DJ Iceman

It was a 2000 M Roadster. So a long time ago, but the ownership experience was so bad I won't even LOOK at Bimmers again. Yes, the car may have been built on a Friday (love that one), but the dealership experience across a few different locations was also pretty poor. I have plenty of friends who love their Bimmers and have little to no problems with them, but that isn't enough to overcome the really horrible experience I personally had.

And for @Edward'TLS , I can totally understand your reasoning and am glad you love your Cayenne! I know a lot of folks talked about the last-gen RLX SH-SH-AWD as "a four door NSX", so did you ever look into one of those?

vhtran

My wife and I have had a shift in mentality during the Covid pandemic. Although we are younger than you, we have realized the importance of maintaining a balance between our personal and professional lives. I, too, had my eyes set on the Cayenne Coupe GTS, but the dealerships were charging $15K-$25K markups, which were hard to accept. While I was getting my Q8 serviced recently, I spotted the RS6 in the showroom, and my wife gave me the go-ahead to buy it. Sadly, we are so busy, and I haven't had a chance to enjoy it yet.

German car manufacturers tend to overengineer and introduce new technologies, which buyers must accept for long-term reliability. I can't speak for Merc, but I agree that BMW and Audi got high ranks in the consumable reports.

MarcoTLX

Yeah I think it's cool all the new tech they bring to their cars and to go further with my honesty I am definitely looking at BMW when it comes time to replace my Type-S and it will be another 4 door with about double the HP output of the Type-S

Edward'TLS

I was too mesmerized by the 570hp NSX powertrain that the 377hp SH-SH-AWD RLX seemed like a child's play. I may be too naive to have kept on hoping that future iterations (or a high performance Type-S trim) of the SH-SH-AWD RLX may just be factory tuned to perhaps 450hp, since that the RLX powertrain configuration was kind of similar to the NSX one but in reverse layout. My wait was short because Acura decided to axe the RLX model line altogether in 2020.

dj5

With the low sales volume and lack of production the TLX sounds like it may go the way RLX.

Guy Legend

I think this must be a temporary issue. Acura wouldn't refresh the model only to discontinue it. I did hear about the production line change which is what I think is going on.

Regardless, it is pathetic that there is so limited inventory for a car (especially type S) that is getting a lot of attention with the refresh. This shouldn't be a car that dealers are selling for msrp or acting like a limited model.

Tony Pac

I do not know the whole story but when you go to an Acura car dealership in my city, there is no TYPE S available. So you have to place an order and even the A-SPEC, only a few vs. MDX they have a dozen with different colors to buy on the spot.

MarcoTLX

Same deal here in the DC, MD, VA area no new TLX Type-S models and only a handful of new TLX A-Specs and barely if any new TLX Tech models in the inventory

bilirubin

same thing with my local dealer, a handful of TLX A-spec's, but zero Type S available.

Tony Pac

that's a major issue. If you want to buy one, I was told to wait 4-6 months.

dj5

If you have to wait 6 months then the 2025 TLX models will be out, if there is a 2025 model. If people need a vehicle, they are not going to wait 4-6 months they are going to be looking somewhere else. Sedans are dying out as most folks want SUVs now.
Maybe Acura thinks if folks want a Type S they will just jump over to the MDX as they are more practical anyway.

Edward'TLS

If you place an order now with a 6 months wait time, when the waiting period crosses over to the 2025 model year, then your order will automatically become a 2025 TLX release.

Tony Pac

that's what happened with a few people that I know....they ordered 2023 and got 2024 models....I know it's not just Acura but sucks to see the sedan market is slowly dying! Except 3 Series and C Class which are the market leaders, the rest of the sedans aren't doing well.

mantan

I'm trying to keep my options open. My lease is up next month on my 21 Tech. I'm going to extend it six months. I'm wary of putting anything down a car that may not be here, so I'll just wait to see if the market changes. I'm reluctant to buy it outright as Texas charges sales tax on the sale. Which is total BS as you already pay full sales tax on the original sale cap cost...not on lease payments like most states.

I'd really wanted an ASpec. The changes in the 21 Tech aren't worth it IMO. The body style changes are minimal. I already have a wireless CarPlay adapter. If I can't get an Aspec, I'll just buy it and keep it for another 5-6 years.

ESHBG

The TLX is dead, a whopping 40.2%/62.3% decrease in sales in the US:

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/05/sa...xcept-for-one/

If you're buying and the TLX was on your list either buy used if what you want is not on the lot or find something else.

mantan

As somebody said in the thread, it's like they choked it out on purpose.

1. Stop making cars

2. Bemoan declining sales

3. Kill line because nobody is buying cars

ChicagoMike

So I went to the Acura dealership yesterday, here's what they have sitting right at the front of the lot: 6 used TLXs: https://www.rizzaacura.com/inventory...roduction=true they had WAY more than this in February.

