Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents
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Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents
A U.S. jury awarded Apple $1.05 billion in damages from Samsung Electronics, finding that the Korean company infringed on some of Apple's valid patents.
As for the countersuit, the jury found Apple did not violate any of Samsung's wireless standards or feature patents.
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The jury found some Samsung phones infringed Apple design patents but said the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 did not infringe Apple design.
The patents the jury found Samsung violated included those for the "bounce back," scroll, zoom and navigate features.
The verdict came after just three days of deliberation, court officials told reporters on Friday, reaching a decision faster than expected.
Apple and Samsung have locked horns since July 31 in one of the most closely watched technology trials in years. The outcome of the legal battle between two companies that sell more than half the world's smartphones and tablets will reverberate around a mobile industry struggling to make headway against the pair.
As for the countersuit, the jury found Apple did not violate any of Samsung's wireless standards or feature patents.
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The jury found some Samsung phones infringed Apple design patents but said the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 did not infringe Apple design.
The patents the jury found Samsung violated included those for the "bounce back," scroll, zoom and navigate features.
The verdict came after just three days of deliberation, court officials told reporters on Friday, reaching a decision faster than expected.
Apple and Samsung have locked horns since July 31 in one of the most closely watched technology trials in years. The outcome of the legal battle between two companies that sell more than half the world's smartphones and tablets will reverberate around a mobile industry struggling to make headway against the pair.
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Another entry to the page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._litigation
1 billion for some UI features
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._litigation
1 billion for some UI features
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Even samsung knew it was coming. They've been setting up for the appeal the whole time....
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Another entry to the page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._litigation
1 billion for some UI features
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._litigation
1 billion for some UI features
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So did Apple's patents on multi-touch pinch to zoom hold up? Was the jury even able to invalidate a patent? They did declare patent exhaustion on Samsungs BS patents....
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This will also pay nicely for the loss against Nokia last year
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That's the theory behind Samsung releasing "evidence" to the press once it was blocked from being in the courtroom. They're going to appeal and say it wasn't a fair cause and they would've won if this evidence was allowed.
I think it was pretty obvious to everyone that Samsung was royally screwed on this one. Apple had some epic Samsung documents that made it look pretty obvious that they were trying to copy apple's trade dress.
I think it was pretty obvious to everyone that Samsung was royally screwed on this one. Apple had some epic Samsung documents that made it look pretty obvious that they were trying to copy apple's trade dress.
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That's the theory behind Samsung releasing "evidence" to the press once it was blocked from being in the courtroom. They're going to appeal and say it wasn't a fair cause and they would've won if this evidence was allowed.
I think it was pretty obvious to everyone that Samsung was royally screwed on this one. Apple had some epic Samsung documents that made it look pretty obvious that they were trying to copy apple's trade dress.
I think it was pretty obvious to everyone that Samsung was royally screwed on this one. Apple had some epic Samsung documents that made it look pretty obvious that they were trying to copy apple's trade dress.
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Ouch.
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while i knew from the start that apple was gonna win...
i dont like what went on here. And samsungs official statement is gonna hold true for the future.
i dont like what went on here. And samsungs official statement is gonna hold true for the future.
Today's verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies. Consumers have the right to choices, and they know what they are buying when they purchase Samsung products. This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple's claims. Samsung will continue to innovate and offer choices for the consumer.
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I wonder if Samsung is saying that about the case they just won against Apple in their home Country???
http://www.skynews.com.au/businessne...aspx?id=787602
http://www.skynews.com.au/businessne...aspx?id=787602
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Interesting.... Apple wins in a US court and Samsung wins in a SK court. Having a jury review and make a decision within days based upon hundreds of pages of patents is just stupid. This will never end.
I own and use 4x more Apple products than I do Samsung products, but I think I'm done supporting Apple. Of all companies, in the smartphone sector Apple isn't the most innovative company out there but rather the best at marketing them. Not to mention they're the most determined as far as eliminating competition through litigation.
