Sony: PS3 News and Discussion Thread
05-18-2005, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
Oh really???
"Last week at an Intel analysts meeting, CEO Paul Otellini reportedly demonstrated a computer running the Windows XP operating system based on what Intel said was a 65-nm version of its Pentium processor."
http://www.crn.com/sections/breaking...cleId=55800608
It's not in mass production, but Intel has samples of their chips running on the .65 process.
The core chip of the Cell is a Power-PC PPU. The PowerPC processor has had a very difficult time ramping up in clock speed (look at the G5 for the past few years) and it would require a significant redesign to achieve speeds well above the 4ghz mark, regardless if it's a .90 or .65 chip.
"Last week at an Intel analysts meeting, CEO Paul Otellini reportedly demonstrated a computer running the Windows XP operating system based on what Intel said was a 65-nm version of its Pentium processor."
http://www.crn.com/sections/breaking...cleId=55800608
It's not in mass production, but Intel has samples of their chips running on the .65 process.
The core chip of the Cell is a Power-PC PPU. The PowerPC processor has had a very difficult time ramping up in clock speed (look at the G5 for the past few years) and it would require a significant redesign to achieve speeds well above the 4ghz mark, regardless if it's a .90 or .65 chip.
intel showing off an engineering sample is a far far cry from shipping a product. also notice how it doesnt say pentium4 
intel publicly demonstrated a 4ghz pentium a couple years ago, and they demonstrated ALU units running at 10ghz. Doesn't mean shit in terms of what will actually show up in the marketplace. The main core of cell is BASED off ibm's latest powerpc chip found in the g5 macs. it is not the same core. They stripped out parts they didnt need and gee, they can get it to run at 3.2ghz while the fatest shipping macs are just starting to ship at 2.5ghz. So it has been significantly redesigned in order to fit it to cells needs. To say that just because the g5's cant hit 4ghz means that cell cant is pretty silly. And saying that 65nm intel cpu's cant hit above 3.6ghz is utterly absurd when only engineering samples of 65nm cpu's exist at this point. And since you completely missed the point of my last post, the manufacturing process is not necessarily the limiting factor in clockspeed. architecture plays a just as important, if not a bigger role in limiting clock speed of a core.
05-18-2005, 03:11 PM
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really.. i dunno how itd work unless they include the old plugs for the DS2 controller, OHH now i know why they're changing the controller wasnt Sony sued by some company for using their game vibration technology or something?
WTF where did your post go srika???
WTF where did your post go srika???
05-18-2005, 03:12 PM
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btw there is some new evidence that the PS2's DS2 controller will be compatible (somehow) with the PS3... good news.
http://www.ircspy.com/comments.asp?mode=view&id=3035
full pics, videos, and general infos for the following games:
Unreal Tournament 2007
Vision GT
Eyedentify
Fifth Phantom Saga
I-8
Final Fantasy Next
NioH
Fight Night Round 3
The Getaway 3
Killing Day
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Motorstorm
Mobile Suit Gundam
Heavenly Sword
Formula One PS3
Killzone Next-Gen
Tekken Next
"Old West Game" (Untitled Rockstar Project)
Warhawk PS3
Devil May Cry 4
check it out.
http://www.ircspy.com/comments.asp?mode=view&id=3035
full pics, videos, and general infos for the following games:
Unreal Tournament 2007
Vision GT
Eyedentify
Fifth Phantom Saga
I-8
Final Fantasy Next
NioH
Fight Night Round 3
The Getaway 3
Killing Day
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Motorstorm
Mobile Suit Gundam
Heavenly Sword
Formula One PS3
Killzone Next-Gen
Tekken Next
"Old West Game" (Untitled Rockstar Project)
Warhawk PS3
Devil May Cry 4
check it out.
05-18-2005, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
really.. i dunno how itd work unless they include the old plugs for the DS2 controller, OHH now i know why they're changing the controller wasnt Sony sued by some company for using their game vibration technology or something?
WTF where did your post go srika???
WTF where did your post go srika???
05-18-2005, 03:14 PM
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i see
05-18-2005, 03:15 PM
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OMG there is a SHITLOAD of high-res QT videos to download at the video links posted at the ircspy link above... happy downloading and viewing!!!!!
x 11 billion
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05-18-2005, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
PS3 may include the option of being a full-featured portable outdoor grill. More details as they become available.
bahahahah
+1 point for the fanboy
05-18-2005, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bkknight369
bahahahah
+1 point for the fanboy
+1 point for the fanboy
05-18-2005, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
OMG! It's XBOX huge! 
05-18-2005, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Well I can, but why bother?
05-18-2005, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by farberstyle
repizzle
and damn i'm hungry now.
05-18-2005, 05:59 PM
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damn, looks like some moderashionz going on. it's tough with these PS3 threads, there's one for GT5 screenshots and video, one for specs, one for MGS4, and a general next generation PS3 thread.... which one would a BBQ mod go under???
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05-19-2005, 02:25 PM
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great system comparison chart here...
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-S...tures_headline
look at the removable media options on PS3. Compact Flash compatibility on a Sony device? Who would have ever thought. Ridiculous. SD? Memory Stick? The specs on the damn thing read like the specs of a myriad of various electronic devices. 6 USB 2.0 ports? 2 HDMI outputs that can be run simultaneously? wtf this thing is not a gaming machine, its like, Godzirra. Part XXIII2.
