FLYGUY31

Acura replacing the ILX. Interesting.

a35tl

That's disappointing. I would think that a 2nd generation ILX based on the '16 Civic platform would have been a winning combination. I think Acura could have made a hot entry level car with that platform to build upon and a 2.0 turbo engine under the hood. My 2 cents.

kurtatx

ILX was an unmitigated disaster. This is surprisingly forward thinking for Acura.

hadokenuh

Not sure how accurate is the news but it's certainly disappointing. IMO, the main problem of the current ILX is NVM, or the lack of. Really bad, even for an entry level model of a near luxury brand.

kurtatx

Tolerance for badge engineering is waning unless it's done really, really well. The Accord is a great car and its upscale partner (TLX) sells well because of that solid foundation and size.

The Civic is a great car as well, but the ILX is simply too small and cuts too many corners to be considered a good car.

dezymond

Can't say I'll miss it. Driven many different years of the ILX and just don't like it (had alot of loaner ILX). It's small, cramped, loud, and just doesn't feel like it should have the Acura badge on it. The latest one I drove was a 2017 and it was not a very nice ride at all. It's a pretty good looking vehicle, but that's all it has going for it imo.

FLYGUY31

I had one as a loaner and couldn't believe how poor the ride quality was. I was shocked. I think this is a good sign that Acura is making changes.

F23A4

After attending an Acura ILX event several years ago,I figured that the ILX wouldn’t go over too well in the states. It didn’t help that it debuted with only one solid but two awful powertrains. Subbing in the base TLX powertrain for its MMC was an exercise in ‘too little too late’ at best.

That said, was there ever that much clamoring among American Acura buyers for an Acura EL or CSX, that the ILX was a good decision? If anything, I just wanted to see further development of the 1G TSX.

BEAR-AvHistory

Some magazine articles saying get the CIVIC after two car compares did not help either.

justnspace

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I think this has ALWAYS been the case for Honda/Acura.
always eating into each others sales.
probably has to do with acura not distancing themselves far enough away from honda

BC01191980

Don’t forget most people are buying suvs

small sedans aren't doing well anyway

I recall looking at the ILX in 2012 but ended up getting a civic

MSZ

They are bringing in the CDX, but I don't think they're going to import them from the Chinese plant, so they need to kill off one of the non-selling domestic models to give room for a new assembly line in the US/Mexico.

WheelMcCoy

I won't miss the ILX. I drove a first gen ILX as a loaner and it confirmed to me that the TSX was the better entry level vehicle. Now the question is how will an entry level Acura EV be received? I'm sure Acura will leverage the NSX-2 hybrid technology as a selling point, but despite that, Acura doesn't have name recognition in the EV space.

But, the name EV-ILX is a pretty bad-ass starting point.

thoiboi

good riddance.

Why buy an ILX when you can buy a Civic for cheaper

financedude

Same reason Lexus got rid of the CT200h. The fit and finish noise, etc, were NOT up to Lexus standards. The salesman I talked to said they HATED selling the car....lol

losiglow

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I don't know much about the ILX, but I'm interested in seeing the new EV Acura will put out. I'm thinking my next car might be an EV. Getting tired of internal combustion.

financedude

They need to do more of that. NSX is fun but at $150,000, very limited market. Forget about the ILX. Glad they got rid of the RL, sales were dropping off a cliff. I am disappointed Acura went smaller with the TLX than the TL. I admit, I miss the TSX wagon. I know "noone" wants a wagon, but Subaru seems to sell a couple here and there. a TSX wagon with SH-AWD and a turbo 4 would be the bomb! People can laugh all they want at Hyundai, the new Genesis line is killer and the Kia Stinger coming out? I want one already....lol
I think Toyota has it figured out, there are CLEAR differences between the Highlander and RX-350 for example. Once Rx350 gets the 3rd row seat, they become that much more desirable, I really think my wife would have gotten an RX350 if it had 3rd row seat, it was that important to her.....

CheeseyPoofs McNut

No surprise. At the price point they needed/wanted to sell it at it made no sense for anyone to purchase one. It was nice looking though IMO.

So it's the RLX and TLX going forward for Acura WRT sedans eh? Given the weakness of the RLX I imagine/hope they're going to pump a lot of resources into the next gen TLX.

financedude

How is the TLX for size? I drive a Hyundai Azera as a daily driver, and when I pulled up next to one at the convenience store it looked pretty small on the outside?

CheeseyPoofs McNut

It's a little smaller than the Accord on the inside. I prefer it actually as it gives more of a cockpit type feel than the wide open Accord. The back is adequate for most average sized adults. Frankly I rarely have people in the back other than the grand-kids so it's never been an issue for me.

losiglow

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Yeah, Subaru sells a few. There's one in every 3rd driveway here in Utah I'd totally sport a luxury wagon.

