Cross Traffic Monitoring
10-23-2014, 11:43 AM
#41
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When I back up- I may initially look at the MID- but then I turn my head around and don't stare at the screen. So, I don't care so much about the arrows, but instead "rely" on the audio warning. Since the beep doesn't exist in my Tech car- this issue is not trivial to me, but rather critical for this particular feature.
I'll turn around and look if I can - however when backing out of a spot in a parking garage/lot with two tall trucks beside me it's useless to turn and look - this is when the cross traffic monitor comes into play and the arrows do their job.
That said - I don't disagree that they should take this seriously and should be attentive to a fix however IMO it's not something I'm going to worry about. When the TSB arrives (and surely it will) then I'll have it serviced when my car is due for an oil change.
Cheers!
10-23-2014, 03:46 PM
#42
Burning Brakes
10-31-2014, 11:56 AM
#43
Burning Brakes
Today's One-Pack mentioned the cross-traffic monitor. Acura said they have read the online posts about it. 
Neat.
Neat.
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NJToyMan (10-31-2014)
10-31-2014, 01:02 PM
#44
For what it is worth, I test drove a 2.4 Tech earlier this week and I definitely got the beeping for the cross traffic monitor (cars passing on the road as I was backing out of the driveway). In fact, I was a little surprised the first time I heard it based on this forum, so I waited and let more cars go by...it beeped each time. This was obviously a recent build (just arrived on their lot within the week), so maybe it has been addressed at the factory?
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tlxsteve (10-31-2014)
10-31-2014, 02:28 PM
#45
Burning Brakes
For what it is worth, I test drove a 2.4 Tech earlier this week and I definitely got the beeping for the cross traffic monitor (cars passing on the road as I was backing out of the driveway). In fact, I was a little surprised the first time I heard it based on this forum, so I waited and let more cars go by...it beeped each time. This was obviously a recent build (just arrived on their lot within the week), so maybe it has been addressed at the factory?
Maybe it's in the software update that came out yesterday?
Here's hoping.
10-31-2014, 04:03 PM
#46
I hope that something good is finally happening!
Considering that I was the one (about 2 months ago) that "officially" opened the case with Acura Client Relations regarding this issue- I would think that I would have received at least a call to give me a heads up that a fix is in... but so far, I've heard nothing from them.
Maybe I pissed them off from hocking them every week : )
Considering that I was the one (about 2 months ago) that "officially" opened the case with Acura Client Relations regarding this issue- I would think that I would have received at least a call to give me a heads up that a fix is in... but so far, I've heard nothing from them.
Maybe I pissed them off from hocking them every week : )
11-10-2014, 11:23 AM
#47
Had my 2.4 Tech for about 2 weeks now and can vouch that, based on my experience in a mall parking lot on Friday night and backing out of my in-laws driveway Saturday, my cross-traffic warning did give an audible beep.
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11-11-2014, 06:47 PM
#48
Sounds like something was fixed.
11-14-2014, 10:14 AM
#49
Yesterday, I brought my V6 Tech to the dealer for the ODMD update.
I can verify that this software update does NOT fix the issue with the missing audible warning for the Cross Traffic Warning System.
However, to add insult to injury- the V6 Tech loaner car I got (which had 12 miles on it) DID have the working "beep". (According to the ODMD, my car AND the loaner car now both have the same software version (3.00.2d05)- so, it ain't THAT software!!)
Seems that Acura has now fixed the missing beep in all Tech units on the PRODUCTION line (since the end of October), but there is still not a fix available for the Tech cars produced before about November 1st.
My service manager had the Acura rep visiting his dealership while my car was there; and they apparently spoke with engineering who confirmed that it will be at least another month or two before they will be able to address this issue for existing Tech cars. They still claim that it will be a software update (rather than a hardware module).
It seems quite strange to me that since NEWLY produced cars are being loaded with the correctly operating software- how hard could it be to get the "right stuff" in my car?? Well, apparently it's not so easy to make "official releases". My dealer also said that the software can potentially come in many different ways- either on DVD (like the ODMD update); via download from a laptop; via a PROM installed in a module; or even via ACURA Link.
I guess time will tell! And by the way- although I just had the loaner car one day- having the "audible beep" actually was very useful and helpful as I backed out of my parking space- and I already miss it as I got my "old" car back!!
I can verify that this software update does NOT fix the issue with the missing audible warning for the Cross Traffic Warning System.
However, to add insult to injury- the V6 Tech loaner car I got (which had 12 miles on it) DID have the working "beep". (According to the ODMD, my car AND the loaner car now both have the same software version (3.00.2d05)- so, it ain't THAT software!!)
Seems that Acura has now fixed the missing beep in all Tech units on the PRODUCTION line (since the end of October), but there is still not a fix available for the Tech cars produced before about November 1st.
