Microsoft: Windows 10 News and Discussion Thread
#121
Sanest Florida Man
adding flac audio support too
#122
Race Director
Windows 10 Release set for Fall, 2015
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#123
Go Giants
Well, that sucks.
#124
Oliver!!!
I don't really think it does. I'd rather they take the time and get it right than release another turd like Vista. At this point, I'm not really in a position where I need an updated version of Windows on any of my (too) many machines. From what I'm seeing on the Surface Pro I like 10 and will probably migrate my desktop from 7 to 10 if the free upgrade thing pans out.
#125
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I don't really think it does. I'd rather they take the time and get it right than release another turd like Vista. At this point, I'm not really in a position where I need an updated version of Windows on any of my (too) many machines. From what I'm seeing on the Surface Pro I like 10 and will probably migrate my desktop from 7 to 10 if the free upgrade thing pans out.
#126
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#127
Go Giants
I must speak to 2-5 a week who are switching to Mac from Windows.
#128
Oliver!!!
Agreed, 8 is a fiasco of Vista proportions but it is at least (for me anyway) reliable. I haven't really run into any bugs that aren't actual poorly implemented features. Couldn't say that about Vista, and I can't really say that about 10 at this point. Once they work them out, I think it'll be a stellar OS.
PC is losing market share to Mac. There are articles about it all over the web. I don't think they're going anywhere though. By and large, a Windows PC is cheaper than a Mac by a large margin. That's not to say that Mac's aren't expensive for a reason, but for the majority of consumers price, not features or specs, is the single largest deciding factor when purchasing a new computer.
Windows hits the skids, Mac OS X on the rise ? The Register
PC is losing market share to Mac. There are articles about it all over the web. I don't think they're going anywhere though. By and large, a Windows PC is cheaper than a Mac by a large margin. That's not to say that Mac's aren't expensive for a reason, but for the majority of consumers price, not features or specs, is the single largest deciding factor when purchasing a new computer.
Windows hits the skids, Mac OS X on the rise ? The Register
#129
Needs more Lemon Pledge
I just switched to MAC.
And then loaded windows on it...
And then loaded windows on it...
#130
#131
Needs more Lemon Pledge
#132
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http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/w...merous-changes
but read this before you jump:
http://www.neowin.net/news/installin...r-update-cycle
but read this before you jump:
http://www.neowin.net/news/installin...r-update-cycle
#133
Team Owner
Windows 10 going to ship with two browsers? IE and Spartan
Windows 10 will reportedly come with a new, lighter web browser
Windows 10 will reportedly come with a new, lighter web browser
Internet Explorer has been a cornerstone of Windows ever since 1995, but it looks like Microsoft is ready to leave its venerable (if sometimes infamous) web browser by the wayside. ZDNet understands that a previously rumored overhaul to Internet Explorer for Windows 10, nicknamed Spartan, is actually a brand new creation. It would still use the company's own web engines, but it would be far more "light-weight" and, if you believe earlier leaks, behave more like Chrome or Firefox. The break is reportedly sharp enough that the future Windows version will keep Internet Explorer 11 around in case you need it for certain apps or features.
Microsoft hasn't confirmed anything, and there aren't any guarantees that it'll reveal Spartan when we attend its Windows 10 event on January 21st. However, the folks in Redmond have plenty of incentives to ditch their legacy work. There will be versions of Spartan for both desktop and mobile users, so efficiency is important. Also, Microsoft has considered dropping the IE name solely to escape the browser's old reputation as an insecure, non-standard mess -- new software might help people shake those awful memories. If nothing else, a fresh browser would acknowledge that Google and Mozilla have accomplished a lot through their rapid-fire upgrade cycles.
Microsoft hasn't confirmed anything, and there aren't any guarantees that it'll reveal Spartan when we attend its Windows 10 event on January 21st. However, the folks in Redmond have plenty of incentives to ditch their legacy work. There will be versions of Spartan for both desktop and mobile users, so efficiency is important. Also, Microsoft has considered dropping the IE name solely to escape the browser's old reputation as an insecure, non-standard mess -- new software might help people shake those awful memories. If nothing else, a fresh browser would acknowledge that Google and Mozilla have accomplished a lot through their rapid-fire upgrade cycles.
