wrayman

Hi all,

Soon time for a new clutch...I searched but have found no reference here to the EXEDY HCK1009 clutch kit for the '09's. Sold on Rockauto. Any experiences with the kit out there ? Thanks for any input.
Cheers M

justnspace

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I believe that is the OEM clutch.

wrayman

Hmm, thank you justnspace...I believe I'll order one !
Local dealer here quoted just under 3K all in. That's with factory parts and tax of course...but WOW !

BROlando

Exedy is not the OEM clutch, and its not anywhere near the same quality.

BUT....as long as you're not tracking the car or driving like a dummy, you should be fine.

There is still a chance of failure from the disk damper springs. And it will almost for sure make a small amount of noise on engagement or at idle.

The safest bet is to buy a whole clutch set from Honda. It can be bought at bernardiparts or curryacuraparts for cheaper than retail. I think FCC makes the disk and pressure plate.

If you do go with the exedy, definitely opt for an OEM Acura bearing set. And also buy high temp urea grease from Honda/Acura.

There isn't any other grease that I know of that you can substitute in for consistent results.

Don't use "bearing grease" or anti-seize (its not a lubricant for sliding parts).

The K24A2 has a seperate release bearing guide. Is it like that on the 2G trans? If so...buy a new Honda/Acura OEM release bearing guide.

wrayman

Excellent info BROlando, thank for the insights . Sent a message to curry and to my local dealer about a clutch set purchase. Price comparison should be interesting, one US dealer and one Canadian. I'm not a tracker, but depending on the definition of dummy...maybe ? LOL

BROlando

lol by "driving like a dummy", I meant things like not rev matching on downshifts and habitually holding the clutch down for longer than it takes to shift a gear.

The factory clutch tolerates that type of behaviour. Non factory ones often don't.

wrayman

LOL, Yeah, I hear ya. The aftermarket kit should be fine . I WOULD like to buy factory parts and avoid the heavy dealer labour costs. I tried the Curry option but they don't ship to Canada. My local dealer sent the below breakdown for parts/cost. My flywheel can be resurfaced, so not included.
PRESSURE PLATE $311.44

FRICTION DISK $183.56

PILOT BEARING $13.32

RELEASE BEARING $81.58

BROlando

From experience, the Exedy kit is *ok* for the K series.

I have been using one in my 1st gen TSX for ~70k miles now and it doesn't show any signs of slip or failure.

To be fair, I have driven it aggressively a handful of times and also zinged it on an accidental downshift.

Only things I've noted are noise on engagement (loose damper springs), which is common. And the noise doesn't bother me. It sounds like a click or a chatter every time I shift gears or engage the clutch.

Feel is fine. But noise is there.

From what I remember, I even used the same bearing that came with the kit (!!!!!) like a fu#$ing maniac.

I am using a DC5 (K20A) version with the K20A flywheel. I wasn't a fan of the K24 clutch feel, and the K20A clutch is cheaper, and the flywheel can be surfaced easily. The K20 clutch isn't meant to handle the extra K24 power/torque...but mine does so beautifully even after 70K.

I say all this cautiously. I had good luck. Some people don't. Its not an OEM part....so...its a gamble. I rolled the dice because I can happily do my own labour if it fails.

I had an excellent independent shop do the labour the first time with parts that I supplied. I was going to do it myself, but....long story.

Safest bet is OEM. The Exedy (or any aftermarket) is a less "sure thing"....but you might be ok.

wrayman

After 70K miles, gotta give you some confidence in the Exedy.
The noise wouldn't bother me, as I listen to the stereo a bit enthusiastically, LOL
I'm not blessed with advanced mechanical aptitude. I DO have a trusted long term shop who can do the work. My symptoms are a randomly noisy throw out bearing, and minor shift difficulty at higher revs. I'll likely get the parts and try and wait out the winter. A new clutch for spring and summer would give me a kick after the winter hibernation.
Zoom Zoom....yeah, I know that's Mazda talk, LOL

BROlando

Difficulty shifting at higher revs can probably be cured by a master cylinder preload adjustment.

Is there a lot of freeplay/slop before the pedal starts to actively disengage the clutch? Like....when you push the pedal, is there a bunch of slop first?

The TSX clutch doesn't favour shifting at high RPM. A lot of people kill their synchros trying to shift fast at high RPM.

That's why I used the K20A clutch/flywheel. Not that I'm out banging gears every day. But the K20A setup makes it much easier.

And what I was saying about Exedy is that I have had good enough luck. BUT other people have had failures. The cautionary statement is that it *should* be ok. But don't take my experience to mean that yours will be ok. Its not an OEM part.

wrayman

[QUOTE][Is there a lot of freeplay/slop before the pedal starts to actively disengage the clutch? Like....when you push the pedal, is there a bunch of slop first?/QUOTE]

No, the pedal still feels quite solid, no slippage. Had the car out this am, and shifting was smooth. Drove normally, with a few medium rev shifts here and there...she was good.
I'll do a bit of research on the K20A parts, cause I do like to wind it out on occasion.
Again, thanks for the input !
M

BROlando

K20A/K20Z 6spd flywheel.
K20A/Z 6spd clutch kit.

That was my list. Someone else on this forum did the same thing to a 2G TSX as well.

wrayman

I'm going to buy parts from Acura and have my shop install. I'm willing to spring for that to get good quality parts. Not sure how long I can run with the noisy throw out bearing, but once it's louder than morning Motorhead...time to go ! LOL

Thanks for the great info, mucho appreciated..!