iforyou

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Lol those buses you are talking about must be short!!! I thought one bus is like 2.5 cars haha!

Bearcat94

:lol:

meh, I guessedimated a bus at ~30 feet.

TL|GTX wouldn't know the difference anyhow.

bruce.augenstein@comcast.

Updating that a bit, assuming the 15.3 car has an average speed for that last second of about 90 mph before it crosses the line, you're looking at 132 feet between the two vehicles when the first car crosses the line, or about eight car lengths.

Bruce

RUF87

Well all my mods are in and the tracks closed for the season and will have to wait until spring.

I did just have my 2nd tranny replaced this week and got to drive an 08 TL. It felt real peppy and even felt like it had more torque. So I did a couple of 45-70 test run on a little section of road I use to test my 02 TLS. I was really surprised at the results as they were not what I expected.

The 08 TL posted 5.3 and 5.4 seconds and for the 02 TLS . . 3.7 and 3.5 seconds! I had someone with a stop watch (so yes a rider and more weight ) and did 2 runs for some consistency.

I'm really surprised as I would not have guessed there was about 2 secs difference. I can't wait to get to the track if that's the case. I can say the new tranny shifts like shit. Does anyone know what the 08 does in the quarter?

Ruf

02 WDP TLS Black Interior w/ Black Grill Inserts
**1/4mile 14.46 @96.07MPH
(**before headers, CAT, IMMs & BBTBs and tranny #3)
17x7 Konig Appeals SMF -
P225/45ZR-17 Bridgestone RE960 AS
(used Ziex 512s track only)
CT Icebox, RamAir, Sways & Springs
3nd Gen Innovative Motor Mounts
BBTBs, Mugen Cooling Mods & Thermoblok
Ceramic Coated XS Headers & Random-Tech CAT
NEO Anti Freeze & 5w-20 oil
Tranny #3 Installed 11.17.2008

peternguyen504

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tein basics coilovers w/ stock tl-s wheels

as for tires: stock michelin pilots in the rear and general exclaim uhp in the front

UPDATE After Full RV6 bolt-ons

i know i could of ran 13.9 but shifting with automatic sucks with the limiter bcuz i notice that

the perfect shift is at the second red bar right before the limiter but im still satisfied with 14.02

dr_brains510

Awesome time bro . I'm waiting to get my rv6 pre-cats installed along with my motor mounts and with my current mods, I hope to break 13's!

anx1300c

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Very nice!

So what was different, mod wise, from the 14.20's @ 99? You had the J and Test pipes then, right?

iforyou

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Awesome, looks like you are not too far away from the 13's! Keep it up!

peternguyen504

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the precat deletes

the run w/ 14.2 was with atlp jpipe and test

anx1300c

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So were the weather conditions similar? If they were, that means you picked up an honest 2mph from just the pre-cats, which is about what I had been guessing them to be good for. Awesome mod for the $.

Sonnick

^^ An increase of 2mph in the trap speed from just the deletes is awesome. He doesn't even have full exhaust to get the most out of it, which means maybe a full 3-4mph with a FULL exhaust (including jpipe which he already has).

His 60' were very close too making these numbers even more truthful. That timeslip should finally show that the precat deletes do NOT cause a loss in low end when coupled with the jpipe. If it did, I would think the 330' and 1/8th would have been slower, but they were indeed a good deal faster. Good job.

ILLustriousUA6

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Hey peter, what were the weather conditions like?

What track were you on?

And Impressive numbers for an AUTO TL-S!!!!

how did you manage to get a 2.1 60' foot? My best was a high 2.3..

did u brake-torque by any chance? and are the TL-S auto's LSD as well?

dr_brains510

No. I believe only the 6MTs have LSD but the 5ATs lack that feature.

