A-113: Removal of Slave Cylinder check valve!!!
#323
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
damn that sucks...see if you can find a ring that you could shove in there...or u might have to buy a new slave just for the freaking ring...
id try and modify it by drilling a small hole on the lips of the slave where the cap sits, ...small hole on the opposite sides, and slide in a SS pin or smth...thats if there's enough lip above the cap so it doesnt break....another alternative is...if you banged and hammered the SC rim around the cap so its jammed in there...careful dont hit too hard so u dont break it...those are some alternatives...and maybe after, throw some epoxy or jbweld or smth in there...try and get it to work with that sc...otherwise a new one.
id try and modify it by drilling a small hole on the lips of the slave where the cap sits, ...small hole on the opposite sides, and slide in a SS pin or smth...thats if there's enough lip above the cap so it doesnt break....another alternative is...if you banged and hammered the SC rim around the cap so its jammed in there...careful dont hit too hard so u dont break it...those are some alternatives...and maybe after, throw some epoxy or jbweld or smth in there...try and get it to work with that sc...otherwise a new one.
#325
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
yea... I slapped a chunk of eproxy about 6 hour ago. I believe its hard enough for me to bleed the clutch. Hopefully the bond is strong enough to with-stand the pressure.
What is that ring called? C-Ring? Snap Ring? Maybe I can find something similar at Ace Hardware..
What is that ring called? C-Ring? Snap Ring? Maybe I can find something similar at Ace Hardware..
#327
Instructor
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another alternative is...if you banged and hammered the SC rim around the cap so its jammed in there...careful dont hit too hard so u dont break it...those are some alternatives...and maybe after, throw some epoxy or jbweld or smth in there...try and get it to work with that sc...otherwise a new one.
The Epoxy didnt work too well.. I used the Extra Strength Epoxy and let it sit for 6 hours. It was hard and solid when I got home. I figured it was ready for me to bleed. In the process of bleeding the clutch, the clutch started to get pressure. I thought to myself... "hey, this might just work", than clink... I hear fluid leaking. Yep, Epoxy didnt withstand the pressure.
So, I took your advice ... I decided to hammer the SOB in! Mashed the edges so the plug wouldn't be able to come out under pressure. Works like a charm.. Thanks for the write up!
For anyone who attempts this MOD... PLEASE BE CAREFUL NOT TO LOSE THE C-RING. As I spent 4 hours searching for the damn thing... with no luck!
#328
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
The Epoxy didnt work too well.. I used the Extra Strength Epoxy and let it sit for 6 hours. It was hard and solid when I got home. I figured it was ready for me to bleed. In the process of bleeding the clutch, the clutch started to get pressure. I thought to myself... "hey, this might just work", than clink... I hear fluid leaking. Yep, Epoxy didnt withstand the pressure.
So, I took your advice ... I decided to hammer the SOB in! Mashed the edges so the plug wouldn't be able to come out under pressure. Works like a charm.. Thanks for the write up!
For anyone who attempts this MOD... PLEASE BE CAREFUL NOT TO LOSE THE C-RING. As I spent 4 hours searching for the damn thing... with no luck!
So, I took your advice ... I decided to hammer the SOB in! Mashed the edges so the plug wouldn't be able to come out under pressure. Works like a charm.. Thanks for the write up!
For anyone who attempts this MOD... PLEASE BE CAREFUL NOT TO LOSE THE C-RING. As I spent 4 hours searching for the damn thing... with no luck!
#329
Three Wheelin'
Maybe it would be a good idea for the next person to take measurements of the snap-ring while its out so that they can post specs here online in case someone else looses theirs. That way the next person can keep a back up on hand just in case..
#331
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
#333
Thanks Opel for this mod! A thank you to rockstar143 too as I had a hell of a time trying to remove the ring using just the picks. I ended up making a cut using a dremel and the ring came out in no time.
I'm going to have the shop do the swap (I did this on a new SC) and install the braided line I bought from Heeltoe.
Thanks again!!!
I'm going to have the shop do the swap (I did this on a new SC) and install the braided line I bought from Heeltoe.
Thanks again!!!
#334
I Drive Like A Dick 8≈
Ok, this sounds sweet but I have an 03 CLS6speed, and it was never really clarified if us CL's have this or not. So do we??
BTW great write up to everyone who contributed
BTW great write up to everyone who contributed
#338
Moderator
Chapter Leader (South Florida Region)
Chapter Leader (South Florida Region)
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Not a problem man...yeah...for some reason I consider myself pretty handy and my fatass fingers couldnt get that ring out if my life depended on it. Put the cut, and it was out in no time. Still going strong 6K miles later!
And yessir...in a bubble would be acceptable too!
And yessir...in a bubble would be acceptable too!
#339
Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? Do I need to hold off on this mod and fix the issue first? Maybe the mod will fix it?
#340
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Chapter Leader (South Florida Region)
Chapter Leader (South Florida Region)
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This mod will fix the issue. More than likely your slave cylinder O-ring is leaking. Mine was and that was the symptom. Unfortunately, I didn't know about this mod at the time.
Sorry, I should specify, if you're replacing with a new slave then it will fix the issue. If you are modding your existing one, your o-ring is probably busted on the slave.
Sorry, I should specify, if you're replacing with a new slave then it will fix the issue. If you are modding your existing one, your o-ring is probably busted on the slave.