GhostTL09

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The TLX is a smaller feel inside in my opinion but I could be wrong. But I'd also been driving a 4G for the last couple years so that dwarfs it. I never liked the ILX and it had no place. Just looks silly in the front and low end, not premium at all.

financedude

Like the stealerships always say: "There's a butt for every seat". The car looks really nice, IMO.

kurtatx

They should probably dump the RLX and focus on a performance model of the TLX.

pyrodan007

I would hope that the 2019 TLX has more interesting changes than just color. If Infiniti can introduce new engines in between MMC, pretty sure Acura can too. Acura's sedan lineup is dying a slow death.

BC01191980

There are too many car choices now. Car companies should consolidate to the market. For luxury cars there should be a midsize sedan, small crossover, compact crossover, and SUV. Acura can do well with the TLX, CDX, RDX, MDX.

kurtatx

Add performance models and you're probably good.

spoiler900

I work as a salesman at a dealership. The ILX is a TOTAL DISASTER. We can barely give those things away. We sell 80% RDX/MDX and 15% TLX so about 5% ILX. No one comes in asking about an ILX. Its disappointing

As far as this video THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FROM ACURA THIS IS TRUE. I wouldn't be surprised if they kill the ILX after model year 18 but a full electric car we know nothing of

kurtatx

^what about RLX?

BC01191980

yes they can add different trims

car business is full of upselling

i am not a fan of the new grill so I ordered the a5 sb

Saintor

Like the RLX It was already feeling old right from the start . It needed to be bolder.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

I think the refresh looks much better. I actually like it. But - unless they market the Sport Hybrid model the right way it won't matter as it's not on the radar for people in the market in that price range.

txl2017

I am thinking Acura doesn’t have the power of a dazzling brand name yet to convince people that as long as the brand is carried, a small car still counts. Like what you see in the German luxury brands. They are rolling out smaller and smaller models just so people who want to carry the badge can afford to buy one.

justnspace

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they had the brand cachet in 2005. 2005 to about 2008, they SOLD TONS of TL's.
Except they couldnt carry that momentum over to the newer styled acura's...one bad decision after another and this is the state we are in NOW.
again, they could have had the market in 2010+, BUT they keep fucking up.

and you know what happens to businesses that make bad business decisions, right???

anyone remember AOL?
Sears/kmart?

Civic2TSX

I don't think they will kill the ILX until 2020/2021. This EV isn't even expected to begin production until 2021! But then again, if a 2G comes out next year or 2019, then that wouldn't leave a full run of 4-5 model years for a generation.

financedude

My daily driver is a 2014 Hyundai Azera Limited. It is loaded like an Acura, power sunshade, panoramic roof, memory seats, heated and cooled seats, etc. But it is a Hyundai, NOT an Acura. After 2 Accords, I was looking to try something else, as Accord went smaller in 2013, I had a 2011 I gave to my son. I typically buy 3 year old off lease cars because I drive a lot of miles. I drove Optima and Sonata, both have become very nice cars, and cheaper than buying a Toyota or Honda. Then I stumbled upon an off lease Azera, 26,000 miles. It was just under $40K brand new. I was able to buy it for $18,500 +tax. Hyundai still struggles with resale, IMO. However, I got a bigger car, V-6, loaded, for $2500 less than an Accord of the same year and miles. I think Toyota, Honda, Nissan, even the import brands better not sleep on Hyundai and Kia. I drove a new Genesis G80, it is as nice as any Acura or Lexus I have driven. They are not there yet as far as brand recognition, nameplate prestige, but they are committed. Now that Genesis is spun off as a separate brand I think they will get even better. All it will do is force Acura and Lexus and others to keep delivering good cars.........

FLYGUY31

My 8 yr old TSX rides so much better than a new ILX. Acura needs to get it's shit together and come out with a stunning, new, updated TLX with all the tech, engines, transmitions that are popular today. The RDX already is a top performer..they need a hot new car, like the TL was in the mid 2000's to regain some traction. Right now they are falling behind big time. Just looking at the interior of the current TLX shows how far behind they are. The Aspec is not a bad looking car..but it's held back by outdated tech, no turbo, and a shitty tranny.

justnspace

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^they have been falling behind for 10 straight years now.

kurtatx

And the timing of some of these bad decisions have been terrible. While companies were moving to smaller engines and more distinct platforms, Acura was putting hideous beats on the front of their vehicles, falling behind on tech, and re-upping on the badge engineering. They killed a TSX which, while not perfect, was quite a bit close to the entry level offerings from Infiniti and Lexus. In its place, they put the worst badge engineered vehicle since the Pontiac G5.

justnspace

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another bad decision was Honda Japan FORCING Acura to sell the RLX in the states.
want to see another fuck up? pricing! sure, let's price the NSX near a McLaren

All these bad decisions are forcing Acura to back track/back pedal.
Not a good sign for the brand.