It'd have to be one heck of a warranty! These sure seem rare up here. Only 1 for sale 2021 or newer in my province, it's a 2022 and has 65,000km (40k miles) and they want $69k CAD for it. Powaaaaaa...

The Acura dealership near me has 6 ZDX. I am thinking of swing by to look at them later today or Sunday and see how they are.

https://www.sunnysideacura.com/new-v...%5D%5B0%5D=New

Some '24 TLX Type S starting to show up around my area in so.cal. 3 of the 4 dealerships near me have 'em (surprisingly, none are Urban Gray). 2 Platinum Whites, 1 Tiger Eye Pearl, and 1 Apex Blue Pearl.

My area dealership has 6 new A-specs, and 2 tech pack TLXs' for 2024. 6 used TLX's 21-23 and one used 2023 Type-S with 20K miles on it. Not much out there at this point where I live.

Agreed. They'll continue to focus on their SUV lineup which is still largely successful and could even improve with the addition of the ADX which I hope comes with a 2.0 Hybrid.

It feels like there is a bit of movement on the inventory front. DFW had just a handful of A-Specs available. Now the Acura site is showing several 'in transit'.

Oddly the ones that are in stock really aren't moving. I've had my eye on a blue one at the dealership closest to my house. It's gorgeous, but I'd want a different color interior. It's been there for a couple of months now along with every single Tech they got a couple of months ago. It just seems like the TLX is a very slow mover.

According to a press statement made by Honda to carscoops.com:

A Honda spokesperson reached out to [carscoops.com] to address the decline in sales of the Acura TLX, Integra, and Honda Accord, all built at the Marysville Auto Plant in Ohio. “These declines are not due to demand plummeting, but were expected impacts due to the significant reconfiguration of our Marysville Auto Plant where they are all built. We’re combining lines 1 & 2 into one line,” the spokesperson explained.

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/ac...ges-76-in-may/

PR guy double-speak. The decline in sales is because we combined two lines into one, not lack of demand. In other news, we combined two lines into one due to lack of demand.

Are they freeing up the other production line for ramping up production of the new EV's ? Until the new Honda/Acura factory for EV is complete, new EV's have to make do on existing production lines.

What new EVs? The Prologue and ZDX? Those are built in GM's factory.

"Honda’s Marysville plant begins EV conversion"
https://www.limaohio.com/top-stories...ev-conversion/

Interesting to see Honda go all in on electric and Toyota go all-in with hybrid. I still think there are enough EV cautious consumers to make it a limited market. Range anxiety is real. An EV makes sense if you're a garaged owner with a short manageable commute. But a large part of the market who parks outside is going to need a more robust charging network to consider it.

Personally, I think Toyota is gonna kill it with the 25 Camry. It's much better looking than the Accord and at 47 mpg in the city, it's going to bring a lot of consumers into the hybrid market. If they aggressively expand their hybrids, Honda will have their hands full.

The new Accord looks like dog shit or UGLY Japanese Buick. There were a number of posters here that were hyping it during release and made comments how much better it is than TLX. I don't see any of them claiming that they bought one. Typical keyboard warriors... The new Camry will crush Accord in sales.

Concur, not very good looking. The Accord had been saved in the past by much better performance, but with the demise of the 2.0T, that has gone away.

The 10G at least looked like a cousin to the TLX. You saw some of the family resemblance. It was a good looking car. It didn't quite have the angles/edges of the TLX, but it still seemed sporty in a similar vein.

The new version has no personality at all. At best it's non-descript. At worst it's ugly. It's hard to tell what Honda was going for as it no longer bears any resemblance to the other cars in the lineup. Even more confusing as the new Civic was an evolution of the previous design and looks great. I can see why sales are declining. The comments in the video above are spot on.

As is his point that Camry sales are poised to pummel Accord. The Accord is already selling slower than the Civic or Camry, despite having way more inventory available. That's going to accelerate as Camry and Civic Hybrid production ramps up. Camry did it right. They took a good design, made it better and went all hybrid throughout the line. Honda made an uglier car and split a gas/hybrid lineup. That makes no sense as people who are getting base/lower money want to save money too. Who is going to choose a gas Accord or a hybrid Camry for the same price?

I'd hoped Acura would expand the hybrids to the TLX line like Lexus did for the 300 series. I hybrid TLX would be my dream car right now.

Instead they went for a lazy 'refresh' which was essentially just streamlining a bloated line, adding a bigger screen to a bad infotainment system, digital guages (standard with most models now) and a new grill.

Spin doctoring at its finest. 2023 sales numbers told them they should repurpose the plant to quickly churn out more of what does sell well. Then PR makes the excuse that low inventory means low sales. True on the face of it. But admits nothing about the underlying reason, which is that sales were never that hot in the first place.

edit - I'd also add Toyota is coming really hard with the 2025 Crown and Crown Signia. The Crown is in that space of a near luxury sedan with a unique - but good-looking style. And again - they are rolling with an AWD hybrid. The Platinum Crown with a 342 HP hybrid is a very 'swing for the fences' approach.