My service manager had the Acura rep visiting his dealership while my car was there; and they apparently spoke with engineering who confirmed that it will be at least another month or two before they will be able to address this issue for existing Tech cars. They still claim that it will be a software update (rather than a hardware module).
It seems quite strange to me that since NEWLY produced cars are being loaded with the correctly operating software- how hard could it be to get the "right stuff" in my car?? Well, apparently it's not so easy to make "official releases". My dealer also said that the software can potentially come in many different ways- either on DVD (like the ODMD update); via download from a laptop; via a PROM installed in a module; or even via ACURA Link.
I guess time will tell! And by the way- although I just had the loaner car one day- having the "audible beep" actually was very useful and helpful as I backed out of my parking space- and I already miss it as I got my "old" car back!!
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Davinci547Acura (11-14-2014)
11-14-2014, 11:37 AM
#50
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Yesterday, I brought my V6 Tech to the dealer for the ODMD update.
I can verify that this software update does NOT fix the issue with the missing audible warning for the Cross Traffic Warning System.
However, to add insult to injury- the V6 Tech loaner car I got (which had 12 miles on it) DID have the working "beep". (According to the ODMD, my car AND the loaner car now both have the same software version (3.00.2d05)- so, it ain't THAT software!!)
Seems that Acura has now fixed the missing beep in all Tech units on the PRODUCTION line (since the end of October), but there is still not a fix available for the Tech cars produced before about November 1st.
My service manager had the Acura rep visiting his dealership while my car was there; and they apparently spoke with engineering who confirmed that it will be at least another month or two before they will be able to address this issue for existing Tech cars. They still claim that it will be a software update (rather than a hardware module).
It seems quite strange to me that since NEWLY produced cars are being loaded with the correctly operating software- how hard could it be to get the "right stuff" in my car?? Well, apparently it's not so easy to make "official releases". My dealer also said that the software can potentially come in many different ways- either on DVD (like the ODMD update); via download from a laptop; via a PROM installed in a module; or even via ACURA Link.
I guess time will tell! And by the way- although I just had the loaner car one day- having the "audible beep" actually was very useful and helpful as I backed out of my parking space- and I already miss it as I got my "old" car back!!
I can verify that this software update does NOT fix the issue with the missing audible warning for the Cross Traffic Warning System.
However, to add insult to injury- the V6 Tech loaner car I got (which had 12 miles on it) DID have the working "beep". (According to the ODMD, my car AND the loaner car now both have the same software version (3.00.2d05)- so, it ain't THAT software!!)
Seems that Acura has now fixed the missing beep in all Tech units on the PRODUCTION line (since the end of October), but there is still not a fix available for the Tech cars produced before about November 1st.
My service manager had the Acura rep visiting his dealership while my car was there; and they apparently spoke with engineering who confirmed that it will be at least another month or two before they will be able to address this issue for existing Tech cars. They still claim that it will be a software update (rather than a hardware module).
It seems quite strange to me that since NEWLY produced cars are being loaded with the correctly operating software- how hard could it be to get the "right stuff" in my car?? Well, apparently it's not so easy to make "official releases". My dealer also said that the software can potentially come in many different ways- either on DVD (like the ODMD update); via download from a laptop; via a PROM installed in a module; or even via ACURA Link.
I guess time will tell! And by the way- although I just had the loaner car one day- having the "audible beep" actually was very useful and helpful as I backed out of my parking space- and I already miss it as I got my "old" car back!!
Do have a question for you please. My update was made at a dealer I don't normally frequent. When the car was returned to me, showed on NAV screen that update had completed only 23%. Four days later it is finally up to 54%. Was your car returned with update completed or still updating? Thanks,
11-14-2014, 01:39 PM
#51
The loaner car I got was being updated, and given to me at 5%; it took almost 5 hours of the car being "ON" for the update to complete.
When I picked up MY car, it was at 20%. I haven't driven it enough yet for the update to complete (I am at 85% now). My understanding is that all the "functionality" of the update (new menus and changes) is completely present when they give you back the car; the "% updating" is simply the database for the map data rebuilding, and is very unnoticeable in the background. It is completely fine to shut off and restart the car several times until the rebuild is complete.
One thing to note: With the update, all paired phone data is wiped clean and you must re-pair all phone(s) again. Not a big deal.
When I picked up MY car, it was at 20%. I haven't driven it enough yet for the update to complete (I am at 85% now). My understanding is that all the "functionality" of the update (new menus and changes) is completely present when they give you back the car; the "% updating" is simply the database for the map data rebuilding, and is very unnoticeable in the background. It is completely fine to shut off and restart the car several times until the rebuild is complete.
One thing to note: With the update, all paired phone data is wiped clean and you must re-pair all phone(s) again. Not a big deal.
