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Old 06-06-2009, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by moeronn
This is fine for backing up computers to, but not really a good solution for storing all of your files for access from all computers, since there is no redundancy.

What do you mean by there is no redundancy?
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
What do you mean by there is no redundancy?
I think he was referring to the fact that it's not a RAID setup.

Which is why I won't ever use a single exterior hard drive setup as a backup solution.
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my friend has this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822328001


he says its working out well for him
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Re: Miz's friend's box.

Read the reviews -- you get what you pay for. The box seems pretty inflexible to me. If all you're going to do is stuff 2 identical disks in a chassis, and leave it like that, it should work fine. If you ever think you're going to use 1 or 2 of the extra slots, or upgrade to bigger disks, you'll need another box to back this one up to so you can make the changes.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Re: Miz's friend's box.

Read the reviews -- you get what you pay for. The box seems pretty inflexible to me. If all you're going to do is stuff 2 identical disks in a chassis, and leave it like that, it should work fine. If you ever think you're going to use 1 or 2 of the extra slots, or upgrade to bigger disks, you'll need another box to back this one up to so you can make the changes.


That's where the infrant wins out. And it's only a $70 price hike from that unit (not including the drives).

How much support is also provided for the promise unit? Infrant has a huge forum of members that you can turn to for support.

http://www.readynas.com/forum/
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal


That's where the infrant wins out. And it's only a $70 price hike from that unit (not including the drives).

How much support is also provided for the promise unit? Infrant has a huge forum of members that you can turn to for support.

http://www.readynas.com/forum/
I agree 100%.
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have you guys heard of this service: ReadyNAS Vault

http://www.netgear.com/readynasvault

remote backup for your ReadyNAS. It's pretty cheap too.

I don't know if I feel comfortable yet storing my files on someone else's server. I'm not worried about web hosting, but when it comes to personal files, I get worried.
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Doesn't look that cheap to me. Back up 5GB for $6 per month? I can buy a 8 GB memory stick to do that much more cost effectively.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Doesn't look that cheap to me. Back up 5GB for $6 per month? I can buy a 8 GB memory stick to do that much more cost effectively.
True, but their online back also provides all the services for managing the backups and providing version control for 20 some odd backups. I guess you could buy 20 8GB flash sticks and rotate them though but you're only going to get so many writes to those before they fail.

But I understand your point, there are alternatives, $6 bucks isnt' that bad though.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
But I understand your point, there are alternatives, $6 bucks isnt' that bad though.
It's $0.40 per GB for each additional GB after 5. So, if you wanted to back up your 1TB NAS it'd cost you $404 per month. You'd be much better off within 6 months or so buying a second ReadyNAS and using rdb to back one up to the other.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
It's $0.40 per GB for each additional GB after 5. So, if you wanted to back up your 1TB NAS it'd cost you $404 per month. You'd be much better off within 6 months or so buying a second ReadyNAS and using rdb to back one up to the other.
didn't do that calculation. You're right, it sucks.

In 4-5 months you would have spent enough money to buy a whole new readynas unit.
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Well, looks like the PSU in my ReadyNAS NV gave out. Normally I don't leave mine powered all the time, but this past week I just left it on and this morning it was turned off. I thought the wifey had turned it off so I went to power it on and nothing.

Opened up a ticket with Netgear support, hopefully they will send me a replacement PSU for free because the serial number for it is within the range of units that may have had faulty PSUs.
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missed the edit time..

I hope my data is safe and the hard drives weren't damaged.
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Sunovabiatch -- mine died last night.
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What the... is there an expiration date on these things?

We actually had the one (NV) at work go out a while back and they sent us a whole new unit (NV+). Hopefully they take care of you guys and your data is safe.
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Originally Posted by moeronn
What the... is there an expiration date on these things?

