spacer install

What u need from the dealer:
Intake manifold spacer, part number 17108-PGK-A00
Intake manifold gasket, part number 17105-P8E-A01 (or reuse ur old one if u have the p2r thermo spacer(
9 extedned bolts, part number 95701-08105-08

What u need to do the job
Ratchet
8 mm socket
10 mm socket
12mm socket
Screw drivers (+)(-)
Pliers
Dremel, cut off wheel
Safety glasses
mask or face shield
a rag or two
spacers (i used nuts)

1. take out these 4 bolts (10mm)


2. take off these 3 hoses and the one sensor


3. take out the bolt (10mm) and the cable


4. take off the intake (cl-s6 intake)


5.take off 3 sensors, two screws, hose, and the cables


6. take off the throttle body coolant hoses (a good time to do the bypass mod, search for it)


7. take off the 8 bolts and 2 nuts (10mm)


8. take out the 7 bolts and 2 nuts (12mm)


9. should look like this (thermo spacer on)


10. height comparison


11. take out the two studs with vise grips


12. put spacer on


13. put gasket on


14. put bolts in, do it by hand, leave the first few bolts loose so u can move the intake manifold around a bit.


15. tighten all bolts. think it was like 18 ft lbs. i did it by feel and its all good (been doing this a long time)

16. how it should look like


17. now, the imrc cable hooks on here, pull it out of the hook


18. attach the cable and bolt in the bolt (10mm)


19. ur gonna need to put the wires that come out form this sensor. all u need is about half an inch, no harm done


20. hook up the other 3 hoses and place clamps in place


21. hook up the two sensor and the coolant lines (not sure if u need to extend them)


22.hook up the sensor, hose, cables and screw in the two screws that hold the cables in place


23. bolt down top cover (10mm bolts and nuts)


24. put intake back on


CUTTING THE HOOD
1. safety first, use a cut off wheel if u have the oem hood


2. i cut the brace but still needed more room


3. what i had to cut out



4. unbolt the bottom bolt and loosed the top bolt. put in two nuts on the on the bottom between the hood and hinge. hand tighten bottom bolt and take off top bolt. place one nut on the top screw. tighten it down, and do the same to the other side


end results




u get about a finger gap toward teh back.

i plan to take a piece of CF and cover the sides so it looks like a cowl hood.
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How much space would say you needed to create between the IM & hood?

Nice write up, thanks.
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well. from intake manifold cover to hood with the thermo gasket, i have 1 1/2" with out the thermo spacer about 1 3/4". the spacer is almost 1 3/4" tall.
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Nice write up. Now we need a hood bulge for those of us who don't want a raised hood. Rajca can you feel any gains from this? I imagine heat soak takes a lot longer to set in too.
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i feel the gain. my tires break loose in 1st at any mph, never did that before, and i feel more power at higher rpm. when i save enough money for a clutch and 105k service, ill do a before and after dyno
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Originally Posted by Rajca
i feel the gain. my tires break loose in 1st at any mph, never did that before, and i feel more power at higher rpm. when i save enough money for a clutch and 105k service, ill do a before and after dyno
Nice

Yep, these engines love more air. It was the same for mine when I bored out the intake and throttle bodies.

Can't wait to see the dynos.

Ruf
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Great write up!
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nicely done..

im new to the j-series game, so call me a but whats the IMRC?
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intake manifold runner control. the first gen cl's dont have that.
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why don't you have headers? Looks like you are into performnance and I would guess that is one of the mods that gives the most gains.
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That is because I have a turbo setup in my garage. So buying headers for a few month and selling them, losing money. I don't plan on driving my cl during the winter so headers will give me no use
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What's with the fitment of the j-series engines now?

j series integra swap - hood doesn't fit
j series civic swap - hood doesn't fit
Acura CL with mdx spacer now doesn't exactly fit...

It's time for some aftermarket cowl hoods for everyone now
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Originally Posted by CLsuperhero
It's time for some aftermarket cowl hoods for everyone now
If you wanna go faster, you gotta pay the price.

Nice writeup btw.
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Yeah looks real ghetto like that.
On my car the thermoblok spacer & the p2r plenums just barley clear. The edges rub against the hood pad.
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The plenums would get in the way. The intake manifold cover rubs a tad bit. Saw some of the paint come off tis morning. But no marks on the hood. It might have been from me pressing on the hood to see how much clearance I got. I dought that its from the engine rocking.
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Can you mod a fiberglass hood? Make your own raised section.
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I dont see why not, but a cowl hood on the CL would really throw the lines off
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I dont see why not, but a cowl hood on the CL would really throw the lines off
at this point it is necessary
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A small cowl wouldn't look bad
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Rajca i like the mods your doing with your car, but i am not a fan with the raised hood. You should think about trying to find a bigger one
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or just try to customize the one you already have..

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Originally Posted by Jacobpockros
or just try to customize the one you already have..
Rajca, if you cut that CF hood you're dead to me
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wasn't there a guy from back in 2006 who had a Black CL, some Axis wheels and some engine work, he modded the hood at a shop, looked pretty sick. I think he had axis 5 spoke chrome wheels that are now discontinued.
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will not cut hood, will add cf sheet to the sides to fill the gap. but did the guy have a cf hood. if i have the oem hood i would have made a cowl induction like hood.
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I don't understanding is this spacer for looks or extra HP because we've dynoed 2 cars with and w/o this spacer and we LOST POWER!

If you found out some we didn't plz inform me
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I feel the extra power. Read one of my aboce statements. I will do a before and after dyno. p2r ia telling ppl they with pnp intake manifold, runners, and the spacer they lost power, but that with the 3rd gen engines.
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Sean @ P2R told me it would not be beneficial on my gen2 3.2.

Not arguing that you see gains, just saying what he told me. I'd have done it when I did my thermal gaskets over a year ago before headers/CAI/09IM.
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That spacer is ridic! Great write-up Tom!
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
Sean @ P2R told me it would not be beneficial on my gen2 3.2.

Not arguing that you see gains, just saying what he told me. I'd have done it when I did my thermal gaskets over a year ago before headers/CAI/09IM.
so u did it? or is their a type-o?
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He said he would have done it when he did the thermo gaskets before everything else, but he didnt.
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ahhhh, ok
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civicdrivr- can u measure the height of ur 09 IM. please



heres some more info,

outside temp. 65deg.
runner temp. 168deg
thermo spacer installed
spacer temp. 96deg
intake plenums temp. 83deg
intake top cover temp. 90deg

it actually felt cold. hr drive home, 80mph on highway, and about 15min in stop and go traffic. never felt like that. ill try to drive my tl somehow (zip tie the bumper on so it doesnt fly off) and measure the temps. im a believer of the termo spacer and spacer, along with lifting the hood to keep engine cool.

and tb temp was 72deg
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Yea, Ill try to measure it when I get home from work. Ill also take some temps.
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wow, really cool. How much was final cost?
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$50 for spacer, $15 for bolts. So cost me $65. But I had the thermo spacer for a while now. But another $12 for a gasket and u can do the same
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Can you do this mod with (NEW)factory gaskets to save some clearance ?
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Yes u can. Save about 1/4"
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Trying to find the cheapest prices right now shipped.
I think this would work pretty well on a clp,due to shorter manifold,no p2r gasket and little hood work.might be a decent looking fit.

Has anyone tryed milling some off the manifold top plate to help with clearance ?


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