All of those options and hardware specs are all fine and dandy to look at - but the reason I think the PS3 is going to ultimately win the battle is because of its game media format. Blu-Ray. We are talking about 54gb vs 9gb. I think ultimately the 9gb will become a limitation for Xbox 360. If any developer is able to max out the 54gb on a Blu-Ray disc for PS3, they are insane. But what it means is, developers will not have any restraints or limitations with the PS3. With the Xbox, they will have to keep that 9gb in the back of their heads and develop thereof.
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-S...tures_headline
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-S...tures_headline
look at the removable media options on PS3. Compact Flash compatibility on a Sony device? Who would have ever thought. Ridiculous. SD? Memory Stick? The specs on the damn thing read like the specs of a myriad of various electronic devices. 6 USB 2.0 ports? 2 HDMI outputs that can be run simultaneously? wtf this thing is not a gaming machine, its like, Godzirra. Part XXIII2.
All of those options and hardware specs are all fine and dandy to look at - but the reason I think the PS3 is going to ultimately win the battle is because of its game media format. Blu-Ray. We are talking about 54gb vs 9gb. I think ultimately the 9gb will become a limitation for Xbox 360. If any developer is able to max out the 54gb on a Blu-Ray disc for PS3, they are insane. But what it means is, developers will not have any restraints or limitations with the PS3. With the Xbox, they will have to keep that 9gb in the back of their heads and develop thereof.
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-S...tures_headline
05-19-2005, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
Sony is currently unveiling the specs of the PS3. Here's what was shown so far:
Blu-Ray Disc support
2.5 inch detachable HDD
Up to 7 Bluetooth controllers
6 USB ports
1 3.2 ghz Cell Processor
256MB RAM XDR RAM
256MB RAM GDDR VRAM
GPU - NVidia RSX
Multimedia Features (video chat, internet access, digital photography, digital audio, video)
Blu-Ray Disc support
2.5 inch detachable HDD
Up to 7 Bluetooth controllers
6 USB ports
1 3.2 ghz Cell Processor
256MB RAM XDR RAM
256MB RAM GDDR VRAM
GPU - NVidia RSX
Multimedia Features (video chat, internet access, digital photography, digital audio, video)
I think I just spewed some man sauce
05-19-2005, 03:29 PM
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Grilled Chicken & Blu-Ray...who knew
05-19-2005, 03:42 PM
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demo of Dual HD uses and function.
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05-19-2005, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
come up with something better than that........Better?
05-19-2005, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
And your wallet.
05-19-2005, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Okay, how about raving about a feature that will be used by less than 1% of their total market, but probably demoed by Sony for release and used by fanboys to show PS3 superiority?
Better?
Better?
Anybody who is following the progress of PS3 or Xbox 360 at this juncture in the game are almost certainly fanboys, already. The non-gamers who have Xbox are not going to be reading this thread...
But JUST to entertain your request, I think it's great that PS3 comes with built-in Wi-fi and Bluetooth, as daily life seems to gravitate steadily towards a wireless frontier.
05-19-2005, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
You obviously missed the intent.
Oh, and 400GB>54GB. PC OWNZ0RZ T3H LAMESTATION!
Oh, and 400GB>54GB. PC OWNZ0RZ T3H LAMESTATION!
05-19-2005, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Okay, how about raving about a feature that will be used by less than 1% of their total market, but probably demoed by Sony for release and used by fanboys to show PS3 superiority?
Better?
Better?
05-19-2005, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
You obviously missed the intent.
Oh, and 400GB>54GB. PC OWNZ0RZ T3H LAMESTATION!
Oh, and 400GB>54GB. PC OWNZ0RZ T3H LAMESTATION!
05-19-2005, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
btw you sure live awfully close to Redmond, WA.... comparatively speaking.
Still, either way, good time to be a gamer. I personally plan on getting an XBox 360 (more my style of games). I think the real winner in this battle will be the one with the best games. Just look at the PS2 and XBox battle. PS2 came out earlier AND had a better selection of games, even with inferior hardware.
Still, with my new HDTV and XBox 360 purchase this fall, I may not post for a while.
I'm REALLY interested in finally getting "free" MSAA from the ATi chip in the new XBox. That will be a blessing. Plus the "mandatory" 720p or above request from MS is also good.
05-19-2005, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
m$ has 400gb DVD????? 
05-19-2005, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Hehe. Yup. Even been in the XBox offices with the life size Master Chief styrofoam statue.
Still, either way, good time to be a gamer. I personally plan on getting an XBox 360 (more my style of games). I think the real winner in this battle will be the one with the best games. Just look at the PS2 and XBox battle. PS2 came out earlier AND had a better selection of games, even with inferior hardware.
Still, with my new HDTV and XBox 360 purchase this fall, I may not post for a while.
I'm REALLY interested in finally getting "free" MSAA from the ATi chip in the new XBox. That will be a blessing. Plus the "mandatory" 720p or above request from MS is also good.
Still, either way, good time to be a gamer. I personally plan on getting an XBox 360 (more my style of games). I think the real winner in this battle will be the one with the best games. Just look at the PS2 and XBox battle. PS2 came out earlier AND had a better selection of games, even with inferior hardware.
Still, with my new HDTV and XBox 360 purchase this fall, I may not post for a while.
I'm REALLY interested in finally getting "free" MSAA from the ATi chip in the new XBox. That will be a blessing. Plus the "mandatory" 720p or above request from MS is also good.
05-19-2005, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
yeah if I lived that close to MSoft I would be careful what I say too. don't want Billy beating down my door, when I least expect it...