#134
Banned
I have W8.1 on my tablet and I hate it.
The dual worlds thing just don't work.
Most Metro Apps are mediocre and the traditional desktop environment doesn't allow to zoom in or out.
Add to this numerous problems of drivers and weely crash. Good thing that my Dell was relatively cheap. I find incredible the prices asked for Surface 3 Pro!
Will W10 keep the Metro and Desktop environments as W8.1?
The dual worlds thing just don't work.
Most Metro Apps are mediocre and the traditional desktop environment doesn't allow to zoom in or out.
Add to this numerous problems of drivers and weely crash. Good thing that my Dell was relatively cheap. I find incredible the prices asked for Surface 3 Pro!
Will W10 keep the Metro and Desktop environments as W8.1?
#135
Go Giants
Yes they still have both.
#136
Sanest Florida Man
It's rumored the desktop is going away on the non Intel tablets.
I think the desktop was only kept around in RT because there wasn't a metro version of office ready. Metro office should be ready by the time 10 is out. They've showed off prerelease versions for a while now.
I think the desktop was only kept around in RT because there wasn't a metro version of office ready. Metro office should be ready by the time 10 is out. They've showed off prerelease versions for a while now.
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#139
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Windows 10 is a free upgrade for Windows 7, and 8.1 user for the first year
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So a subscription for windows???
#141
Sanest Florida Man
NO moran. It's free to upgrade for the first year after windows 10 becomes available. After that if you want to upgrade there will be the usual cost of purchasing the software.
They're giving away Windows 10 for everyone (except XP, Vista users) for one year, get it within the first year and it won't cost you anything.
They're giving away Windows 10 for everyone (except XP, Vista users) for one year, get it within the first year and it won't cost you anything.
#142
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Windows 10 for phone is looking really nice!
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I was reading articles that said it was going to be a subscription. asshole
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Damn straight it needs to be a free upgrade. Thanks Apple.
I tried watching that Windows 10 event. That guy is so damn uninteresting. Just give me my start menu back and STFU.
I tried watching that Windows 10 event. That guy is so damn uninteresting. Just give me my start menu back and STFU.
#146
Go Giants
yay free.
#147
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for the first year
Windows as a service
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Great news! We will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified new or existing Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year!* And even better: once a qualified Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it up to date for the supported lifetime of the device, keeping it more secure, and introducing new features and functionality over time – for no additional charge. Sign up with your email today, and we will send you more information about Windows 10 and the upgrade offer in the coming months.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ows-10_Null_01
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The 9 biggest announcements from Microsoft's Windows 10 event | The Verge
We got our first look at a bunch of features in Windows 10, which comes out next week for people who signed up for the pre-release. As expected, Microsoft made a strong push toward connecting its devices more seamlessly, part of its universal apps program. Office, Outlook, and other apps all work quite similarly across devices, and Cortana is everywhere, working as a natural-language interface and personal assistant. The big surprise, however, was Microsoft’s foray into virtual reality, with its HoloLens glasses, an ambitious bid to create a system for overlaying holographic images over the real world.
The core of Windows 10, unveiled
New look, old start menu
After the sea change that was Windows 8, Microsoft is still trying to make an operating system that will work on both mobile devices and PCs. Beyond purely visual changes like reworked desktop icons, Windows 10’s start menu will now expand to a full-screen view that looks like Windows 8.1’s home screen. A new Android-style Action Center provides quick access to Wi-Fi options, Bluetooth, and other settings — and the settings menus themselves should be cleaned up and easier to use. It’s another effort to keep the best features of desktop Windows while adapting to touchscreens. A new feature called Continuum, in fact, is designed specifically for convertible devices, switching almost instantly from a mouse and keyboard to a tablet screen. It obviously works pretty well on the stage, but so far, we haven’t seen more than early testing builds.
Desktop on your phone
Windows 8 was a desktop / tablet compromise, but Windows 10 is going even further: it’s for phones, too. There’s a build of it tailored to devices smaller than 8 inches, which reorganizes the interface to look a lot more like the old Windows Phone operating system. True to Microsoft’s unified vision, notifications will sync between PC and phone, and Microsoft-owned service Skype will integrate into the messaging app. One of Windows Phone’s fatal flaws, of course, was that it didn’t work well (or at all) with other major apps like Instagram or Gmail. But with a heavier focus on universal apps, and an assurance that this isn’t just "Windows Phone" but actual Windows, it’s possible Microsoft will be in better shape this time around.