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I wholeheartedly agree! The low sales numbers not because of lack of interest by the consumer. It is due to an Acura production issue. It's mind boggling to me that Acura could be selling thousands of TLXs but decided to shift their focus to producing other Honda/Acura vehicles.

I just got off the phone with Acura Customer Relations (corporate) and they are refusing to admit to any manufacturing changes/issues. I responded, so basically you're telling the consumer to go elsewhere and buy a car. The rep didn't know how to respond. It's unprecedented! I've been buying Hondas and Acuras for over 30 years and I've never had issues with finding the car I wanted on the lot or having it transferred from another dealer.

I don't trust the European competition (Audi, Mercedes, BMW, etc.). I like to keep my cars for about 10 years and the German engineering are know to be considerably more expensive to maintain over long periods of time. My current 2015 TLX SH-AWD Tech has been a fantastic car! I love the naturally aspirated V-6 and I haven't had any issues. If Acura doesn't start manufacturing the 24 TLX Type S over the next 6 months, I'm going with the Lexus IS-350 F Sport AWD.

Honda detailed what is happening to the Marysville line in the press release below below, and it aligns with carscoop's reporting. Essentially they are not building any new plants beyond their new battery plant, everything else is a slow conversion of existing facilities from ICE to EV. Marysville is being converted into a dynamic line that can handle both ICE and EV, seems like a good hedge as demand mix is incredibly hard to predict at this time.

https://hondanews.com/en-US/releases...-north-america

But it is due to a lack of interest and why Acura has shifted focus. The TLX isn't a bad car but its sales figures have not been great and it misses the mark in some areas and when you add this in with the shift from sedans, hybrid and ICE vehicles rising in popularity, etc. it's a logical business decision.

Yes! It is real. I had a few EV for work trips before (Volvo, Kia, Hyundai) and while hotel-work-hotel only 10min away, but by the 4th day the anxiety kicked in and I couldn't explored the area after work like I can with the ICE cars. There was one instance I had to find a charging station near the airport and sat there for 1/2 an hour just to have enough for another day of work.

I would pick the plugin-hybrid or hybrid any day over EV for the green purpose or gas saving.

Acura not making any TLX’s because they are converting plant to make EV’s that NO one will buy ! Dealers have no inventory to sell . Acura wake the @ up !

EV's are always going to have a hard time until 2 things happen, 1)more range, say 500-600 miles, and 2) more charging stations. Admittedly my TLX may only have 240-280 mile range, but I can always find a gas station and it takes at worst 5 minutes to fill up. You are lucky if the charging only takes 20 minutes, that is why range is important. In my example, two stops for fuel 10 minutes, one recharge 20 minutes. Maybe this works in California and some major metro areas, but where I live (the SE) I have maybe seen 3 or 4 charging stations.

Unless Acura has plans to quickly offer hybrid versions of the Integra,TLX, RDX, and MDX they may really suffer going forward. Converting their plants for EV's prematurely is not a smart decision. There are many people that will buy a hybrid long before they ever consider an EV. I hope they figure this out before long!!!

Outside of a few states there is minimal demand (and it's been decreasing) for EV's. In NJ 1 of 10 cars (anecdotally) is a tesla. I was in western Marland and then later in North Carolina this year and literally saw like 3 teslas total . I was eye opening at how few there were compared to NJ. Probably doesn't help thet are being forced on people by mandates from the Govt who with 5 billion allocated in 2021 managed to build 7 charging stations after 3 tears. Many manufactures are re-evaluating the rush to EV's. Toyota has been smart with their strategy.

I am a service advisor at an Acura dealer. You’re not wrong in the sales of specific vehicles. We do get quite a few TLX/Integras in for service but the majority of newer cars are RDX/MDX which isn’t a surprise. I currently have a TLX Type S but we’re looking at adding either an RDX or MDX to our garage as we just had our first child 7 weeks ago. The additional space is welcome as it’s easier and more comfortable for everyone. I still have no plans to sell my TLX but sooner or later I’ll need to look at something bigger for myself too.

Perhaps you'll go for the better color for your MDX Type-S hahaha

I took my 22 TLX to get serviced and once again asked "where are the TLX Type S models for sale"? This particular dealer had about FORTY ZDX's in stock. and ZERO TLX Type S models. The refreshed Type S is the only Acura product I am interested in and having owned a TL/TLX since 2004...I am not looking forward to switching manufacturers. Wife has a plug in hybrid SUV (Volvo) so I get to have the "fun" car, even though that SUV will obliterate my TLX up to 112 mph. The last time I asked, I was told the dealers weren't ordering them because Acura had no favorable lease deals...then I was told they had relaxed that and I should see some soon...it is JUNE of 2024 and there are no current model year vehicles on lots for sale. VERY disappointing.