We actually had the one (NV) at work go out a while back and they sent us a whole new unit (NV+). Hopefully they take care of you guys and your data is safe.
I still haven't heard from Netgear but I am following this thread on the Infrant forums after posting in there...

http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewto...0260&start=225
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
I still haven't heard from Netgear but I am following this thread on the Infrant forums after posting in there...

http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewto...0260&start=225
My serial number is 91 before the start of the covered range.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
My serial number is 91 before the start of the covered range.
Contact them, maybe they'll make an exception. Or post in that thread at the least. I think some of the guys in that forum are netgear employees from the way some of them post up information about user's situations (case #'s, etc).
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Contact them, maybe they'll make an exception. Or post in that thread at the least. I think some of the guys in that forum are netgear employees from the way some of them post up information about user's situations (case #'s, etc).
I submitted a tech support request, I'll see what comes back.
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Heard back from Netgear support yesterday. They sent me an email stating that my product was still under warranty for the PSU replacement. I called them back today, set up the RMA and they are shipping out a new PSU that I have to install and test before I send my my old PSU back to them. new PSU should arrive in about a week.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Heard back from Netgear support yesterday. They sent me an email stating that my product was still under warranty for the PSU replacement. I called them back today, set up the RMA and they are shipping out a new PSU that I have to install and test before I send my my old PSU back to them. new PSU should arrive in about a week.
Glad to hear they are taking care of it.

I think we had our unit sent express since it was used in a business. Don't recall if we paid the shipping, though.
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I sent them my purchase info today as well -- they said once they have that they'll send a new power supply out.
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Very happy with their support so far -- they're sending a replacement power supply out to me next day at no charge. I should be back up and running tomorrow.
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Very happy with their support so far -- they're sending a replacement power supply out to me next day at no charge. I should be back up and running tomorrow.
Glad to hear.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Very happy with their support so far -- they're sending a replacement power supply out to me next day at no charge. I should be back up and running tomorrow.
next day? WTH!




Glad to hear! let us know how it goes. Did they require you send in the old one as well? Let me know what's included in the replacement, I'm curious to know if they provide the instructions on where to send the old one as well as how to install the PSU.
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next day? WTH!




Glad to hear! let us know how it goes. Did they require you send in the old one as well? Let me know what's included in the replacement, I'm curious to know if they provide the instructions on where to send the old one as well as how to install the PSU.
I gave them a credit card number as collateral for the old one. I'll let you know what comes in the package. I don't know why I got next day service.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
I gave them a credit card number as collateral for the old one. I'll let you know what comes in the package. I don't know why I got next day service.
I had to give them a credit card # too.

The first dept I spoke to said they could do next-day air but I'd have to pay $30 for the shipping, then they transferred me to the ReadyNAS NV dept because they then realized that they couldn't process my request because they only dealt with ReadyNAS Duo products. Then the Level 2 support staff simply said I'll get the product in 5-7 days, never even offered a next day air option. Oh well. I'm gettin' a free PSU, can't complain.
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I may look into this when I get a house, thanks for the info
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Originally Posted by 6MTUA5
I may look into this when I get a house, thanks for the info
Glad this thread helped. FYI, since this thread began there are many more solutions on the market now. The ReadyNAS Pro is the newest iteration of this product and has a much higher storage potential.
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Received my replacement PSU this morning, gonna tackle installing it now. Hope all goes well and more importantly, hope all my data is safe.
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Cool. Let us know how it goes.

We're about to replace the drives in the office NAS soon. Need to backup up all the data, then copy it over to the new drives. Only about 675 GB.
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Originally Posted by moeronn
Cool. Let us know how it goes.

We're about to replace the drives in the office NAS soon. Need to backup up all the data, then copy it over to the new drives. Only about 675 GB.
The replacement procedure was very simple. Took about half an hour. Spent a little time with a vacuum and air duster to clean out the inside of the unit.

It turned on just fine and has been performing a file system check for a while now.