Cortana on your desktop
Cortana, Microsoft’s personal digital assistant, is coming to the PC. Long available on mobile, Cortana will now live next to the start button on the task bar and serve as a natural-language interface for Windows 10. It will answer spoken or typed queries, searching documents across local documents as well as ones stored on OneDrive. It will also propose web links and other suggestions — if you type Skype, for example, it or link to the store if you haven’t installed it already. Cortana will also be integrated into the new Maps app, reminding you where you parked your car. Cortana will also be proactive, popping up notifications it thinks you’ll be interested in — tracking flights, stocks, sports, and other it’s either learned or you’ve entered manually into its notebook.
New apps everywhere
Want to run PowerPoint from a phone?
Microsoft demonstrated its vision for getting all its Windows 10 PCs, tablets, and phones to work well together. First up was the unified Office, the phone and tablet versions of which look very similar to the desktop one. Most of the same formatting options are there, and the recent documents list syncs between devices, so you can collaborate on documents on the go. Microsoft ran a Powerpoint presentation from a phone and said you could wirelessly print documents from mobile as well. It’s a different strategy from Apple, which has designed distinct software for iOS and OSX for different devices. Microsoft built the full Word engine into the universal Outlook app. It has iOS-like swiping interface for deleting and flagging messages. The PC version looks similar and a lot cleaner than the current Mail client. Photos will upload to OneDrive, and the photo app will aggregate pictures from all devices, remove duplicates and clutter, and organize them automatically into albums.
Internet Explorer is over. Say hello to Project Spartan
As we saw in some leaks earlier this month, Windows is replacing the much-maligned Internet Explorer with a new browser codenamed Project Spartan, designed for Windows 10. It’s a cleaner browser with a lot of shiny new features and integration with other Microsoft services. There’s a "note-taking mode" that lets you draw all over pages with a stylus or add comments with a keyboard, then save the results on OneNote. A clean "reading mode" does what you might expect: it formats a page like a book and adds a syncable reading list that’s basically "Pocket for Microsoft" or Safari’s page-saving feature. And like just about everything else Microsoft announced today, Spartan has Cortana built into it, contextually recognizing information like restaurants or plane flights and offering extra information.
A bigger role for OneDrive
It didn’t get a distinct announcement, but OneDrive was everywhere in Microsoft’s presentation. It formed the backbone of its unified apps, allowing documents to sync across devices. Belfiore also teased a larger role for OneDrive in photos and music: Music, for example, will sync between devices using OneDrive. There weren’t many details, but Joe Belfiore said the feature would be added in "a month or two."
Your PC is now your Xbox
Microsoft owns a vast majority of the computer gaming market. It owns a substantial portion of the console gaming market. So why was its now-defunct PC gaming network, Games for Windows Live, so horrible? Hopefully Microsoft has figured this out, because it’s now announced an Xbox app for launch on every Windows 10 machine. The app brings over Xbox One features like your messages, friends list, and activity feed. You’ll be able to chat with people on Xbox Live and view console achievements and videos from your desktop, as well as record your own clips on PC.
From this first look, it seems a lot like an expanded version of Microsoft’s SmartGlass mobile app. But more excitingly, you can actually stream games from your Xbox One — it’s roughly comparable to Sony streaming games from the PlayStation 4 to the Vita, except that instead of a mobile console, you could stream Xbox games to a Windows tablet like the Surface.
Hardware got weird
Microsoft made a giant touchscreen TV
Microsoft announced the Surface Hub, an 84-inch 4K screen meant for the workplace. It has cameras, speakers, mics, Bluetooth, NFC, and a touchscreen interface meant for a stylus. The idea is that you can have meetings, with members, appearing via Skype, and draw on the screen, with your work shared between everyone’s devices. It's Microsoft's latest iteration of the large-scale multitouch technology from Perceptive Pixel, a research company it acquired in 2012.
