What springs to lower with if i keep the oem shocks?

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Old 10-09-2006 | 08:56 PM
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What springs to lower with if i keep the oem shocks?

All i want to do is lower my car with a relatively comfortable ride, yet sportier...

i dont want to have to get shocks...

whats my best bet?
Old 10-09-2006 | 09:35 PM
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how many miles on the stock shocks?
Old 10-10-2006 | 09:04 AM
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110k with no sagging
Old 10-10-2006 | 09:06 AM
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well i think that is too many miles to put after market springs on but i could be wrong. i had H&R sport springs on my 00tl which had about 160k but the shocks were changed on that car at about 135K.
Old 10-10-2006 | 10:10 AM
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You wont get saging. You might want to start to save up for new shocks. you are getting to the end of their life as is. Lowering it will only speed it up.
Old 10-10-2006 | 11:49 AM
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One of my front shocks started to leak fluid at around 45K Km even with original stock springs on. Shocks are not covered in the Honda extended warranty program. The OEM replacement shock costs as much as the Tokico Illumina, and also shocks have to be replaced in pairs. So that's when I ended up replacing them all with H&R springs and Illumina shocks.
Old 10-11-2006 | 01:16 PM
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You wont get saging. You might want to start to save up for new shocks. you are getting to the end of their life as is. Lowering it will only speed it up.
really? i mean, there doesnt seem to be any issues with the quality right now and the rear still seems pretty stiff...

whats my best bet in regards to brand? should i go with tein or h&r... eibach?
Old 10-11-2006 | 03:05 PM
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really? i mean, there doesnt seem to be any issues with the quality right now and the rear still seems pretty stiff...

whats my best bet in regards to brand? should i go with tein or h&r... eibach?
Shocks when going out normally will just slowly wear out and you most likely wont notice a change because it will be a gradual change.

As for what brand? what ever you are willing to spend. KYB has a oem replacement thats not bad (i stuck on my car) thats afforadable. Best would be Bilstien (which im looking into installing on my car this winter)
Old 10-11-2006 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bambo2888
really? i mean, there doesnt seem to be any issues with the quality right now and the rear still seems pretty stiff...

whats my best bet in regards to brand? should i go with tein or h&r... eibach?
Well, I have 70k on the stock shocks and I'm dropped on H&R sports. No signs of shock leakage or failure, so far. I'll probably replace the stockers with KYB GR2 or Tokico HP's, as I've heard that they're pretty close to stock in regards to ride quality.
Old 10-11-2006 | 04:40 PM
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change shocks and spring at the same time .. H&R sport 50103 = 2 finger gap .. eibach a bit lower .. i have koni yellow&hr sport and love them .. the ride is smooth and they handle great.. they are ajustable too..
Old 10-11-2006 | 05:40 PM
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my price range is about 200-250 and ill install them myself.... does that help with narrowing down the suggestions on brands?
Old 10-11-2006 | 06:00 PM
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Shock brand to check :

Tokico
Kyb
Koni
Bilshtein
Old 10-11-2006 | 07:36 PM
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i meant brands for springs... the shocks, if ever, will come later on
Old 10-12-2006 | 12:20 AM
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H&R sport, H&R Oe, Tein and Eibach are the more commun Comptech now use the Eibach spring..
Old 10-12-2006 | 05:35 AM
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does anyone here have a spring setup with stock shocks? how do you like it, etc?
Old 10-12-2006 | 09:59 AM
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Like I wrote ^, I have H&R Sports on stock shocks. The ride is just fine, and I'm happy with it.
Old 10-12-2006 | 12:34 PM
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how would you compare it to stock?
Old 10-12-2006 | 01:47 PM
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I can't tell what you're driving, from your sig or this thread. Well mine is a TL-S, which stock has a firmer suspension than the TL-P. With the H&R sports and stock shocks, it's only a little firmer than stock, which I like.
Old 10-12-2006 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bambo2888
i meant brands for springs... the shocks, if ever, will come later on
With the mileage you have, just save up a little more and do it right and get shocks too.
Old 10-12-2006 | 04:17 PM
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It seems as though u've already made up ur mind but u may wanna look at it this way. If u go ahead and buy the springs now and in a couple months ur shocks go south (which they most likely will) u'll end up spending as much if not more then a set of full coilovers. So my best advice would be to wait untill u can afford what u want instead of wanting only what u can afford
Old 10-12-2006 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by boku
It seems as though u've already made up ur mind but u may wanna look at it this way. If u go ahead and buy the springs now and in a couple months ur shocks go south (which they most likely will) u'll end up spending as much if not more then a set of full coilovers. So my best advice would be to wait untill u can afford what u want instead of wanting only what u can afford

yea, you've got a point...
Old 10-12-2006 | 10:48 PM
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Which has a smoother ride? Tein, H&R, or Eibach?

For 18's should I go with .5"(rear)/.75"(front) or 1.5"(rear)/1.75"(front)?

Also, I just checked Bilsteins website and they didnt have any thing for my 00 TL.
Old 10-14-2006 | 09:59 PM
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I can't tell what you're driving, from your sig or this thread. Well mine is a TL-S, which stock has a firmer suspension than the TL-P. With the H&R sports and stock shocks, it's only a little firmer than stock, which I like.
Did you end up with a camber kit too ?
Old 10-17-2006 | 09:16 AM
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Did you end up with a camber kit too ?
did you?
Old 10-17-2006 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by digitu

Also, I just checked Bilsteins website and they didnt have any thing for my 00 TL.
They are under accord. Select CL and the accord part # will come up
Old 10-17-2006 | 01:05 PM
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H&R sport = -1.3 negative camber on rear (on my car) , front = spect.. i have a camber kit but if i had the choice ill not buy one again .. $to install, ajust etc.. not really worth it for -1.3 degre..
Old 10-17-2006 | 07:29 PM
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Did you end up with a camber kit too ?
Nope, I didn't put in a camber kit. I've had the car for only 2 months, but I haven't noticed any uneven wear on the rear tires. Some on this forum have said that you don't need one with the H&R Sport drop. I hope that's true...
Old 10-24-2006 | 05:28 PM
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I am on H&R Sports 50103 and no camber kits needed, alignment always within spec. Just be sure to rotate tires to all four corners in sequence (if you have non-directional tires). This will give you the most even tire wear.
Old 10-24-2006 | 06:28 PM
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I am on H&R Sports 50103 and no camber kits needed, alignment always within spec. Just be sure to rotate tires to all four corners in sequence (if you have non-directional tires). This will give you the most even tire wear.

sweet, thats exactly what ive been lookin for.

question though... is the model of springs that you have the ones with the sagging problem?
Old 10-24-2006 | 07:12 PM
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sweet, thats exactly what ive been lookin for.

question though... is the model of springs that you have the ones with the sagging problem?
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