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Old 07-30-2014, 01:29 PM
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The Crazy Chicken AKA El Pollo Loco

Anyone have an opinion on El Pollo Loco? It IPO this week.



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Old 07-30-2014, 03:40 PM
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They're everywhere down here.... That's all I know
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They're everywhere here (Cali) too.

As of March 26, 2014, they only had 401 restaurants (168 company owned, 233 franchised) in 5 states (California, Nevada, Texas, Utah, and Arizona). 352 stores (88%) are in California alone. So there's growth potential, which is what people buying the stock are hoping for.

Considering where stock price is at now ($34.56), they severely under priced their IPO. And since they're using proceeds to pay off debt ($288.8 million), it can be said that they screwed up and missed out on a lot of money to pay off debt. They sold 7,142,857 shares at $15, raising $107,142,855

If they sold the 7,142,857 shares at $20 instead, they would have raised $142,857,140 (an extra $35,714,285)

If they sold the 7,142,857 shares at $25, they would have raised $178,571,425 (an extra $71,428,570)


Positives (+) and negatives (-) ?

+ Plan to grow stores 8%-10% annually (they think they can grow to 2,300 stores nationwide)
+ Had positive store comps during past 11 quarters
+ Had profit of $5.470 million ($0.19 EPS) during 13 weeks ended March 26, 2014 vs loss of $60,000 during 13 weeks ended March 27, 2013 ($0.00 EPS)

- Store comps have been flat to declining YoY over the past 5 quarters
  • Q1 2014 vs Q1 2013: 7.2% vs 8.5%
  • Q4 2013 vs Q4 2012: 6.5% vs 8.6%
  • Q3 2013 vs Q3 2012: 3.7% vs 12%
  • Q2 2013 vs Q2 2012: 9.6% vs 9.5%
  • Q1 2013 vs Q1 2012: 8.5% vs 9.5%
  • Q4 2012 vs Q4 2011: 8.6% vs 6.2%
- Has $288.8 million in debt
- Slow store growth and zero expansion outside of core/existing markets
> Only opened 7 stores (5 franchised) in 2013
> Plans to only open up to 16 stores (8-10 company, 4-6 franchise) in 2014.... below 8%-10% store grow plan
> It's being said they're having a hard time find people willing to franchise
- Hasn't been profitable in past 7 years (straight)
  • 2013: net losses of $16.873 million or -$0.59 EPS (80% of revenue in 2013 came from sales in Los Angeles area)
  • 2012: net loss of $7.865 million or -$0.27 EPS
  • 2011: net loss of $32.471 million or -$1.35 EPS
- Thinks its main competitor is Chipotle
- Tried to expand east in 2009 by opening 12 locations, all of which closed in 2012
- Chicken competitor PLKI (Popeye's) has much better sales and growth
- 79% of stock (28,557,989 shares) are held by 2 private equity firms; If/when they decide to sell...



All of this can be found in their IPO filing --> http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...tm#rom714963_5
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I dont like eating there, dunno who does.
Old 08-03-2014, 12:30 AM
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Grilled chicken with Mexican sides. More healthy than Popeyes and KFC IMHO. We get it carry out. Might be worth a shot but retail food has been having problems making money.
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bought some Friday at 39.87
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dude i love el pollo loco!
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Is this a west coast thing? Never seen one of these places.
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Originally Posted by imj0257
Is this a west coast thing? Never seen one of these places.
Mostly a California thing, but there are some in Texas (where you seem to be) too.

http://www.yellowpages.com/tx/el-pol...20pollo%20loco

Near you (DFW). Definitely worth checking out.

- 2903 Lombardy Ln Dallas, TX 75220
- 1511 NW 28th St Fort Worth, TX 76164


New locations opening by end of year:

- 4528 Hwy. 6 South, Sugar Land, TX 77478 (opening in October)
- Highway 6 and West Road in Copperfield
- FM 1960 and Whitaker Road in Humble
- South Mason Road and Provincial Boulevard in Katy
- Kuykendahl and Springbrook Garden Lane
Old 08-18-2014, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
dude i love el pollo loco!
Really??

The few times i've been the flavor in the food is so bland.
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- 4528 Hwy. 6 South, Sugar Land, TX 77478 (opening in October)

this is right behind my house.
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Chipotle is testing out its new Asian restaurant. I think chipotle is the restaurant stock to buy. If this new one kicks off like Chipotle did, the stock will for sure go up.
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
Chipotle is testing out its new Asian restaurant. I think chipotle is the restaurant stock to buy. If this new one kicks off like Chipotle did, the stock will for sure go up.
Only if they use locally sourced cats.
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Old 08-18-2014, 01:52 PM
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If the food is going to be anything like the menu at Panda Express. No thank you.
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
Really??

The few times i've been the flavor in the food is so bland.


The few times I went the meat had flavor :gheylaugh:
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
Really??

