Zahmed1094

I am a 75+ year old, looking for a very good cruiser type for long road trips. Too old to mod, race, etc. Coming from an Infiniti q60 and a Corvette C 6 (great car but too low now for an old, 6’4” guy). I was considering the Kia Stinger, Acura tlx and the Genesis G 70. I like the looks and feel of the Acura. Looking for a 2022+.

Question is what I might miss in going with a base package, what trim to get, etc. I don’t live in snow country so the AWD is not needed. My budget is under $35k.

cwatt79

Search for the "2021 Acura TLX Press Kit," as that will contain the most accurate and complete information about the trims and included features. They only release press kits for new models, but the 2021 information will apply to 2022 and 2023, except for some color options. 2024+ will have its own press kit. You can then decide which features are important/not important to you. I have a 2021 Advance SH-AWD, and I love all the Advance features. I'd at least recommend a Technology, as the base trim is pretty limited in feature content. Then again, those features may not do anything for you.

Don't think that SH-AWD is just for snow - it is truly a handling-focused AWD system that benefits the driver every time you turn the steering wheel while on throttle. If you have any appreciation for good driving dynamics, it's well worth it. I live in the South, and I still wouldn't go without SH-AWD.

Baksju

Stinger is stiff AF, TLX is terrible with MPG and power to weight ratio, G70 will not drive as nicely as TLX

have you considered m340/330/540?

forgot to mention, Acuras infotainment system is shit compared to other 3 brands as well lol

Zahmed1094

Didn’t expect that but thanks!

Jim2301

My guess is that your USD35K budget will dictate much of your decision. I'm on my 4th Acura (3 TLs and now my current 2020TLX). All have been VERY good cars, and I spec'd them pretty much the same (v6, tech packages, mud guards, trunk tray, winter floor mats, etc). I'm not an audiofile, but I did work with Jesse Kelly to upgrade the ELS audio system to better match the quality of the prior TLs. You mentioned road trips. Of note the TLX is getting is getting a bit over 27 mpg in mixed city driving, and I got a bit over 38 mpg on a recent trip from the Philadelphia area to Minneapolis and back. A prior trip to/from Indiana hit 34 mpg. My mileage is tracked and documented with actual gallons purchased/miles traveled (not the trip computer).

The only semi-downer is that the shape of the hood blocks the vision to the "corners" of the car, and can be a pain to park in tight garages (especially if you have a side-loader garage with limited turning area). I purposely bought the 2020 model in August 2020 just before the 2nd generation came on to the market. I wanted the V-6, the CD hard drive, and wanted to avoid the, always present, teething problems that most new designs suffer.

our suggested candidates are all solid cars, and you can't go wrong (I also looked at your candidates back in 2020), so the decision may be to find a clean, well maintained nit, that fits your target budget. Best of luck!

jhb31

Based on the cars you are comming from sounds like you enjoy some performance. The SH-AWD is not just for snow. I have had two TLX's, one FWD V6 and Sh-awd V6 and the AWD is light years better handling wise. In rain it's not even close, no wheel spin like the FWD. Frankly if getting in and out of the car is an issue and you still are "young" enough to enjoy some great performance it would hurt to look at and 2021/22 SQ5 with the sport package which may be around your budget price. Interior wise it's much nicer than the other cars you mentioned. Perfomance wise 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. The motor in it is mature and pretty bullet proof. You only live once.

22TypeS

For reliability I'd go with Acura. SUVs are easier to get in and out of. Maybe RDX or MDX. I second everyone's comments on SH-AWD the handling is outstanding. I am late sixties and am still able to deal with the low seating position for my TypeS, which is helped by the seat that moves back upon exit and moves up once the car is turned on. Likely available on the Tech and Advance packages of the early 6th gen TLX (I didn't check the press release.). Due note that all the German brands are very expensive to service, even if some are reliable.

Baksju

@22TypeS for SUVs if performance/mpg matter at all i would go with X3M40 instead of RDX/MDX, interior and technology is much better too

Type-S the Black

With all of your hang ups regarding Acuras and your constant 'go buy a beemer' montage, maybe this isnt the forum for you any longer?

Baksju

never owned a BMW, had 2007 tls in the past, now have 23 tlxs, wife has 22rdx aspec advance so i think i have every right to post here and complain about shortcomings of honda vehicles lol

DJ Iceman

Sounds like the Integra was designed and built for the OP.

22TypeS

Then why buy them. Go buy a beemer. I was aware of the potential shortcomings of my 21 TLX-S, but weighed the competition (only G70 3.3T, as S4/5 and M340 were too pricey and to expensive to maintain). SH-AWD was a significant plus and reliability has become a big difference.. I actually like the track pad, as I miss buttons on my wife's touch screen car.

Type-S the Black

In this instance, it is my conclusion that your presentation isnt a rights based argument.