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11-14-2014, 02:25 PM
#52
Burning Brakes
Good to know. I figure I will wait till my first oil change. Maybe service pack 2 will be out by then.
11-19-2014, 06:18 AM
#53
Yesterday, I brought my V6 Tech to the dealer for the ODMD update.
I can verify that this software update does NOT fix the issue with the missing audible warning for the Cross Traffic Warning System.
However, to add insult to injury- the V6 Tech loaner car I got (which had 12 miles on it) DID have the working "beep". (According to the ODMD, my car AND the loaner car now both have the same software version (3.00.2d05)- so, it ain't THAT software!!)
Seems that Acura has now fixed the missing beep in all Tech units on the PRODUCTION line (since the end of October), but there is still not a fix available for the Tech cars produced before about November 1st.
My service manager had the Acura rep visiting his dealership while my car was there; and they apparently spoke with engineering who confirmed that it will be at least another month or two before they will be able to address this issue for existing Tech cars. They still claim that it will be a software update (rather than a hardware module).
It seems quite strange to me that since NEWLY produced cars are being loaded with the correctly operating software- how hard could it be to get the "right stuff" in my car?? Well, apparently it's not so easy to make "official releases". My dealer also said that the software can potentially come in many different ways- either on DVD (like the ODMD update); via download from a laptop; via a PROM installed in a module; or even via ACURA Link.
I guess time will tell! And by the way- although I just had the loaner car one day- having the "audible beep" actually was very useful and helpful as I backed out of my parking space- and I already miss it as I got my "old" car back!!
I can verify that this software update does NOT fix the issue with the missing audible warning for the Cross Traffic Warning System.
However, to add insult to injury- the V6 Tech loaner car I got (which had 12 miles on it) DID have the working "beep". (According to the ODMD, my car AND the loaner car now both have the same software version (3.00.2d05)- so, it ain't THAT software!!)
Seems that Acura has now fixed the missing beep in all Tech units on the PRODUCTION line (since the end of October), but there is still not a fix available for the Tech cars produced before about November 1st.
My service manager had the Acura rep visiting his dealership while my car was there; and they apparently spoke with engineering who confirmed that it will be at least another month or two before they will be able to address this issue for existing Tech cars. They still claim that it will be a software update (rather than a hardware module).
It seems quite strange to me that since NEWLY produced cars are being loaded with the correctly operating software- how hard could it be to get the "right stuff" in my car?? Well, apparently it's not so easy to make "official releases". My dealer also said that the software can potentially come in many different ways- either on DVD (like the ODMD update); via download from a laptop; via a PROM installed in a module; or even via ACURA Link.
I guess time will tell! And by the way- although I just had the loaner car one day- having the "audible beep" actually was very useful and helpful as I backed out of my parking space- and I already miss it as I got my "old" car back!!
11-19-2014, 07:42 PM
#54
Moderator
It's worth it - still love my TLX!
11-19-2014, 08:01 PM
#55
Burning Brakes
11-20-2014, 08:47 AM
#56
Well you definitely don't want to be the first TLX that your dealer does the software upgrade on. Although they have done a few MDX's mine was the first TLX. This is Day 3 that they have had it. Dealer states that they are having an issue with getting the software to install.
11-20-2014, 09:56 AM
#57
Burning Brakes
Well you definitely don't want to be the first TLX that your dealer does the software upgrade on. Although they have done a few MDX's mine was the first TLX. This is Day 3 that they have had it. Dealer states that they are having an issue with getting the software to install.
11-20-2014, 05:13 PM
#58
Well you definitely don't want to be the first TLX that your dealer does the software upgrade on. Although they have done a few MDX's mine was the first TLX. This is Day 3 that they have had it. Dealer states that they are having an issue with getting the software to install.
11-24-2014, 08:00 PM
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11-24-2014, 08:13 PM
#61
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Can I be redeemed by saying I wish I could find and own a new 2008 3G TL Black on Black. I miss my 3G TL's sooooo bad.
11-24-2014, 09:06 PM
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11-25-2014, 10:41 AM
#63
Burning Brakes
12-29-2014, 03:04 PM
#65
Had this TSB update performed on my car today (along with my first oil change), and I am very happy to report that, after waiting 4 months, my car is finally beeping when the arrows appear in the cross traffic monitor!
Yay!
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01-02-2015, 12:21 AM
#66
Racer
Is this cross traffic monitor only for backing out of a parking spot (in reverse) or does this help at all during day to day driving, on top of the BSI?
This video seems to suggest that it is only for backing up?
This video seems to suggest that it is only for backing up?