ILLustriousUA6

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2.1 60 foot is amazing on an auto FWD....

anx1300c

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A 2.18 is certainly good with an auto, but there are some guys pulling lower 2.10's with 6MTs which is even more impressive!

peternguyen504

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Hey peter, what were the weather conditions like?

yeah pretty much the same cold and dry @ around 43 degrees and no rain that day

What track were you on?

no problem raceway

And Impressive numbers for an AUTO TL-S!!!!

how did you manage to get a 2.1 60' foot? My best was a high 2.3..

did u brake-torque by any chance? and are the TL-S auto's LSD as well?

yea i switch it up sometimes though bcuz i do the burnout so my tires can warm up
it is good to do the brake torque for the first couple runs but after that the tires get so much grip that my car launch slow bcuz the front tires pull the weight of my car( if you watch my youtube vid you can see what im talkin about, just type in tl vs motorcycle)
so after the first couple runs i dont do brake torque unless i feel i have to
believe or not the run i did with the 14.0 was my first run and after that i was just hittin the 14.1 and 14.2



FYI : for good grip on the tires lower the psi when you get to the track( i put mines @ about 33 or 34, it will help depending on the size of your tires you have but not with low profile tires


question: did i break a record for the fastest 1/4 time for a 3g auto tl-s ?

dr_brains510

answer: well, you are like one of three or four ppl who have tracked their 3G 5AT TLS. Out of that group, yes you are the fastest...so far

Bearcat94

14.0 = Excellent time.

13's are there for you.

I'm getting better tires this week-end. Just Pilot Sport AS, but they'll be TONS better than the MXM4's. I'm sure I can match your 14.2's, maybe a little better.

F23A4

That's what I was told when my 02 Maxima 4at posted a 2.169.

Good job on your runs Peter.

Bearcat94

http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-TL-Timeslip-17247.html

Sonnick

Look how much it weighs with the driver...4125LBS. That's just silly. Say the driver weighs a solid 200lbs, that's 3915lbs....wow.

iforyou

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That's the time you'd get if you do brake torquing. A lot of people don't know about this, even car mags, but if you do brake torque in the new TL SH-AWD, it will automatically starts in 2nd gear, even if you select first gear. Obviously this will cause a delay and slow you down big time. One of our members actually managed to get mid 14's in his TL SH-AWD with the 19" rims. With 17" rims, he got a even faster time. Check the 4G forum.

dr_brains510

Well the other member didn't track his car; he used a program from his phone. I much rather believe an actual track time rather than the Iphone program; no matter how accurate people say it is.

TL|GTX

I have the the regular mich's mx4 what is it better to have lower psi in both tires, or just front tires or the other way around?

Bearcat94

Wrong Thread (no surprise) -

Drag Racing TIPS is the other thread, but you actually have to *read* it -

Bearcat94

Well, that gives some explanation to the poor showing.

iforyou

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lol ya, he used dynolicious, but I guess you get my point right...he tried brake torquing, and his 0-60mph time is 1 second slower. I'd imagine you have seen the videos already?

RUF87

well . . . still looking to see where I stashed my time slips . . I think the wifey tossed them . .

anyway, I did log them in a file, so for what it's worth here's a look at some runs I made back in May of 2006. I'm really hoping to make another trip in the spring.

May 12th Motorplex Meet Temps were in the low 70s with humidity about 46%

R/T 60' 330' 1/8 1/8 mph 1000' 1/4 1/4 mile Comments
0.780 2.226 6.143 9.345 76.96 12.125 14.462 96.07 Mild wheel hop
0.878 2.201 6.134 9.352 76.21 12.150 14.503 95.64 Mild wheel hop
0.795 2.236 6.162 9.372 76.69 12.161 14.504 95.86 Mild wheel hop
0.983 2.246 6.170 9.381 76.84 12.167 14.510 95.83 A good amount of wheel hop
0.765 2.239 6.167 9.376 76.72 12.165 14.512 95.71 A good amount of wheel hop
0.946 2.221 6.166 9.391 76.24 12.198 14.557 95.27 Mild wheel hop
0.723 2.287 6.220 9.435 76.79 12.221 14.563 96.01 Bad wheel hop
0.771 2.227 6.192 9.422 76.43 12.220 14.569 95.71 Mild wheel hop
0.713 2.224 6.170 9.406 75.82 12.226 14.597 94.92 Mild wheel hop
0.728 2.255 6.225 9.461 76.11 12.269 14.627 95.31 A good amount of wheel hop

Average of 10 runs
0.808 2.236 6.175 9.394 76.481 12.190 14.540 95.633


Ruf

xejshinex

OMP Prelude..damn...that's damn fast...very nice job man...
any plan on breakin 13s?