Microsoft's virtual reality headset is here — and it's augmented reality
The most shockingly ambitious, unexpected, and bizarrely sci-fi announcement of the event was Microsoft's foray into augmented reality. The Microsoft HoloLens is a see-through visor that overlays holographic imagery over the real world. The video showed architects walking through building renders, plumbers drawing instructions onto faucets remotely, and someone playing Minecraft on tabletops. Also possibly a virtual dog. Alex Kipman, who worked on Kinect, described it as the future of technology, art, and everything.
It’s powered by a new processor, what Kipman called a holographic processing unit. It’s equipped with sensors to detect the real world and gestures of the user, as well as holographic sound. It has no wires and doesn’t need to connect to phones or PCs. Holographic APIs are built into all Windows 10 devices, and Kipman invited developers of Magic Leap, Glass, and Oculus to come work with it. He said it would be "available in the Windows 10 timeframe."
The core of Windows 10, unveiled
New look, old start menu
After the sea change that was Windows 8, Microsoft is still trying to make an operating system that will work on both mobile devices and PCs. Beyond purely visual changes like reworked desktop icons, Windows 10’s start menu will now expand to a full-screen view that looks like Windows 8.1’s home screen. A new Android-style Action Center provides quick access to Wi-Fi options, Bluetooth, and other settings — and the settings menus themselves should be cleaned up and easier to use. It’s another effort to keep the best features of desktop Windows while adapting to touchscreens. A new feature called Continuum, in fact, is designed specifically for convertible devices, switching almost instantly from a mouse and keyboard to a tablet screen. It obviously works pretty well on the stage, but so far, we haven’t seen more than early testing builds.
Desktop on your phone
Windows 8 was a desktop / tablet compromise, but Windows 10 is going even further: it’s for phones, too. There’s a build of it tailored to devices smaller than 8 inches, which reorganizes the interface to look a lot more like the old Windows Phone operating system. True to Microsoft’s unified vision, notifications will sync between PC and phone, and Microsoft-owned service Skype will integrate into the messaging app. One of Windows Phone’s fatal flaws, of course, was that it didn’t work well (or at all) with other major apps like Instagram or Gmail. But with a heavier focus on universal apps, and an assurance that this isn’t just "Windows Phone" but actual Windows, it’s possible Microsoft will be in better shape this time around.
Cortana on your desktop
Cortana, Microsoft’s personal digital assistant, is coming to the PC. Long available on mobile, Cortana will now live next to the start button on the task bar and serve as a natural-language interface for Windows 10. It will answer spoken or typed queries, searching documents across local documents as well as ones stored on OneDrive. It will also propose web links and other suggestions — if you type Skype, for example, it or link to the store if you haven’t installed it already. Cortana will also be integrated into the new Maps app, reminding you where you parked your car. Cortana will also be proactive, popping up notifications it thinks you’ll be interested in — tracking flights, stocks, sports, and other it’s either learned or you’ve entered manually into its notebook.
New apps everywhere
Want to run PowerPoint from a phone?
Microsoft demonstrated its vision for getting all its Windows 10 PCs, tablets, and phones to work well together. First up was the unified Office, the phone and tablet versions of which look very similar to the desktop one. Most of the same formatting options are there, and the recent documents list syncs between devices, so you can collaborate on documents on the go. Microsoft ran a Powerpoint presentation from a phone and said you could wirelessly print documents from mobile as well. It’s a different strategy from Apple, which has designed distinct software for iOS and OSX for different devices. Microsoft built the full Word engine into the universal Outlook app. It has iOS-like swiping interface for deleting and flagging messages. The PC version looks similar and a lot cleaner than the current Mail client. Photos will upload to OneDrive, and the photo app will aggregate pictures from all devices, remove duplicates and clutter, and organize them automatically into albums.
Internet Explorer is over. Say hello to Project Spartan
As we saw in some leaks earlier this month, Windows is replacing the much-maligned Internet Explorer with a new browser codenamed Project Spartan, designed for Windows 10. It’s a cleaner browser with a lot of shiny new features and integration with other Microsoft services. There’s a "note-taking mode" that lets you draw all over pages with a stylus or add comments with a keyboard, then save the results on OneNote. A clean "reading mode" does what you might expect: it formats a page like a book and adds a syncable reading list that’s basically "Pocket for Microsoft" or Safari’s page-saving feature. And like just about everything else Microsoft announced today, Spartan has Cortana built into it, contextually recognizing information like restaurants or plane flights and offering extra information.