It is one however, where-in it seems to me at least, that you dont skip too many opportunities, to skull drag the vehicle and the maker of same, (Acura/Honda) in a forum where people come to learn, discuss or exchange information/ ideas, tips etc about Acuras.

Maybe a thread on how Hondas & Acuras are crap, or a thread titled, Should'a bought a beemer started by you, will help to alleviate some of your frustrations.

In the interim, it isnt too much of a stretch to understand that really anything, made by human beings will have flaws, no matter the item, brand, make etc.

But a little decorum, on occasion goes a long way.

Cheers.

Baksju

Bro are you a little slow? OP is asking for advice regarding a car purchase, are you telling me Acura has no flaws? I just told him what I think regarding a couple of models lol

Jim2301

I'm curious... Which of your recommendations will fit the OP's desired criteria and budget of $35K??

Baksju

Used 530/540/m340/x3m40

Type-S the Black

For those even slower, .. breh.. this has nothing to do with model recognition, recommendation or your closeted beemer love fetish.. it has everything to do with your lack of decorum, your attitude and now your overt deflection.

Like I said ALL automobiles and everything else ever built or created, even the most meticulously crafted items, have flaws, because they're made by human beings. Don't like Acura's even though you own 2? cool.. Don't like the others for some other reason? Also cool,

The only recommendations you seem interested in providing, are for overpriced German vehicles, which more or less absolutely tank mechanically after about 75-80K miles and which he probably cant afford to maintain, even if he is able to purchase it initially

But this is still an A-C-U-R-A forum. So maybe find something reasonable to say to the guy about what you do happen to like (if that exists) about the products that you and your wife own right now. The guy is obviously considering an ACURA based off of his price point. Ergo why hes here.. on an ACURA forum.

You could've simply said, " I own 2 Acura's and have owned many in the past. They have a host of issues and or problems that I have experienced.. etc etc. I would recommend against their purchase, even used." and left it go at that. Easy peasy..

ELIN

Should take your own advice from here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/6g-tlx-.../#post16921752

No one had my back when everyone was piling on so how does it feel?

Baksju

<3 you too even though you lurk through my posts every time I comment on something lmao

ELIN

We should have been on the same side (especially since you've been recommending bimmers of late) but you chose to defend Acura's honor at the time (a mere 7 months ago).

Oh, and don't kid yourself (lurking? really?)! Before a recent run of posts, I enjoyed a 2 month break from AZ. I still keep in touch w/members here, especially if they're picking my brain concerning a possible transition away from Acura...

ELIN

All the possible cars you mentioned have horrible fuel economy. If you're ok w/that, have you considered getting into an SUV that's going to be better for your back AND sporty? A 2020 or 2021 X3 M40i can probably be had for close to $35k!

https://www.edmunds.com/car-comparis...veh4=401866228

GhostTL09

iTrader: (1)

Poor OP. That man couldn't even get the information he needed before this turned into another turd thread on Azine. The man asked about Acura and we couldn't deliver. Embarrassing.

OP at minimum get the Aspec, model. A few extras above the Tech trim. If you want bells and whistles getvthe Advance. You should find one just off leave for the price range you're in. I would whole heartedly recommend the SHAWDY. You'll appreciate it when you need handling in weather and also in a dicey driver scenario where you need to dodge an idiot on the road.

Do you think getting in and out will be an issue in a sedan. TlX is low, not as low as a Vette, but it takes some work and I'm 45.

Baksju

bro literally pretty much everyone gave him suggestions regarding what to buy, their good/bad experiences etc, i feel like if someone doesnt praise honda and have only positive things to say gets treated like a troll lol grow up its just a car brand, you might choose to be loyal to them but theyre a corporation and dont give a single F about you

ELIN

Not cool. If you choose to ignore the suggestions that have been made, that's on you!

Your A-Spec or Advance trim rec might have made sense if the OP didn't mention "long road trips". From personal experience, the 1-1.5 times gas fill-up per week on my departed 4 cylinder TLX gave me enough gas anxiety that long road trips would have been way more comfortable in an equivalent SUV. For the record, my 4 cylinder X3 needs a fill-up every other week similar to all the other cars I've owned before that! Here's a screenshot of a decently long trip:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-rdx-.../#post16892072

MarcoTLX

OP you should really get a 2017+ Acura NSX, great prices used. $35k down should get you a nice monthly payment at a 72 month term. You can easily get in and out of the car and will have all the niceties one will expect from Acura /s

MarcoTLX

Where can you find a M340 for $35k???? Not in my area I know. youll find 330i xdrives all day long at that price point but an M340i at $35k you'll be scavenging for awhile lol

ELIN

A used ‘20 or ‘21 X3 M40i can be had for $35k so I can’t see why the slightly cheaper M340i can’t be had for similar!