OMP Prelude

Yup hopefully this season some time

iforyou

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OMP prelude I think I've seen your TL a few times.

Do you think you can beat types-09 in both ET and trap speed?

anx1300c

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Did Type-S ever get some tires and run again? I think he was ~13.2 @ 107 on street tires last I knew.

TylerT

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I don't think he got his car fixed yet.

khakivu

Went to the track with my '04 NBP TL 6MT here at the Orlando Speed World last night. First time taking the TL to the track. Only mod is a Fujita CAI on stock Type-S wheels. Temperature was in the high 50's. My second run was the best all night.

60' = 2.395
330 = 6.408
1/8 = 9.585 @ 78.13
1/4 = 14.545 @ 98.10

I was racing my friend with a '07 VW GTI 6MT 2.0T (chipped & full turbo back exhaust).
I barely beat him. His fastest time was a 14.578 @ 96.92.

alexSU

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Good job dude! That's a pretty high trap speed

iforyou

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Nice! Seems like if you have some better tires and/or better launch you will be in the low 14's!

ILLustriousUA6

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sweet numbers khaki!!! I wish i had a 6MT =\

For sure you can lower that 60' bu .2 secs with better tires..

SO I have a question.. what's the best street tires to race with? I used to run with the stockies and they were pretty good, got me the 14.7 with just intake alone.

And then I bought some Falken FK452's 245/45/17's for the stockies and went back and only ran a 14.9 with Intake/exhaust.. pretty embarassing. But all I have to say is that those tires stick to the goddam ground like crazy. I got no wheel spin whatsoever... And I felt as if my bottom end was struggling to move, but it was so grippy that it just took off.. I felt better with the stockies that i had on in the previous runs.. I did a very little 1/2 sec. burn out and it just hooked, whereas the FK452's just grip frmo the start with no "hook" feeling if you guys get what i mean.


Anywho. I'm goin back to the track soon with the cool weather and this may be my last time goin to the track and I will be taking off the backseats and rear spare tire, making it as light as possible. Goal is to hit 14.6. I still have the fk452's as well. Let's just hope for the best. I will update before i head to the track, which is like a 2-3 hour drive... =)

Bearcat94

Z-Max 3-5-09. ~60 degrees.

14.4 @ ~98 (twice).

Mods: UR Pulley, H&R Sport Springs, ATLP J-Pipe, Progress RSB, Slotted Fronts, ET500 Pads & SS Brake Lines, Fujita F5, P2R Spacer & Gaskets, "Stage 3" Exhaust, Coolant Bypass, Weight Reduction (spare and tool kit, floor mats, OM, misc junk). Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus 245/45-17.

Run 1:




Run 2:




Last year, similar conditions, with only Springs, RSB, P2R Spacer and Gaskets and same weight reduction on stock Michelin MXM4 tires I ran 14.37 @ 97.12.

Makes no sense to add those mods and run slower, except that the track was slower (Rockingham vs Z-Max). peternguyen504 ran 14.2x with similar mods and similar car.


BTW - the Page 1 compilation needs to be updated with all the new times/runs.


.

ILLustriousUA6

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MODS, PLease UPDATE FIRST POST PLEASE, THANKS

When it says CONFIRMED, it is proof that the person showed their time slip.

Enjoy, I took hours to gather this info. If some of these "???" beling to you guys, let me know or a mod to change it.



07-08 3rd Gen Acura TL Type-S - N/A

=6 M/T=

--bruce.augenstein@comcast. - 14.07 @ 99.15 - BONE STOCK
60' - 2.25

--??? - 14.24 @ 97.9 - (AEM and Comptech S/S catback)

--SleeperPnoy04 - 14.14 @ 98.56 - (Short ram intake//stock resonator delete) - CONFIRMED
60' - 2.298

--mr.almeida - 14.6 @ ??? - ( Bone stock with 19" Volk progressiv ME's)

=5 A/T=

--peternguyen504 - 14.020 @ 101.77 mph - (Full RV6 bolt ons +tein basics) - CONFIRMED

--peternguyen504 - 14.2 @ 99.6 mph - (j/test pipe, ur pulley, stage 3 exhaust, cai intake, tb spacer, w/ general exclaim uhp

ultra high performance tires.. plus jl w7 in the trunk saggin') - CONFIRMED
60' - 2.20