Maybe something is coming in July? I follow the Edmonds Lease deals forum and the mod there will give you the monthly MF/Residual/Incentives for you zip code/lease. The lease deals have been pretty consistent, not great. Other than a lower money factor (interest rate) for the A-Spec, nothing jumps out. There is a loyalty $1000 but not other incentives.

I see more cars listed as 'in transit' for my area (DFW) than in the last few weeks. But no idea of they are actually in transit or cars that have been ordered and are in production. The ones they have aren't really moving. I'm kind of interested in a blue a-apec - but preferred a different interior color at the closest Acura dealer. They have that car and the same two Tech models in stock for the last 2+months.

It doesn't feel like they are moving and Acura isn't doing anything to push them.

I was at my "local" Acura dealer for a main bearing recall on my 2015 TLX.
I asked about acquiring a 2024 S.
Their response was: give us a $5000 deposit, we will put the order in the pipeline.
They cannot tell me how much the car will be, much less how long the order will take.
Never mind what dealer options I'm interested in.
This is a sad state of affairs for Acura.
I read where the PMC facility in OH. is now building Honda CRV Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
Mind you this is a 3 or 4 yr. lease only and limited to single digit states.
Here in Ca. I'm not sure there are any H. stations left. Shell closed the few they had in large urban areas.
This is the facility that built the NSX and the PMC's.
Would not be at all surprised if the TLX sedan never reaches the next generation.
ICE (for now) and EV SUV's rule the day for Acura.
David

I am currently sitting at a local-ish Acura dealer right now to see the salesman that sold me my first Acura. They have 0 TLX Type-S models on the lot, and their sister dealership in the next town over doesn't have any either. They got a few ZDXs and a bunch of MDXs and RDXs, quite a few integras, and only a handful of TLXs (again none are Type-S models lol)

This makes a convincing argument for me to sell my TLX-S to them and demand a premium for it lol.

Update. My dealer just got in 6 TLX’s, 5 are ASpec SH- AWD. $2 k off MSRP plus any other incentives.

The fact is consumers want an SUV far more than sedans now. Especially with the smaller interior space of a TLX it’s just not the best option for families. I bought my TLX Type S without even considering rear interior room because I was in a relationship but no baby. It was t even a thought that crossed my mind. Now with an 8 week old baby boy I’ve come to realize it’s just not ideal but trading it in isn’t ideal either.

As I mentioned above the majority of cars sold at my work are either an RDX or MDX. I think the Integra sells more than the TLX too. But without SH-AWD the Integra is a no go from the start IMO.

Interesting. I was getting my 21 serviced today and wandered over to the showroom asked about TLX availability. They have a few in stock and a few that are supposed to be trickling in. They pivoted to wanting to show me the ZDX and pushing the incentives available for it. Then to other SUVs.

They implied they are expecting Acura to have some new incentives across the board in July. 2k off an A-Spec and some incentives could get me interested again. I've gotten to sour a bit on Acura for a future car as the TLX future seems in doubt. Plus, I'm kinda hybrid curious now.

I can totally see that. My wife's car was always the family car. And when our kids were young, I was in the 3rd gen TL/TLX that had a good size back seat and was higher. I'm by myself in my car 99% of the time, so backseat room and other amenities weren't as important.

The guy at the Acura dealer made a good point that the TLX is kinda like a coupe in that regard. It's a 4-door car....but not in the way that people who want a family car want a 4-door car to be designed.

Acura built a niche car, so I hope they're not surprised that they're seeing niche car sales numbers. Other automakers can do that kind of thing because they sell globally, so even a less popular model will still result in a larger number of total sales. For instance, Audi sold a mere 18K A5/S5/RS5s in 2022 in the US, but Europe netted them another 23K, and who knows how many more they got out of China. I know how many additional TLX's Acura sold in Europe and China: zero.

I bought my Type-S with a 1yr old. Now 3 and the car seat is no longer rear facing. It has helped with a front seat passanger in terms of space. Other than the car seat, I rarely have a passanger in the car with me, so idc about rear leg room.

We have a car seat in her ILX so I’m sure it’ll fit in the TLX and I have no desire to get rid of it. The ILX will likely go this year for an RDX.

I had an RDX for a couple days a month ago. I have to admit, I liked it. Gotta get used to a 4cy tur o, but I would definitely by one as a 2nd vehicle in a couple years as an alternative. I can understand why they sell so well. I don't like the goofy storage USB area under the center stak at all. Poor design.

Anyway the seat will fit technically, however the front passanger will be cramped and you have to be cognizant of the car seat being pushed up off the back seat.