Let me also add that you can prob get a discounted extended warranty on a ‘21 as well!

Flapjackura

It all depends on your specific priorities. I'm late 50's with tendonitis in my left leg that comes and goes, but even during flare-ups I have no trouble getting into my '21 A-Spec.

If you prioritize or care even a little bit about audio, you'll want an A-Spec or higher to get the ELS 17 speaker system, otherwise, in 2021 to 2023 models the Tech package gets you the 10-speaker ELS system. The ELS system is just incredible and deserves all the praise it gets.

For me, MPG averages 25 mpg in suburban driving, and I can usually achieve 30-31 mpg on road trips - but I don't have a heavy foot.

My standards regarding performance are at simpleton levels compared to enthusiasts - LOL! But the car is fast enough for me - even though I do understand why the enthusiasts bash the TLX. If you're not in sport mode, the turbo lag is extremely noticeable to the point that I thought there was something wrong with my transmission the first time I floored it in normal mode.

Otherwise, I love the car - in my opinion, it and the current Lexus IS are the best-looking sedans on the road, the car is comfortable and just feels very solid and conveys a mature, authoritative vibe of sportiness without being obnoxious.

I think the only other car you are considering that might be a good idea to at least test drive to compare would be a G70; mainly because the feature content is a bit better, and if performance matters to you it pretty much always gets better reviews than the TLX. I'm guessing at your budget you could find a fully loaded one quite easily.

PRP5150

There's no question BMW's B58 inline 6 turbo is legendary. And yes, so far reliability has been decent. But, as with all other BMW's - and I've owned 2 of them - the cooling system is not built to last. Those plastic couplings will only withstand so many heating / cooling cycles before they fail. And it's not just the plastic couplings on the hoses, it's generally the entire system. If you plan on long term BMW ownership, make sure you budget for a complete cooling system overhaul.

Honda / Acura still use the old school hose clamps which are robust and stand the test of time.

GhostTL09

iTrader: (1)

Idk if your speaking in general or to me. The thread turned into a pissing contest with people calling each other retarded, based on their opinion. As I stated it turned into a turd thread just like mentioning Honda/Acura doesn't give a fukc about me. However, I'm assuming your speaking in general because you don't know me to address me in such a fashion.

GhostTL09

iTrader: (1)

[QUOTE=ELIN;16949637]Not cool. If you choose to ignore the suggestions that have been made, that's on you!

Your A-Spec or Advance trim rec might have made sense if the OP didn't mention "long road trips". From personal experience, the 1-1.5 times gas fill-up per week on my departed 4 cylinder TLX gave me enough gas anxiety that long road trips would have been way more comfortable in an equivalent SUV. For the record, my 4 cylinder X3 needs a fill-up every other week similar to all the other cars I've owned before that!

Again, OP asked about sedans and your mentioning a SUV/CUV. Why? What does Advance vs. Aspec, Tech, vs. Base trim have to do with long road trips? If long road trips are a concern then suggest a Nissan Sentra that will get mpg in the high 30s. He can drive from Atlanta to Baltimore on a single tank damn near.

ELIN

Funny how nearly any thread that has a bit of criticism for Acura is a "turd thread". I'm in multiple car forums and they are way more open-minded to criticism (some well deserved), including Bimmerpost.
Someone mentioned the lack of activity in AZ may be due to the dying sedan segment. I honestly think it's the Acura boosters driving any critics away and the lack of "free speech".

The Kool-Aid may taste good in the beginning but remember that everything has an expiration date!

ELIN

My CUV rec was specifically because the OP is 75 years old and I remembered how low and difficult it was to get in and out of the TLX! I qualified my rec with this:
"If you're ok w/that, have you considered getting into an SUV that's going to be better for your back AND sporty?"

PLP-94

@Jim2301 Curious how far off your old-school mileage calculations are to the computer results? 1%? 5%?

ELIN

The MY20 TLX was a different beast and way more conventional than the current generation. Fuel economy numbers (especially in real-world) won't be close b/w the 2 generations!

GhostTL09

iTrader: (1)

Wrong ELIN. My comment for the last time is based on posters calling each other names, like "slow" because of their differences of opinion. That is what turned it to a "turd thread". Are we all clear now. I didn't mention anything about defending Acura. Can we agree on that? This is also part of the poison on the forum is that people read and understand it (negatively) the way they want to and not for how it was intended or written.

ELIN

Ok, so one person making an offensive comment automatically makes this a "turd thread"? I guess 90% of internet threads are "turd threads"! LOL

Legend2TL

That's OK since you're being a fraud/liar accusing me of something I never said. But sure go ahead and accuse others of being offensive and portray yourself as the victim.

https://acurazine.com/forums/automot.../#post16949982

ELIN

I already apologized in the other thread (misremembered). If you want to continue to make an example of me, you do you!