Not saying that Samsung is the most upstanding company either...
I own and use 4x more Apple products than I do Samsung products, but I think I'm done supporting Apple. Of all companies, in the smartphone sector Apple isn't the most innovative company out there but rather the best at marketing them. Not to mention they're the most determined as far as eliminating competition through litigation.
Not saying that Samsung is the most upstanding company either...
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You off of your soapbox yet?
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Just guessing, but I'd wager that Apple has been caught stealing actual technology from competitors more than other companies have legitimately stolen from them as a whole.
They'll even go as far as suing a supermarket for using an apple for a logo. I understand protecting your IP, but Apple is ridiculous.
They'll even go as far as suing a supermarket for using an apple for a logo. I understand protecting your IP, but Apple is ridiculous.
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How many Apple products do you own again?
In the end all of these lawsuits don't effect me, not immediately anyway. What bothers me is that people defend them.... when they wouldn't have gotten this far without stealing from their competitors.
In the end all of these lawsuits don't effect me, not immediately anyway. What bothers me is that people defend them.... when they wouldn't have gotten this far without stealing from their competitors.
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Samsung Lawyer's Trial Antics Aimed at Another Audience
John Quinn — crazy, or crazy like a fox?
As the Apple/Samsung trial enters its third week, much of the buzz continues to center around the famously aggressive trial lawyer's clashes with the judge. Assuming he isn't just a hothead, what's he trying to accomplish?
Probably two things, suggest legal strategists and those familiar with Quinn's style. Jumping up and down in front of U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh about evidence she excluded is a way of signaling to the court of appeals just how pivotal Koh's ruling was. And releasing a statement to the media about the evidence? That was probably aimed at consumers rather than Koh and the jury.
The Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan managing partner ran afoul of Koh even before opening statements began when he literally begged her to admit the excluded evidence.
When Koh found out about the press statement — which highlighted an excluded slide that showed a Samsung mobile phone design before Apple Inc. introduced the iPhone — she threatened sanctions. Later, Quinn flouted a court order when he made reference — in front of the jury — to an injunction blocking sales of a Samsung tablet.
Apple is seeking billions in patent damages, and for a variety of reasons, Samsung Electronics is seen as vulnerable. That may explain the run-ins with Koh, a 44-year-old judge appointed by President Obama just two years ago: Quinn is laying the groundwork for a potential appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit based on that excluded evidence.
"I'm sure Samsung will appeal on that point," said Mark Lemley, director of Stanford's Program in Law, Science and Technology and an IP litigator at Durie Tangri in San Francisco who has done work for Google Inc.
Quinn's tactics may have irked Koh, but his over-the-top entreaty about excluded evidence could help Samsung should it lose at trial, said Raymond Cardozo, an appellate specialist at Reed Smith in San Francisco. It's not enough to show an appeals court that the trial court made a mistake. Lawyers have to show that it was an outcome-changing mistake.
"The passion and the fervor with which he made the case that this evidence is crucial is helpful," Cardozo said. "When you are later arguing on appeal that this ruling was a complete game changer, it helps to show that's the way you behaved at the time."
But Samsung would also have to show that Koh's exclusion was an abuse of discretion. So far, her actions don't meet that standard, said appellate specialist Jerome Falk Jr., a partner at Arnold & Porter in San Francisco.
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As the Apple/Samsung trial enters its third week, much of the buzz continues to center around the famously aggressive trial lawyer's clashes with the judge. Assuming he isn't just a hothead, what's he trying to accomplish?
Probably two things, suggest legal strategists and those familiar with Quinn's style. Jumping up and down in front of U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh about evidence she excluded is a way of signaling to the court of appeals just how pivotal Koh's ruling was. And releasing a statement to the media about the evidence? That was probably aimed at consumers rather than Koh and the jury.
The Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan managing partner ran afoul of Koh even before opening statements began when he literally begged her to admit the excluded evidence.
