av6ent

Dude, C6 Vette dyno at 360WHP/360WTQ SAE and some slightly more. And you saying you beat it? These cars run high-12 sec. ALL-DAY-LONG stock and bunch run 12.5@110mph with Z51 suspension and just an exhaust. And from the roll forget it, it will punish you bad. You need at least 9psi and weight reduction to keep up. Unless he SUCK in driving or wasn't racing, I don't believe you, sorry.

againstallodds1

OK buddy,
Sorry but with a pro driver they only go 12.7 at 110mph out the box. On a good weather condition.
My car runs 13.12 at 107 hitting the rev limiter.
Do me a favor find someone with a stock c6 Automotic in NJ and line him up with me so I CAN SMOKE HIS ASS. Then you will believe me. Till then you are valid to your opinion. But I know what I beat.

I dont know how they can dyno at 360 whp when they are rated 405 at the flywheel before SAE. 25% drivetrain lose. Dont forget we are talking about an AUTO that I beat.

SRT4and05TL

I'm sure with your numbers it was a driver/traction race..either way I love the fact that four door cars can stick it to these sports cars. I'd like to see how you stack up to a Charger SRT8..I read some of them stock are running about your times. Good kills fo sho.

againstallodds1

Here is a race against my boys EVO 8.
He got me on R/T but I ran a better time. He still crossed the line first though by a half a length. Only cause he had a better R/T.
Here is the slip and video of our second race. The first slip is the second race, and the second slip is our first race. I only have the second on video.
Last slip is my best time.




Video of Me and the EVO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3bsw1RKJa4

av6ent

You beat the driver, not the car . 12.7 professional drivers? Sure.

C6 OFFICIAL (AUTO) 1/4 mile times
Source: corvetteforum.com

Showroom Stock

12.48 @ 112.11 - 06 AUTO
12.56 @ 112.00 - 05 AUTO (Z51)
12.70 @ 112.43 - 06 AUTO (Z51)
12.70 @ 112.43 - 06 AUTO (Z51)
12.71 @ 111.00 - 05 AUTO (Z51)
12.72 @ 111.98 - 06 AUTO
12.74 @ 108.67 - 05 AUTO
12.83 @ 109.44 - 05 AUTO
12.85 @ 110.00 - 06 AUTO
12.97 @ 108.00 - 05 AUTO
12.98 @ 108.00 - 05 AUTO
13.04 @ 109.15 - 06 AUTO

Bolt-Ons

11.95 @ 112.00 - 05 AUTO - CAI, catback, headers,converter,tune,DR's
11.98 @ 114.37 - 05 AUTO (Z51) - CAI, catback, headers, converter, tuning
12.37 @ 112.29 - 05 AUTO (3.15) - catback, headers
12.48 @ 113.00 - 05 AUTO (Z51) - CAI
12.50 @ 115.20 - 05 AUTO - tuning
12.51 @ 113.56 - 06 AUTO (Z51) - CAI
12.53 @ 113.57 - 06 AUTO - catback
12.55 @ 111.98 - 05 AUTO (Z51) - CAI, catback, headers
12.57 @ 110.67 - 05 AUTO - catback
12.63 @ 112.35 - 06 AUTO (Z51) - CAI, 325 tires

So, you still believe you beat the car, not the driver?
The properly driven AUTO (yes auto) C6 will spank you even with with your bottle.
And simply DESTROY you without it.

As far as dyno yes C6 manual dyno at 360 and if you say you ran auto, they typically show between 330-345whp.
Regardless, they have WAY MORE TORQUE than you along with excellent gearing and finally weight advantage.
And see what they can do with just simple bolt-ons?

Here is the C6 AUTO (stock) and with headers DYNO.


02AV6 who runs 12.8@108.9 on his blown AV6 auto (no bottle) can pull on C6 auto from the ROLL only. And you're not there yet. No hard feelings, but that's just a reality - C6 is faster than you.

againstallodds1

Yea no hard feelings, but like originally stated, My car 05 TL supercharged with the bottle

BEAT a
C6 corvette.
Yes that is what was stated.
Again like you said no hard feelings.
I WON HAHAHAHAHA

ryebreadisme

iTrader: (1)

Wow that video is nuts. You caught way up, really quick. Impressive.

sunboy52

In my 03 TL with i/h/e/p/s

2004 AT TL
Fancy 2nd gen eclipse
Mini Cooper S
Mustang v6
SC300
Ford Focus
Fancy Prelude
Fancy Talon
Fancy Civic
There is more but i can't remember....