--Bearcat94 - 14.374 @ 97.12 mph - (Stock Wheels and Tires (MXM4's), P2R Throttle Body Spacer and H&R Sports) - CONFIRMED
60' - 2.230

--Bearcat94 - 14.439 @ 98.31 mph - (UR Pulley, H&R Sport Springs, ATLP J-Pipe, Progress RSB, Slotted Fronts, ET500

Pads & SS Brake Lines, Fujita F5, P2R Spacer & Gaskets, "Stage 3" Exhaust, Coolant Bypass, Weight Reduction (spare and

tool kit, floor mats, OM, misc junk). Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus 245/45-17). CONFIRMED
60' - 2.258


--MVR 155 - 14.540 @ 97.23 mph - (Bone Stock)
60' - 2.217

--??? - 16.205 @ 86.283 mph

--??? - 14.85



04+ 3rd Gen Acura TL S/C

=6 M/T=

--OMP Prelude - 13.1 @ 105.48 - (S/C, thermo spacers, pro-cats,custom 3in exhuast, cold air in take, running bridgestone

re030 17in ,and comptech ss,mugen thermostat and rad cap)

--Ryan97812 - 13.50 @ 103.47 3690 LBS (Comptech S/C // Comptech Cat Back // Cor Sport shifter bushings) -

CONFIRMED


=5 A/T=

--ACCURATEin - 14.479 @ 99.16 - (s/c, took out the sub and box, spare tire, back seat, floor mats, sparcos) -

CONFIRMED
60' - 2.352
60 deg. weather
50% humidity


04+ 3rd Gen Acura TL - N/A

=6 M/T=

--OMP Prelude - 13.70@101.63 - (thermo spacers, pro-cats,custom 3in exhuast, cold air in take, running bridgestone re030

17in ,and comptech ss,mugen thermostat and rad cap) - CONFIRMED with video

--type-s09 - 13.968 @ 99.14 - (Intake//P2R spacer w/ 17' street tires) - CONFIRMED with timeslip + video
60'- 2.166

--The MainEvEnt - 14.24 @ 103 - (Comptech Exhaust w/o resonator, AEM CAI, Comptech sports Spring, Comptech Rear

Sway Bar)

--PIERCE@ACURA-O.P. - 14.258 @ 97.91 - (Injen CAI, Comptech exhaust) - CONFIRMED
60' - 2.204

--Accuratein - 14.4 at 102mph - ( A lot of mods)
60' - 2.44

--05TL*6-SPEED* - 14.51 @ 98.71 - (Bone stock)
60' - 2.4

--khakivu - 14.545 @ 98.10 - (Fujita CAI on stock Type-S wheels)
60' - 2.395

--??? - 14.3 @ 99mph - (19 inch rims)
14.1 @ 101mph - (stock rims)

--??? - 14.01 @ 99.3 mph (stock wheels, AVS ES100 tires, intake & custom exhaust)

--mrbrett - 14.66 @ 97.73 - (???)
60' - 2.4

=5 A/T=

--againstallodds1 - 14.30 @ 99.3 - (a-spec, AEM CAI, comptech catback, UR pulley) - CONFIRMED
60' - 2.20
0-60 - 5.68

--AcuraTLboi - 14.738 @ 97.207 - (Intake w/ 17' stock street tires) - CONFIRMED with timeslip
60' - 2.391 (60 deg. Temp)

--email_33 - 14.6 @ 97 - (Bone stock)
60' @ 2.332

--Norse396 - 14.912 @ 96.19mph - (???) - CONFIRMED
60ft 2.276
62deg.
47% humidity

--2005tl - 15.12 @ 93.25 mph - (bone stock) - CONFIRMED
60' - 2.44

--skullman - 15.377 @ 92.59 - (???)
60' - 2.352

--??? - 15.3 @ 91 - (???) - ???


--???- 15.665 @ 91.59 - (???) - ???

--WDP-Acura TL - 15.75 @ 91.4 - (???)
60 deg weather

--??? - 15.829 @ 90.119 - (???) - ???

Updated: 3/11/09

Bearcat94

Sweet.

Nice job ILLustriousUA6