Yumcha

Dude. You are missing out. The collection is being released and you can also pick up Guns of Patriots for cheap since that has been out on the PS3/360 for awhile.

Undying Dreams

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Yum-chaaaaaa!

How far have you gotten?!

Yumcha

Just escaped the Pittsburgh and going through the sewers near the beach.

Just started the sewers stage though...and I'm having bad memories of the hotel basement again. There better not be more of that.

Undying Dreams

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You're so ffffffuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhked.

It's not as bad.

Yumcha

I'm miffed that there are no characters.

Undying Dreams

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It's wasis, I killed so many black dudes it wasn't even funny. I'm like, wtf, everyone I strangle to death is black!

Yumcha

I know, Joel is so racist.

I mean, if they wanted to be more politically correct, Ellie should've been , , or , or ...

Yumcha

And...there are no bad guys! Like, let's see you do a stealth choke on a guy who knows ...

You'd get flipped over on your @$$.

Yumcha

I'm returning this game now. Angry that they are discriminating.


Gonna write Naughty Dog an angry letter.

Undying Dreams

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Elle has such a white girl attitude though, I grew to like her too lol her voice and attitude match.

Yumcha

BTW, just curious, do I have alot of hours left in the game? Am I past the half-way point...?

Liking the experience so far. Great game.

Undying Dreams

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You still have a little ways.

I put 12 hours into my first play-through.

Yumcha

Well, the just offed his little bro and then offed himself.




Anyhow, yesterday's scenario was good...intense...but, good. The zombie attack in the sewers was fun but things got serious against the sniper and etc. I was so happy when I stabbed him to death.

Undying Dreams

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lol nice

I played a little yesterday too. I got to the building with the "hunters" and I went to take a nap and passed the F out at like 7:30.

Yumcha

Yumcha

Finished the game finally yesterday. Wow, what an ending...what an emotionally engaging game. This title deserves all the accolades and I can now see why it got the scores that it did. Outstanding.

I noticed that the ending was similar to the beginning except that Joel comes out of it a happy and not in the emotional grave with losing his daughter. Just like the beginning, he carries his girl as he's fleeing...but, this time, he shoots and stops the obstacle between him and daylight. Not sure if Ellie believes his lie, though...but, I think she may understand why he did what he did.


The scenario with David and the cannibals was intense.

Anyhow, GREAT game. I will take a few days break but probably replay it. I need to find more Firefly necklaces. I was lucky to locate all the comics and find all the items though.

Rick_TL-S

Ellie doesnt believe it but she accepts it for various reasons.

Yumcha

Was David supposed to be implied as a pedophile?

Rick_TL-S

According to his voice actor, yes.

Very gutsy move (after the Tomb Raider "controversy"), but extremely well executed by Naughty Dog to imply David's intentions before Ellie finishes him.

BeezleTL85

I need to get after it and finish this game. Maybe a few hours of play today

Yumcha

So, did Joel do the right thing? And what would you do if you were in Joel's situation...?

Marlene and Joel are essentially both Ellie's "parents"...both making very difficult decisions based on very different perspectives/values...

Rick_TL-S

It depends on how you view it. The ending by Naughty Dog was originally intended to show Ellie & Joel living on in the town, to show that Ellie accepted Joel's lie & act like nothing happened. However, they came to the conclusion that Ellie was a smart kid & wanted the player to draw up their own conclusions afterwards as Ellie accepting the lie was not the same as believing it.

Personally, for humanity's sake, Joel probably didn't do the right thing. But, from what was shown in the game of how humans lived in 2033, I think the standards & morals of humanity (as we see them today) were so far gone that a cure would not necessarily bring any peace to the world; the hunters & killings would probably continue without the fear of any more Infected appearing. It would probably take many, many years, possibly beyond Joel's remaining life for humanity to return to how it was before the outbreak.

In Joel's situation, taking everything that happened to him in consideration, I would have done the same. It was clear after David that Ellie had become his "daughter" (baby girl) & Joel's line at the end, "You keep finding something to fight for" is a reference to Ellie herself. And if you watch when he says that, he looks down at his watch that Sarah had given him. Joel would probably not have been able to cope with losing Ellie as it would probably feel like losing Sarah again. Adding to that, Joel had even told Ellie they don't have to go to the hospital, showing his initial fear that he may possibly lose her.


It's just an interesting ending because you make of what happens next at your own will. The only thing the game outlines is that Joel has his selfish reasons for saving Ellie because she keeps him alive, whilst Ellie accepts Joel's lie because she doesn't want to be alone & would be scared with anyone but Joel protecting her.