What size drives are you going to go with? A couple weeks ago I saw an NV+ with 2TB of space on sale at fry's for $500 (including the $250) mail-in-rebate. I was so tempted to pick one up and have two of them. I don't know what I'd use them both for but for that price, it was a friggin' steal!!!! Diskless NV+ on Amazon are going for $468.
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Well, it's back up and running. The File System check reported: "Volume scan found and corrected errors." I guess I'm lucky that it's a RAID system and was able to repair the problems although It still makes me nervous because I haven't been able to find in the admin panel anyplace that states what it corrected.

Between all my photos, music, school documents, software, etc, i guess I'll never know where or what it fixed.
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Glad things are back up and running.

There should be some sort of event log. You can also have it e-mail you whenever there is a shut down or any type of error.

I saw the $468 price on Amazon and I need to get one sooner than later. I just need to organize the office and move my modem and router in there so that the NAS plus directly into the router in the same room. There just isn't the time to spend on it, so I may as well watch the price keep going lower. As long as they keep making/selling them.
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Originally Posted by moeronn
Glad things are back up and running.

There should be some sort of event log. You can also have it e-mail you whenever there is a shut down or any type of error.

I saw the $468 price on Amazon and I need to get one sooner than later. I just need to organize the office and move my modem and router in there so that the NAS plus directly into the router in the same room. There just isn't the time to spend on it, so I may as well watch the price keep going lower. As long as they keep making/selling them.
I've had my NAS set to always email me whenever an event occurs. However, the information emailed to you is quite sparse. There is an option to send information to a syslog server, only thing is I don't have a syslog server.

I didn't know they were still manufacturing the NV+. I'd imagine that with the newer variant, the ReadyNAS Pro, that they'd stop making the older NV+ to focus on the newer technologies. If I were buying another for a business, I'd surely go with newest than an older one, and the ReadyNAS pro has 6 bays opposed to the 4 in the NV+.
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I've had my NAS set to always email me whenever an event occurs. However, the information emailed to you is quite sparse. There is an option to send information to a syslog server, only thing is I don't have a syslog server.

I didn't know they were still manufacturing the NV+. I'd imagine that with the newer variant, the ReadyNAS Pro, that they'd stop making the older NV+ to focus on the newer technologies. If I were buying another for a business, I'd surely go with newest than an older one, and the ReadyNAS pro has 6 bays opposed to the 4 in the NV+.
We're just upgrading the drives in the one at work. I'm watching the NV+ for my personal use. I can't justify the ReadNAY Pro for home - price wise.
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Originally Posted by moeronn
We're just upgrading the drives in the one at work. I'm watching the NV+ for my personal use. I can't justify the ReadNAY Pro for home - price wise.
Yea, if you got money to blow, the Pro model is great; otherwise, the NV+ offers more than enough power.

I just checked amazon again, $684 for an NV+ including 2TB of storage. Not bad.
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Oh yea, I don't remember if I mentioned this or not, but I connected my NV to an APC 750 ES series battery backup. extra protection can't be so bad. The NAS recognized it and provided the option of when it should automatically power down in the event of a power outage.

http://www.apc.com/products/resource...otal_watts=200
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I forgot to follow up -- Netgear shipped my power supply on Friday, got it on Monday. Installation was very quick and easy as Sly already described.

Then I plugged it back in and horrors -- it didn't turn on. I then checked the power button on my APC battery backup, and found it was off. I'm sure the old power supply was on its last legs anyway, so I sent it back to them.

My 3TB of RAID goodness was checked overnight and no errors found. My NAS is back up and running today.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
I forgot to follow up -- Netgear shipped my power supply on Friday, got it on Monday. Installation was very quick and easy as Sly already described.

Then I plugged it back in and horrors -- it didn't turn on. I then checked the power button on my APC battery backup, and found it was off. I'm sure the old power supply was on its last legs anyway, so I sent it back to them.

My 3TB of RAID goodness was checked overnight and no errors found. My NAS is back up and running today.
Good to hear. And got a good laugh out of it.

Mine is still performing a volume sync. 2TB of total space takes about 4 hrs to sync on my setup. Scared to think what it would take if I upgrade the 4 drives to 2TB each when they upgrade the firmware to support them.


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