A bigger role for OneDrive
It didn’t get a distinct announcement, but OneDrive was everywhere in Microsoft’s presentation. It formed the backbone of its unified apps, allowing documents to sync across devices. Belfiore also teased a larger role for OneDrive in photos and music: Music, for example, will sync between devices using OneDrive. There weren’t many details, but Joe Belfiore said the feature would be added in "a month or two."
Your PC is now your Xbox
Microsoft owns a vast majority of the computer gaming market. It owns a substantial portion of the console gaming market. So why was its now-defunct PC gaming network, Games for Windows Live, so horrible? Hopefully Microsoft has figured this out, because it’s now announced an Xbox app for launch on every Windows 10 machine. The app brings over Xbox One features like your messages, friends list, and activity feed. You’ll be able to chat with people on Xbox Live and view console achievements and videos from your desktop, as well as record your own clips on PC.
From this first look, it seems a lot like an expanded version of Microsoft’s SmartGlass mobile app. But more excitingly, you can actually stream games from your Xbox One — it’s roughly comparable to Sony streaming games from the PlayStation 4 to the Vita, except that instead of a mobile console, you could stream Xbox games to a Windows tablet like the Surface.
Hardware got weird
Microsoft made a giant touchscreen TV
Microsoft announced the Surface Hub, an 84-inch 4K screen meant for the workplace. It has cameras, speakers, mics, Bluetooth, NFC, and a touchscreen interface meant for a stylus. The idea is that you can have meetings, with members, appearing via Skype, and draw on the screen, with your work shared between everyone’s devices. It's Microsoft's latest iteration of the large-scale multitouch technology from Perceptive Pixel, a research company it acquired in 2012.
Microsoft's virtual reality headset is here — and it's augmented reality
The most shockingly ambitious, unexpected, and bizarrely sci-fi announcement of the event was Microsoft's foray into augmented reality. The Microsoft HoloLens is a see-through visor that overlays holographic imagery over the real world. The video showed architects walking through building renders, plumbers drawing instructions onto faucets remotely, and someone playing Minecraft on tabletops. Also possibly a virtual dog. Alex Kipman, who worked on Kinect, described it as the future of technology, art, and everything.
It’s powered by a new processor, what Kipman called a holographic processing unit. It’s equipped with sensors to detect the real world and gestures of the user, as well as holographic sound. It has no wires and doesn’t need to connect to phones or PCs. Holographic APIs are built into all Windows 10 devices, and Kipman invited developers of Magic Leap, Glass, and Oculus to come work with it. He said it would be "available in the Windows 10 timeframe."
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Let's see some links. asshole
A quick Google search could have saved you some time...
Great news! We will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified new or existing Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year!* And even better: once a qualified Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it up to date for the supported lifetime of the device, keeping it more secure, and introducing new features and functionality over time – for no additional charge. Sign up with your email today, and we will send you more information about Windows 10 and the upgrade offer in the coming months.
Windows 10 - Microsoft Windows
A quick Google search could have saved you some time...
Great news! We will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified new or existing Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year!* And even better: once a qualified Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it up to date for the supported lifetime of the device, keeping it more secure, and introducing new features and functionality over time – for no additional charge. Sign up with your email today, and we will send you more information about Windows 10 and the upgrade offer in the coming months.
Windows 10 - Microsoft Windows
Damn google news
#153
Sanest Florida Man
The next technical preview update with some of the features discussed this week is available.
The continuum feature is now available to try on your SP3 Whiskers
The continuum feature is now available to try on your SP3 Whiskers
#154
Sanest Florida Man
Thinking about putting it on my laptop now...
#155
Will WP 10 run on a Nokia 810? I am going to find out :p
#156
Race Director
^^^^ subbed for the brick report
#157
well it currently runs WP 8.1 with no problems so I am guessing 10 will behave similarly.
#158
Go Giants
Runs nice on Bootcamp for me - Hangs here and there, but looks nice.
#159
Team Owner
Has anyone checked out the Windows Server Technical Preview?
#160
Race Director