#341
OMGWTF4THGENTL
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Great mod...
So the last nice day of fall was yesterday, so i took the time to pull the blower...
- Finally installed front innovative mount
- Slave cylinder mod
- Braided clutch line
- Changed oil in SC, using this cool synthetic aeroshell turbine oil...
Long day. PITA to get the blower off. I should have got new plugs and installed them, as I have no intention of pulling it again anytime soon.
The clutch slave mod was pretty easy. Once the blower was out, the slave comes out with ease. I had to dremel the notch as shown in this thread so i could get the ring out. Bleeding was a snap. Invest in a small vacuum pump to fill the line and slave, then a few pumps of the clutch, and a few bleed cycles and we were in business.
Cluth line was also a bitch... Not hard, just a PITA to get to with line wrenches.
Front mount was a snap, other then having to jack up the motor a pit to get the mounts lined up.
Blower reinstall really sucked, couldn't get the mounts to line back up...
Lots of busted knuckles and scratched forearms. My boss asked if I had been fighting with cats Monday.
That said, the slave mod was the best mod of the day... The clutch feels like it should now. So great...
Kennedy's seal of approval!
- Finally installed front innovative mount
- Slave cylinder mod
- Braided clutch line
- Changed oil in SC, using this cool synthetic aeroshell turbine oil...
Long day. PITA to get the blower off. I should have got new plugs and installed them, as I have no intention of pulling it again anytime soon.
The clutch slave mod was pretty easy. Once the blower was out, the slave comes out with ease. I had to dremel the notch as shown in this thread so i could get the ring out. Bleeding was a snap. Invest in a small vacuum pump to fill the line and slave, then a few pumps of the clutch, and a few bleed cycles and we were in business.
Cluth line was also a bitch... Not hard, just a PITA to get to with line wrenches.
Front mount was a snap, other then having to jack up the motor a pit to get the mounts lined up.
Blower reinstall really sucked, couldn't get the mounts to line back up...
Lots of busted knuckles and scratched forearms. My boss asked if I had been fighting with cats Monday.
That said, the slave mod was the best mod of the day... The clutch feels like it should now. So great...
Kennedy's seal of approval!
#342
J36Twingt28r's,nextgt30r
so far this seems like a great mod!!! hey opel would we be able to meet up to do this mod then?? I'll send u a pm in mid january when i get my 04 tl 6-speed swap. im so excited to feel the difference everyone else is feeling!!!
#344
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
#355
OMGWTF4THGENTL
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This mod introduces no additional clutch pressure. The valve only slows the release of the slave when you drop the clutch pedal. Removing it means the clutch slave moves at the speed of the pedal being released. Drop it and pop it and the slave does the same.
The only risk is high power drops can break tranny teeth. Drive sensibly and sportingly and you'll have no issues.
#356
05 TL NBP 6spd S front
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This mod introduces no additional clutch pressure. The valve only slows the release of the slave when you drop the clutch pedal. Removing it means the clutch slave moves at the speed of the pedal being released. Drop it and pop it and the slave does the same.
The only risk is high power drops can break tranny teeth. Drive sensibly and sportingly and you'll have no issues.
The only risk is high power drops can break tranny teeth. Drive sensibly and sportingly and you'll have no issues.
lol
#357
LiQuiDFleX81
i have an 04 TL 6MT and just yesterday i noticed that only in high rpm WOT shifting, (2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 4th, 4th to 5th) it just kinda revs's high and the car doesn't accelerate until the rpms go low enough and then it catches. Normal driving, everything is fine, no slipping, grabs really good.
that being said,, do i even have the check valve in my slave cylinder because i'm pretty sure i share the same tranny as the 03 CL 6speed which did not have the check valve....
i don't wanna just take it out to find out that i don't even have this part, but does this seem llike the culprit? am i correct on having the same trans as the CL 6MT?
that being said,, do i even have the check valve in my slave cylinder because i'm pretty sure i share the same tranny as the 03 CL 6speed which did not have the check valve....
i don't wanna just take it out to find out that i don't even have this part, but does this seem llike the culprit? am i correct on having the same trans as the CL 6MT?
#358
Safety Car
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i have an 04 TL 6MT and just yesterday i noticed that only in high rpm WOT shifting, (2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 4th, 4th to 5th) it just kinda revs's high and the car doesn't accelerate until the rpms go low enough and then it catches. Normal driving, everything is fine, no slipping, grabs really good.
that being said,, do i even have the check valve in my slave cylinder because i'm pretty sure i share the same tranny as the 03 CL 6speed which did not have the check valve....
i don't wanna just take it out to find out that i don't even have this part, but does this seem llike the culprit? am i correct on having the same trans as the CL 6MT?
that being said,, do i even have the check valve in my slave cylinder because i'm pretty sure i share the same tranny as the 03 CL 6speed which did not have the check valve....
i don't wanna just take it out to find out that i don't even have this part, but does this seem llike the culprit? am i correct on having the same trans as the CL 6MT?
#359
LiQuiDFleX81
i will give it a try then, hopefully that is the fix, is it hard to access the slave cylinder, just get the car up on some ramps and look by the transmission for it? is ALOT of fluid going to leak out when i take this part off to access the check valve? thanks