12 here: https://www.acurabymcgrath.com/searc...9&mk=1&tp=used

Wow they are just loaded to the brims all over with USED TLXs that people turned in... ughh

I spoke to the manager and he has no information on when or if they will get the 2024 TLX now. He refunded my deposit with no issues. I had to, I was supposed to have the car by now; my car has failed emissions and needs $3000+ in repairs/parts, July was my deadline, and the emissions parts are backordered... so I had to bite the bullet and go ahead with the repairs, I cannot be without a vehicle and at least I know all the work I've put into the car I own now, even though it's got 240,000 miles (all my miles)

22TypeS

That's right. Back when it was due to the supply chain, I put a deposit on a '21, the only one that came in was black on black - not for me. Finally 9 months later my white over red came in as a '22. (This was my 3rd color choice, the other 2 were Apex Blue, the dealer never got one.) The dealer honored the '21 price on the '22, saved me $700.

vhtran

Do you know why they turned in that many? I am curious.

Pens Fan

The other mind boggling situation is all of the YouTube reviews that have been posted the last few weeks for the Type S, yet Acura is not building many of them. WOW !!!!

Flapjackura

And every single one is a gray Type S. Gray Type S was at the Chicago Auto Show too. Maybe it's the only gray one built this year - LOL - and it's getting passed around to the reviewers like a hot potato

mantan

I wonder if it’s people like me whose lease is up and they want to get into something else.

I just wonder what they are getting into as an alternative. My salesman pushed hard for me to consider the Integra A-Spec Tech as an alternative as there are a ton available.

I drove one. While there some things I liked about it, I didn’t like it as much as my current TLX.

vhtran

For daily vehicles, once you are in a nice luxury car with good room. It's hard to go to a smaller car.

MarcoTLX

Yeah that is more than likely Acura's 2024 TLX-S Press Car thats being passed around to all the reviewers. One of the key indicators is the license plate is similar video to video.

mvl

3421 is the demo unit license plate assigned to Honda. Every press car they make can share this number. So it could be 1 demo, or a dozen demos, that reviewers are using. The plate will always be 3421.

Edward'TLS

Likewise, once you are in a nice luxury car with 400hp, It is hard to go to a less powerful car.

vhtran

Something like this

mike03a3

Not always Honda/Acura, sometimes the dealer. Once (maybe 20 years ago) I went with my daughter to buy a new Accord for her. An EX-L w/Nav, the top of the line. She wanted a manual, but the dealer (a large one) said they didn't stock them because nobody wanted one. When she asked how long to order one the reply was several months because they had a waiting list. My sweet daughter informed him he was a f**king moron.

To your point about manufacturers, Jaguar had a beautiful XJ-S convertible with ether a six or V12. A manual transmission was only available on the six, while almost all the people who wanted a manual also wanted the V-12.
I bought a V-12 and replaced the GM automatic with a Tremec 5-speed and changed the rear from 2:88 to 3:54. Ah, the good old days, these days with all the electronics that sort of hot-rodding is virtually impossible.

mike03a3

And if you are in a nice luxury car with even more room and over 500hp, it's even harder to go back.

GhostTL09

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What does that have to do with lack of inventory?

MarcoTLX

I think it was more so an off topic post response to Edward making a slight nod/reference to @mike03a3 's very own BMW M550i xDrive which comes from factory with 523hp iirc... thus it being hard for him to step down into a lesser powered car.

I must say though, at 523hp those M550is are pretty quick!

mike03a3

Exactly as much as the post by Edward'TLS that I responded to.

mike03a3

So, I checked the dealer where I purchased my original '07 Type-S. They claim to be the largest Acura Dealer in the world.
The have 441 2024 cars, but only 9 of them are TLX and none are Type-S.
They only have 2 left-over 2023 cars, both TLX. And one of them is a Red Type-S! So I guess that's some evidence the buyers stopped loving the TLX somewhere along the line. They are beautiful cars, but some of the design choices were criticised by many who publicly test drove them, chiefly making it bigger on the outside but small inside, especially the back seat.

I would hate to see Acura go. We have had Honda/Acura in our family since 1968.

MarcoTLX

Pohanka Acura says their the largest Acura dealer nationwide and have any Acura model in almost any color combination. Funny thing is they have no TLX Type-S models apart from a used 2022 model, a handful of Integra-S and a boat load of MDX-S models. If their the largest Acura dealer why they have no 2017+ NSXs in the inventory? huh? hahahaha cause its a slow moving car for them lol

vhtran

I doubt that Acura will go out. They will be focus on their bread and butter. The MDX?

Legend2TL

it's just the folks expressing their thoughts no matter how realistic/unrealistic they may be. While SUV sales are doing well for Acura even the Integra sales have dropped about a 1/4 from a year. Closest Acura dealer to me has 4 TLX's but no Type-S's. Within 100 miles only 4 Type-S TLX's are available. Why? good question.

Edward'TLS

..... and big-horsepower EVs.

vhtran

That works too, the dads can get away with "honey we need the SUV with good power to haul the family". The MDX-S can pump a little more in power with hybrid setup, and for the ZDX, Honda is probably cooking something for the refresh or next gen.

vertigo2

523hp!? *goes to check local CPO listings*

MarcoTLX

Decent prices too, snag a nicely optioned one up with a nice warranty and you'd be all set!