The few times i've been the flavor in the food is so bland.
I remember them being O.K in the past. Nothing to brag about but the last few times I been there, its been pretty tasty. They must of been adding something new. The salsa is also good.
Old 08-19-2014, 01:25 PM
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$30.07 - Down $3.13 (9.43%)
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After Hours : $36.70- Up $1.91 (5.49%)


Q2 2014:

- $0.21 EPS or $6.6 million vs estimates of $0.16 EPS
- revenue of $86.9 million (up 6% from $81.7 million year over year) vs estimates of $86.4 million
- 5.4% store comps, down from 9.6% a year ago and down from 7.2% in last quarter


FY 2014 guidance:

- 5.5% to 6% comps
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After Hours: $25.09 - Up $1.09 (4.54%)

Still down almost 40% from highs though.

Business and expansion seems to be improving.

- Reported Q4 GAAP earnings of $0.12 per share ($4.6 million) compared to a loss of $0.63 per share (loss of $18.1 million) a year ago.
- Non-GAAP earnings came in at $0.14. That beat estimates by 2 cents.
- Q4 revenue of $90.0 million compared to $76.2 million a year ago. That beat the $87.48 million revenue estimate.
- 7.6% comps (6.4% at company owned, 8.6% at franchised)
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Might be worth a gamble if I can pick up some at around $21-$22


After Hours : $25.26 - Down $3.80 (13.08%)

Q1 numbers

- profit of $6.8 million... up from $5.4 million a year ago
- non-GAAP EPS of 18 cents a share (up from 13 cents a year ago) vs 17 cent estimate
- revenue of $90.4 million (up 11% from $81.4 million a year ago) vs $88 million estimate
- same store sales of 5.1% (3.5% at company owned stores, 6.2% at franchised stores) vs 5.5% estimate

Weak Q2 guidance:

- same store sales of 3%-5%
- EPS of 67 cents to 71 cents... mid point of 69 cents below expectations of 70 cents
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Might be worth a gamble if I can pick up some at around $21-$22

After Hours : $25.26 - Down $3.80 (13.08%)

Q1 numbers

- profit of $6.8 million... up from $5.4 million a year ago
- non-GAAP EPS of 18 cents a share (up from 13 cents a year ago) vs 17 cent estimate
- revenue of $90.4 million (up 11% from $81.4 million a year ago) vs $88 million estimate
- same store sales of 5.1% (3.5% at company owned stores, 6.2% at franchised stores) vs 5.5% estimate

Weak Q2 guidance:

- same store sales of 3%-5%
- EPS of 67 cents to 71 cents... mid point of 69 cents below expectations of 70 cents
So glad I didn't take that gamble.



After Hours : $15.89 - Down $2.47 (13.45%)

- Q2 non-GAAP earnings $0.19 per share ($7.353 million). Up 21.4% from $0.16 per share ($6.1 million) a year ago. Estimates were for $0.18 -- Beat
- Q2 revenue of $89.5 million. Up 2.99% from $86.9 million a year ago. Estimates were for $93 million -- Miss
- Q2 comps of 1.3% (-0.5% at company owned restaurants, +2.6% at franchised restaurants) way below 3%-5% guidance they gave back in May -- Miss

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I mean you could have shorted the stock.
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$36 to $13 in a little over a yr cant be good
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I've never even heard of them. I had to google it to make sure it wasn't the chicken place form breaking bad.
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10.58 -0.94
Down 8.16% AH


Missed revenue.

The Costa Mesa, California-based company said it had profit of 12 cents per share. Earnings, adjusted for non-recurring costs, came to 18 cents per share.
The results exceeded Wall Street expectations. The average estimate of six analysts surveyed by Zacks Investment Research was for earnings of 15 cents per share.
The Tex-Mex fast food chain posted revenue of $88.9 million in the period, which fell short of Street forecasts. Five analysts surveyed by Zacks expected $90.4 million.
El Pollo Loco expects full-year earnings in the range of 67 cents to 69 cents per share.

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$9.67 -1.85 -16.06%
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how far will it drop?
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Dang it this has been rallying as chipotle has been rallying


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earnings report in about 30 min
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Would've been a good by in the $9-$10 range. You'd be up like 50%
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*El Pollo Loco Reports Q4 EPS $0.14 Vs Est $0.13, Sales $86.3M Vs Est $88.03M
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Down like 9.12% $13.75 -$1.38
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$11.24 -$1.92 (-14.58%) on earnings miss

The grilled-chicken chain posted earnings of 17 cents a share on $94.4 million in revenue. Analysts had expected earnings of 18 cents per share on revenues of $96.6 million, according to a consensus estimate from FactSet.

Although overall same-restaurant sales grew 0.7 percent, company-operated locations saw sales drop 0.6 percent during the quarter, due to a 0.8 percent decrease in traffic. Franchise restaurants, however, saw comparable sales grow 1.8 percent.

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smells in here.
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Q2 2016 expectations
- EPS of $0.18 (down 5% from $0.19 a year ago)
- revenue of $96.67 million (up 8% from $89.5 million a year ago)
- comps of ?? (was up 1.3% a year ago)

Has had positive comps for past 19 consecutive quarters


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