fiatlux

The Integra Tech package is built on top of the Civic Touring feature set, so you would think it would have everything the Touring has. Not having Homelink is a huge head scratcher; I’d rather have that than the “ambient lighting” it claims to have.

richii0207

You can always add more ambient lighting if factory isn’t enough.

Tony Pac

hahaha! best one!

mike03a3

I agree. As near as I can tell, every Honda/Acura model and trim has had Homelink since 2007. We certainly used it on our Accords, the Pilot and my TL-S.
Acura is supposed to be the upscale end of the Honda line. Leaving features out is inexplicable to me. At least it has a HUD.

mike03a3

I agree. I've used the in-dash Nav since they became available, I understand making it an option, which was done for years on the Accords. With or Without Nav, my family always got the Nav. Not having it at all, along with no Homelink, certainly will cost some customers.

Tesla1856

We started using it in 2004, when our 2004 Accord-V6 EL-X was brand new. Left-Door, Right-Door, and the Neighborhood Gate is button #3.

Not everyone has a newer Smart Garage-Door-Opener. I can't imagine having to use my phone ... might as well just clip the remote back on the sun-visor.

ELIN

Having lived w/o a HUD for 20+ years of driving, I have never neeed a HUD.

Avoiding stepping out in the pouring rain/snow to open the garage or constanly replacing OEM garage opener battery is far more practical I think.

mike03a3

And I went over 65 years of driving without a HUD. Now that I've had one for half a year I hate to drive my wife's Pilot that lacks it.
Do I need it? No, I manage to drive the Pilot without it, but I sure miss it.
I also drove without power brakes, anti-skid brakes, power steering and dozens of other items that are now basic technology.

Tony Pac

Team - can we please keep the threads a bit more relevant. It doesn't help when people go around the circle and add irrelevant content. Or topics that have been discussed million times. I will create a fresh thread and call it TLX vs. THE CAR INDUSTRY, you can have all your discussion there about Acura TLX and the rest including Tata Nano....

thanks you!

ELIN

My option was to pay b/w $60-70k for the privilege of a HUD in the X3 M40i. I declined....this time...

F23A4

Here’s another one:

fiatlux

The Type S is screwed; it looks like Sam will be the one in the drivers seat. Even a B58 motor may not be enough to overcome the Sam factor.

MarcoTLX

why does he keep doing this to the Acura it’s like he intentionally wants people to trash the TLX in the comments cause that’s mainly what the comments are under the video.

ELIN

YTer will always play to the crowd and reinforce what gets likes and subscribers.

He definitely doesn't have many fans in AZ...

richii0207

Watching automatic cars drag race is as exciting as watching paint dry. Never know when someone will mis-shift or or launcher poorly with launch control enabled.

fiatlux

Just wait, the moment the Type S actually wins a race because he’s driving the other car, he’ll be the belle of the ball for some folks here.

fiatlux

Also kind of funny that people thinks he's a TLX hater when he liked it...

ELIN

It may be justified as he keeps choosing to race with the TLX! LOL!

mike03a3

Is it just me, or is he neglecting to use launch control??

I doubt is would beat the Merc (which launches from a dig like it's got a tune), but the Type-S should do better than it does with him driving. I'm pretty sure he'd find a way to lose if he was driving an M5.

fiatlux

I doubt he used launch control because from past video it looks like he never does. In fact I don’t even know if he brake torques cars.

That said, in the case of the Type S I don’t think it really matters. Its launch control (if you can even call it that) is only 2100RPMs, which is pitifully low for a turbocharged AWD car.

bilirubin

Yeah the Type S launch control isn't that aggressive compared to the competition. It would be nice to see them race without using brake boosting or launch control as a more "real world" comparison.

ijm5012

And how many people commenting on his video are even in a financial position to buy a new TLX?

That’s why I don’t care what random people on the internet have to think.

Tony Pac

You nailed it!

Sam is a super nice guy and I actually support him. He tries his best to bring something exciting for his viewers. But sadly, he cannot drive. No matter what car you give him, he will lose
Sam is not against Acura or TLX, but I can tell you one thing that Acura probably brings him the most money. We all know based on this forum that TLX and TLX TYPE S have created insane buzz in the car industry for almost 3 years now. Those who love it or hate it, regardless comment, view and have an interest in this car. So when Sam does his drag races or reviews the TLX, he gets more clicks. No one cares about C43 or Q50. These cars are stale. Since, 2019 Acura has done a great job marketing their cars and brining one of the best lineups in the industry!

Way to go Honda and Acura! Bring the RDX TYPE S now

Kense

LOL the cars are automatics, it doesn’t require much other than quick reflexes. It doesn’t matter who was driving the car it’s going to lose against the C43 and the RS. The reason he keeps bringing on the TLX is because Acura fans keep asking him to, he’s mentioned this before but outside of that to say nobody cares is just being a fanboy. The C43 was just revamped and plenty of people are interested in how the new one is even though the one in the video is then outgoing model. The Infiniti yes nobody cares about Infiniti, the Q60 is dead and the Q50 is so dated it’s pathetic.