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01-02-2015, 08:46 AM
#68
Racer
Before watching the video, I thought it was a high tech complement to the BSI when the car was moving in a forward direction. At least now I know it is for backing out of a parking slot
01-04-2015, 07:10 PM
#69
I totally understand where you're coming from (my 2.4 Tech shows the arrows but doesn't beep) however I see it as a fairly trivial issue. The arrows *do* show up - so if I'm backing up from a tight spot with blind spots on either side I'm going to do so very slowly while watching the MID. If I see the arrows I stop and wait. Sure it would be nice to have a loud beep alert me as well - but the fact of the matter is the feature *does* work - it just doesn't offer the full functionality as advertised.
When you start the car and place the gear into reverse- the rear view camera image comes up- but there is a lag (of up to 10 seconds) while the system boots and the yellow "guidelines" appear. If a car comes into range DURING this "boot up time", the detection arrows DO NOT appear.
HOWEVER- the beeping DOES occur IMMEDIATELY (even if the system isn't fully booted up)- so, it offers WAY more notice than just the arrows alone.
Thus, in the practical world- when you are in a parking lot and start your car- and immediately put the car into reverse to start backing up- you will hear the beep warning FIRST (and maybe save your rear) well before any arrows finally show up!!!
The BEEP is WAY BETTER than the arrows!!!!!
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tlxsteve (01-19-2015)
01-29-2015, 05:13 PM
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So, my understanding is that anyone with a TLX V6 Tech (the 4 cylinder is supposidly not affected) that had the Cross Traffic Monitor software update performed- needs to have the "idle learn procedure" performed after the update, as fuel economy and "other things" will be affected.
I believe that Acura recently amended their original December TSB about the Cross Traffic Update to reflect this extra step that the dealers must do.
I had my software updated in December, and had to bring the car back this past week to get the Idle Learn done.
I believe that Acura recently amended their original December TSB about the Cross Traffic Update to reflect this extra step that the dealers must do.
I had my software updated in December, and had to bring the car back this past week to get the Idle Learn done.
01-29-2015, 05:35 PM
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So, my understanding is that anyone with a TLX V6 Tech (the 4 cylinder is supposidly not affected) that had the Cross Traffic Monitor software update performed- needs to have the "idle learn procedure" performed after the update, as fuel economy and "other things" will be affected.
I believe that Acura recently amended their original December TSB about the Cross Traffic Update to reflect this extra step that the dealers must do.
I had my software updated in December, and had to bring the car back this past week to get the Idle Learn done.
I believe that Acura recently amended their original December TSB about the Cross Traffic Update to reflect this extra step that the dealers must do.
I had my software updated in December, and had to bring the car back this past week to get the Idle Learn done.
The TSB was revised to reset the PCM and then do the idle learn procedure on V6 models only, after performing the software update.
You shouldn't need to go back to the dealer if you already had the software update under the previous revision of the TSB. The car will do the idle learn over time.
Here is the information from Acura:
"Dear Service Manager,
This issue applies to the TLX with V6 ONLY.
The METER reflash process for Cross Traffic Monitoring System inadvertently erases the idle characteristics learned by the PCM, and the HDS shows Idle Torque Learning as “Not Completed.” The drivability symptoms which can result from this condition range from harsh 2-1 downshift, high rpm at idle, surging coming to a stop, and idle fluctuation.
Once the reflash process is complete and all the DTC’s are cleared, reset the PCM using the HDS and follow the “Idle Learn Procedure” in the service manual. These additional steps take 0.2hrs to complete and needs to be added to the flat rate of 0.5hrs on the V6 models only".
01-30-2015, 10:15 AM
#74
^^^ If the car essentially does the "idle learn" automatically on its own over time, why does the dealer need to bother doing it in the first place?? Is it for more "immediate gratification?".
Also, will the car essentially "unlearn" the procedure over time by driving habits- which could explain why people report their shifts are great for a while after the dealer "fixes it", but then the harsh shifting returns a few days or weeks later???
Also, will the car essentially "unlearn" the procedure over time by driving habits- which could explain why people report their shifts are great for a while after the dealer "fixes it", but then the harsh shifting returns a few days or weeks later???
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^^^ If the car essentially does the "idle learn" automatically on its own over time, why does the dealer need to bother doing it in the first place?? Is it for more "immediate gratification?".
Also, will the car essentially "unlearn" the procedure over time by driving habits- which could explain why people report their shifts are great for a while after the dealer "fixes it", but then the harsh shifting returns a few days or weeks later???
Also, will the car essentially "unlearn" the procedure over time by driving habits- which could explain why people report their shifts are great for a while after the dealer "fixes it", but then the harsh shifting returns a few days or weeks later???
With regards to "unlearning" the procedure over time. It doesn't affect the idle, but the transmission shifting could change. Perhaps that is what others are reporting. Although a transmission software update should be available soon, based on other reports in other threads.
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