Hockeyman

In my 03 TL with i/h/e/p/s

2004 AT TL
Fancy 2nd gen eclipse
Mini Cooper S
Mustang v6
SC300
Ford Focus
Fancy Prelude
Fancy Talon
Fancy Civic
Cherokee v8
Hemi dodge truck
There is more but i can't remember....

PiZauL

iTrader: (1)

By fancy, do you mean rice rockets?

blktl1

to settle the argument, Im sure it had alot to due with the weather. Paul is spraying and that will cool the cylinder very well. If it was 90 degrees then the vette may have been very heat soaked. My father has a C6 and when I drive it in the heat, its definately not as fast as the times listed above. that car does not perform very well in the heat IMO. I think you have valid points but the times that are listed above for the C6 are most likely the best times recorded out of about 50 passes down the track. also those times you pull out of Road and track or where ever you get those professional times are ran under mostly perfect conditions. Temperature, humidity, and im sure the track is prepped to perfection!
The C6 is in a totally different class of cars and even if Paul was with in a 1/2 a second of a 400 Hp sports car than that is pretty impressive from a luxury import!

av6ent

And I wouldn't go on-line bragging about beating the world's worst driver.

The C6 is TOTALLY OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE! I stand corrected C6 auto IS FASTER, has WAY MORE TORQUE and WEIGH LESS to pull both from ROLL or STAND STILL. Try to line up at the track with the one experienced and see what happend or visit corvetteforum.com and look for a friendly race whereever you are.


Nope, I don't believe MAG TIMES. The times presented above are officially recorded by different members at corvetteforum.com. That's right, each time presented by different member and were verified. And of course track condition, temps, skills made the difference.

Hockeyman

if you mean the rice fart can exhaust, then yes.

againstallodds1

Like my original statement that goes with the threads name. We can argue all day about this all day. But figure my car is putting out good numbers. First compressing N20 gives more, especially trq. So if I was at 250 ft lbs on a hot day,and with a 50 shot will put me over 300 that is trq. I dynoed at 294 whp add 50+ to that and that is where I am at whp. That is really not that far off from what you say.
Also let me give the facts about the race, I pulled a 2.15 60' and the corvette pulled a 2.25 60'. So traction was his problem, I think. But to trap at 106mph in a C6 is bad.
This is my original statement.

blktl1

I always look at like the footbal phrase, " On any Given Sunday". on somedays cars run stronger than others and on some they run like Shi_t . On this particular day, Againstallodds was able to take a C6 vette. I dont understand why everyone has to fight with people when they say they took a particular car. a while ago I posted my race about an M3 and people argued on how there was not way i could beat an M3. under a normal circumstance and equal drivers, your right but I do know that night, i beat and M3. just let the guy feel good about his kil. why do you have to harass him and tell him there is no way!

DiveforTL-s

I just beat a '03 Cobra conv. and a Neon SRT-4. Last week I kicked the crap out of a Hemi Durago... That poor kid did not know what was he had comming to him... poor hemmi owners... and I had my traction control on just to help him out. All with a '03 TL-S stock and with old tires

againstallodds1

03 Cobra, my boy has one, and smokes me everytime. Even me on spray.

blktl1

03 cobras are no joke. I raced one once and I wont do it again cause i dont want to waste fuel when I now im getting smoked!

2003TL-S

Trust me he wasn't even close to trying, there is no way our cars especially stock could do that, my modded 03 type-s is modded and I know I am still not even close to a cobra.

SatinSilverTypS

iTrader: (1)

yeah sorry man, good kill but he definitely wasn't trying. my cousin's 04 mach1 (which is slower than the cobra) would eat my tl-s for dinner and crap out shiny rivets. i can only imagine how bad the cobra would destroy it.