Tony Pac

It's all about the $$$! Who brings more money to these youtubers....no one cares how C43 drives. Everyone is invested and want to know how TLX is....TLX is the car that fanboys and non fanboys are interested. At this point, we all know the TLX is not a fast car. So why over and over people ask? The answer to that question is, TLX is the car that standout in a competitive market and the design and functionality are better than all of the others. 80-90% of buyers don't car if 0-60 is a friction of a second is slower.

Just look at this forum, everyone is talking about the TLX, good or bad. But people talk and have an interest. Otherwise, why would you waste your time! 2 years in a row, TLX has created an insane amount of buzz in the car industry! Well done Acura/Honda team!

Kense

There’s a reason why he hardly has super car races, he races cars most people can afford and want to see because it’s more realistic. Acura has a lot of fan support and he’s mentioned it several times they keep asking him to bring a TLX to go against x, y , z car. Unless you have data to back up your 80-90% don’t care then you’re just pulling out random numbers. That’s an enthusiast site and enthusiasts care about that otherwise why not just get the A spec? Of course speed matters and he doesn’t even Dragy zero to 60 times. If you go to other car forums nobody is talking about the TLX so you know who is asking him to keep bringing it on.

Tony Pac

Great summary and feedback! I do not have the data to back it up, but I just use common sense. Most of the enthusiasts that want high HP and 0-60 in 4 seconds will only buy this car when the value drops 40-50%

What's the average age and household income of a $60K (USA) and almost $75K(CAD) car buyer? I can say with confident that most buyers are not 25 years old and earn $80K.

Just based on people that I know and their cars are in the range of $60-$75K, their average age is 35+ and household income of at least $250K CAD. Sure they love cars and performance but non of these people race or buy a Type S or S4 for any other reason that daily commute. Now those who can afford $100K-$200K, sure they care about speed and HP. i put those buyers in a different bucket.

ELIN

My fully loaded X3 retailed nearly the same as the TLX Type S and I don't make anywhere near $250k CAD ($183,400 based on today's rates).

I should move to Canada!

Tony Pac

Well I won't comment on your finance and personal life. I just shared about myself who I know and how much on average they make. It's a sensitive topic and I won't offend anyone. but yes, you should move to Canada. We will welcome you with open heart

richii0207

As someone in their early 30s, I limit my auto loan monthly payments to no more than an average day’s pay but I’m pretty conservative compared to what I hear others are paying.

Kense

The average car cost in the US is 50K and most people here regardless of age are taking out long loans to get them , there's people making 50K a year buying 100K cars. There is a reason why you see so many Mustangs, Scatpacks and Hellcats. They are relatively cheap and fast, people want to go fast otherwise cars would not be getting these higher previous sportscar level HP numbers you see now on even some base model cars. Also 100K-200K car isn't always a performance car, many people who pay that for those cars are buying SUV's and Luxury cars like an S Class. Plenty of people not paying 6 figures for a car want to go fast.

Tony Pac

Tbh, I just don't want to comment on the finance of people and offend anyone. But if you are making $50K or $70K a year and buying a $50-60K car, there is a something wrong. That said, I will leave it here as I may offend people and it's not fair to judge anyone. All i can say people that I know and who owns $50K and plus cars, they don't make $50 or $100K.

The rest I leave it to you to make your conclusions!

MarcoTLX

well it all depends on someone’s situation as every car buyer’s situation is different. Some of us live with parents and don’t pay big bills like rent, utilities, etc. so it makes it easier to spend more of our income on flashier/faster cars.

Some of us may instead be married to a spouse who makes enough money to carry household bills and such from their income alone. So it frees up income for us to spend more of our income on a faster car etc. so long as the spouse is ok with their partner spending a lot of their income on a car.

twitchy15

everyones situation is different but unless you making 150k++++ buying an expensive car is never a great financial choice.

Living with your parents and spending most of your money on a expensive vehicle does not sound super smart unless you plan to live with them longterm.

if your household income with your wife is high could make it easier but I think most wives would be annoyed if most of the money they make is to pay for normal stuff and the dude is blowing it all on his car lol.

I absolutely love the TLX type s and am thinking of buying but price is quite a bit but a lot interest rates are insane.

But car prices are just high now most SUVS in Canada are basically getting close to 50,000 like the Honda CRV which is crazy

ELIN

I forgot one very important point concerning Canadian vs US wages: don't most Canadians give half their salary back to the government in taxes?

This is a huge difference and make's Tony's original $250k CAD a much more reasonable number.

bilirubin

Not true.
Taxes are just over 50% for salary greater than $220k CAD (about $160k USD) and just over 40% for salary greater than $100k CAD (about $75k USD).
The median salary in Canada is about $55k CAD and the average salary is about $65k CAD, both of which has just under a 30% tax rate.

Tony Pac

the 50% doesn't apply to all salaries but unfortunately, the taxes are high in Canada. Quebec, where I live is one of the worst.

Tony Pac

Rest in Peace the best car of the century. The sales numbers and customer feedback were so good that Kia couldn't keep up with the demand, so decided to put their best selling car in rest. They did not want to offend all the enthusiast But good news, PMC is too expensive, go get one of the 1,000 special units that will be build for the true, true enthusiast!

ESHBG

You'll be saying the same about the TLX soon.

bilirubin

source needed
Wasn't a TLX MMC already spotted?