When Koh found out about the press statement — which highlighted an excluded slide that showed a Samsung mobile phone design before Apple Inc. introduced the iPhone — she threatened sanctions. Later, Quinn flouted a court order when he made reference — in front of the jury — to an injunction blocking sales of a Samsung tablet.
Apple is seeking billions in patent damages, and for a variety of reasons, Samsung Electronics is seen as vulnerable. That may explain the run-ins with Koh, a 44-year-old judge appointed by President Obama just two years ago: Quinn is laying the groundwork for a potential appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit based on that excluded evidence.
"I'm sure Samsung will appeal on that point," said Mark Lemley, director of Stanford's Program in Law, Science and Technology and an IP litigator at Durie Tangri in San Francisco who has done work for Google Inc.
Quinn's tactics may have irked Koh, but his over-the-top entreaty about excluded evidence could help Samsung should it lose at trial, said Raymond Cardozo, an appellate specialist at Reed Smith in San Francisco. It's not enough to show an appeals court that the trial court made a mistake. Lawyers have to show that it was an outcome-changing mistake.
"The passion and the fervor with which he made the case that this evidence is crucial is helpful," Cardozo said. "When you are later arguing on appeal that this ruling was a complete game changer, it helps to show that's the way you behaved at the time."
But Samsung would also have to show that Koh's exclusion was an abuse of discretion. So far, her actions don't meet that standard, said appellate specialist Jerome Falk Jr., a partner at Arnold & Porter in San Francisco.
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Just guessing, but I'd wager that Apple has been caught stealing actual technology from competitors more than other companies have legitimately stolen from them as a whole.
They'll even go as far as suing a supermarket for using an apple for a logo. I understand protecting your IP, but Apple is ridiculous.
They'll even go as far as suing a supermarket for using an apple for a logo. I understand protecting your IP, but Apple is ridiculous.
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However you want to look at it and no matter who wins, consumers don't win in these patent disputes. Anyone who celebrates a single company winning is foolish
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Consumers don't win, so effing laughable. We are not the one's risking ANYTHING to come up with the patent to start with. Go start a business and when someone starts to do it the same way you do it, see if you don't call in some lawyers to protect what you started. That's blindly being a fool, that you wouldn't do so.
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Disney sue daycare centers for using their trademark characters. It's about protecting your property. But those born in the last 20-25 yrs just think because if it's on the internet everybody should be able to use if free of charge. Music, games, movies, software programs.
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Don't forge apple also won in South korea as well.
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Why didn't you look it up before making your arrogant post....
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Go buy your Samsung phone that becomes obsolete in six months when Samsung puts another one out.
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pinch to zoom for example, take that away from everyone but apple i think is stupid... that can be hit on anything from the microsoft surface table to any tablet.
I'm sure it will come too cars one day and apple can sue them
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Sony did it for many years when I was younger. I had many of their products as well, still have one of their SXRD TV's. Then they started releasing item that weren't so good. Or do shit like try and take over you computer when you inserted a music CD.
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its not the part for less innovation... i'm for innovation and while i dont know all the disputes and i'm sure i'd agree with some, but some things i dont think should have been patented, so i have more of a thing against the patent offices than apple and samsung.
pinch to zoom for example, take that away from everyone but apple i think is stupid... that can be hit on anything from the microsoft surface table to any tablet.
I'm sure it will come too cars one day and apple can sue them
pinch to zoom for example, take that away from everyone but apple i think is stupid... that can be hit on anything from the microsoft surface table to any tablet.
I'm sure it will come too cars one day and apple can sue them
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...a September 20th hearing will determine injunctions for Samsung’s infringing products. Apple will file its injunction requests by August 29th
Read more at http://9to5mac.com/2012/08/24/apple-...ehYEBv2Ox5D.99
Read more at http://9to5mac.com/2012/08/24/apple-...ehYEBv2Ox5D.99