SSTS

againstallodds1

I would like to race a stock 03 - 04 Cobra. He will get me out the hole, but I think I will get him mid range and top end Ill be dusted.
Maybe not, 12.9 at 111 mph. Ill get smoked if he can drive.

blktl1

Paul,

WIth all do respect to you and your car, the TL just doesnt have a chance against that car. Supercharged or not. those things are pretty nasty but its still a FORD!

againstallodds1

I agree. I just want to see what I can do with good weather and humidity. Im just waiting on CleanCL review on the tranny from Dr. Evil. then I will send mine to him if all is well. I think I will be able to get into the 12's with good weather and as long as my tires stick. WITH SPRAY that is. Next tuesday we are going to Atco, I think Ryan is running his camaro too, so I will see that night. It is supposed to drop to 70 at night. We will see.

blktl1

I think atco is kinda far from me, otherwise i would meet you guys there!

BustedJack

I bet you can't even beat 90% of the cars listed on there.

A Camaro Z28 slightly modified will blow any TL without a supercharger. SRT/4 can be real quick. SL550 will smoke your TL anyday and BMW 745i will beat you by a few car length.

What are you smoking ???

BustedJack

VSTo be honest. A C6 corvette stock has 400hp, and they're super light. A friend of mine has a 6MT C6 dyno'd at 338rwhp when it was stock. At 352rwhp and say a guy who ran Paul was Auto Tran. You have to keep in mind although they have more TQ and much lighter. You have to realize Paul's car has some tweaks in there. I say the match was close and not UNBELIEVABLE story.

lifetimeofwar

Im calling

lostkhan

FROM MY 3.2 Type S
WalksWagon GTI 2004
BMW 6Series -- won cause of the Traffic
Honda Accord V6 -
PONTIAN GT --
BMW M3 --- Again Traffic made me the winnder
Dodge Charger-
Nissan Maxima 2003 - I am a Drag Winner

aryathegreat

i gotta agree with my fellow members...i think the probable list of kils from this list includes these :


new 330, srt-4, older LT1 corvettes, wrx.

sry, but i have no idea how u beat an sl550? those things are insane.

F23A4

Since the subject has come up, I cannot remember the last time I saw a stock Terminator. All the ones I have come across are modded enough to evaporate the rear tires @ WOT.

Acuraboy7

Some of you are dreaming! we are not driving the fastest car in the world!

Acuraboy7

woo hoo on the way home tonight I took on a BMW540 I kicked his but several times he would not give up....ughh there goes half my gas.

Actuary

WTF 03-04 Cobra? R U on crack?

Superman337

So you'll get smoked by a 12.9@111 cobra, yet you beat an 05 vette?

I can run that cobra time in my stock c5 m6.

The new c6 can see as low as 12.2 and as fast as 116.

You beat a driver. 300 whp is not close to enough, neither is 350 whp.

av6ent

^ Yep. THat's what I said, that C6 he claims he beat is the WORST driver EVER.

Regardless, 02AV6 will blow any supercharged TL doors off with nitrous or not and that guy knows how to drive with decent power - https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181828

UglyPsycho

I am highly modified thats why I can beat them...

type-s09

03 G35
05 SRT-4
06 Infinity M45
04 Porsche Boxster S
06 330i
Cobalt SS
Redline SS w/ Max boost pulley
03 CL 6 Speed
93 5.0 Mustang..cams bolt ons..skinnies with DRs rear
Plenty of GSRs
Integra Type-R beat when he was off nitrous lost with 75 shot
Thats some of the ones im proud of

Superman337

What modifications do you have?


M45 = 13.8@102

againstallodds1

I see how you havent found any C6 vettes in NJ to race me. I am going to Atco on Tuesday and I am going to find a C6 hopefully and try to get in on tape.
Till then, if you dont believe me, fine, but there are some witnesses, that shows more than your opinion and beliefs.
Oh anyone else on here knows of a C6 STOCK in NJ, line him up!!!!!!!!!!

Superman337

It doesnt matter if you get it on tape or not. Unless you're trapping in the 115 area and running mid 12's, you are only beating the driver on the street.

You make less whp, you weigh more, you have worse gearing, and you're fwd.

It's called physics.

That doenst mean you shouldnt enjoy it if it happens, but you need to realize that it's not because your car is faster than a c6, it's because the other driver blows ass.