Damn Yummy, you're making me want to play through it again.

Yumcha

^ Nicely thought out reply.


Yeah, great game. Storyline is nothing short of outstanding...drawing on aspects that made me a huge fan of "The Walking Dead" series. Joel is an interesting "hero"...or even anti-hero. On one hand, he's a brutal man...a person who lost his humanity to survive in a nutty world...he has implied that he was on the side of the hunters before and even his smuggling trade has it's dark aspects.

The fact that he does not flinch in committing any of his atrocities when interrogating also shows how far he has gone.


Then, you contrast all of that with the devotion and care that he shows Ellie.

Yumcha

Aight. Loved the game so much I started to replay it last night as a Plus game.

So, carrying-over my skills and abilities. Will try to find all the Firefly medals this round. And also, I intend to kill all the infected in the hotel basement this time.


I say that now...but, watch me like a headless chicken again when I hit that stage.

Undying Dreams

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How's the New Game+ working out? I started over too. So nice having upgrades early in the game.

Yumcha

Going great. I've made it to Salt Lake City. Joel is fully maxed out and I have found a few other things I missed the first time round.


And oh, I killed all the zombie bastards in the hotel basement. This time, I had enough ammo and knew what was going to happen instead of -ing like a headless chicken crying for my Mommy.

Undying Dreams

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Congrats!

I only made it to the city. Last I remember I was in the hotel, after you pass through the library with all those hoodlums.

Yumcha

The stages with Ellie still required some re-tries on the second time through...

When she's taking on the zombie attacks in the old factory with David (particularly the scene with the fat@$$ zombie "boss"), took a few tries.

Undying Dreams

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Omg I hate those big guys.

It took me like 20 minutes to finally figure out I HAD to kill them in the tunnel.

Oh and then another like...10 minutes to kill all the infected and then them. USE ALL THE AMMO!!

Rick_TL-S

The 3 Bloaters in the tunnel can be avoided....How, I don't know, but that's what I've been reading. I only managed to avoid 1.

Undying Dreams

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I avoided the first one. That next segment had me really confused. I ran past all the infected and it wouldn't let me press triangle to jump up on the semi trailer. The button showed up on screen but was darkened.

Yumcha

The formula for Bloaters is easy: Molotov cocktail and then followed by a couple of shots from an armor piercing gun.

If you don't have a gun that can do that, toss a nail bomb after the Molotov cocktail.

Yumcha

What...

Okay...this is a weird one. Here's a game bug for you guys. I encountered only 4 zombies in the SLC tunnel in my first walkthrough of the game. And those 4 were stalker/runners...NO BLOATERS.


So, if there is supposed to be THREE Bloaters in that tunnel...this is something I have yet to encounter.

Fark.

Undying Dreams

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Are you playing on Easy?!

Yumcha

Nope. Normal.





Anyhow, finished the game last night. And I did encounter the hoard in the tunnel this time. Killed them all. I was able to stealth kill the first 2 batches...but, the last one with the 2 Bloaters was tough. Stupid Ellie started to fire when I lobbed a nice cocktail into a group which gave away our position.

But, after sprinting around in erratic circles to shake off the chasing, I was able to finish off the group.

Anyhow, I'll give the game a break and play again on Hard next.



Still loved it lots the second time...although, I took a more Rambo approach.

MrLogan13

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Best game I've played in a long time. The story was great, and I loved the moral ambiguity of the characters' decisions. Joel and Ellie are among the best characters in a game; great character development, compelling material, and great character-driven story.

MrLogan13

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The hoard in the tunnel was pretty tough, and required a lot of patience to sneak past. lol

Yumcha

Less so than sneaking past the soldiers at the hospital. The first two batches were just inactive Runners and Clickers (with one lone Bloater). So, pretty easy...Use the bow/arrow for the inactive Runners and then sneak-up-and-stabs for the Clickers.

For the lone Bloater, a nicely placed cocktail followed by a shot or two of the rifle did the trick.



The problem with the 3rd batch was there were 2 Bloaters...again, the inactive Runners were easy. I also took care of a Clicker that circled away from the group as I was hugging the right-side of the tunnel.

The problem was when I hucked the cocktail between the 2 Bloaters and the inactive Clicker...Ellie started to shoot and well, that woke up the other inactive Runners (near the group) and there went my plan.


Oh well, I survived. It was fun.

Undying Dreams

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Kicked some ass the other night! Got through the basement of that hell hole of a hotel and then got as far as meeting Henry & Sam.

Yumcha

What mode are you playing, WD?