neil0311

I never take my car to a car wash where anyone touches it but me, so no problem.

Even if I did, the same issue would exist whether it's a button or a knob or a stick coming out of the console. You realize the whole thing is electronic, so there are no linkages.

Quandry

Annd no doubt in the 10-2 position

keith7120

I've had several 5 speed manuals in my younger day, so the natural progression from manual to auto is to leave the stick in the console. However, my older brethren will tell you about the good ole steering column shifters.

jamf

This!
And it's also easier to get a quick BJ from the wife in the car without the shifter jabbing her in the gut, thats my job.

Mr Hyde

That's a very easy thing to overcome. Car wash mode is great for the owner, not so much for someone not familiar with our cars.

Once you get out of the car, just turn around, and buckle the drivers side seatbelt with no one sitting in it. The seatbelt is what controls the safety lockouts in the transmission. Open the door with your seatbelt on, and the car will stay in gear, but as soon as you unclick the seatbelt with the door open, the car will shift into park.

F23A4

Good info Mr Hyde.

Saintor

When I bought my TLX V6 with buttons / paddles, I couldn't think but hey even Ferrari has it!

Paddles work.... but transmission buttons need more focus and are less intuitiive; they became a two-steps process. Visualize and select. Before you didn't even have to look at it; a shifter doesn't require you to double-check as much.

neil0311

I disagree completely. The buttons require much less focus. You can tell by feel whether it's R or D. On is a backwards pull, the other is a push of a big round button.

Saintor

Well you overlooked the one I have most problem; P!!!!!

Many times I was going to leave and the car emitted signals... wasn't in P. Not intuitive at all.

youngTL

Just press the engine OFF button. It'll shift to P on its own.

sbillard

How so. I've had this issue with the RDX loaner with a shift lever. I got so used to the TLX V6 going into park automatically whenever it should that I would forget to shift the lever to park, get the warning, and be confused for a second as to what the complaint was. I have NEVER had the TLX v6 emit signals when not in park. (It has yelled at me for leaving the vicinity while it was still running, albeit in park.)

pnoi521

How exactly do you run into this problem? Do you not select anything and attempt to exit the car which is still running? The car automatically shifts to Park if you open the door with your seatbelt unfastened. So do you attempt to exit the car with your seatbelt fastened?

Saintor

By writing "I was going to leave", I meant shutting it down first. What I have in mind is that I was under impression that I pushed that P button and it wasn't the case. We should always double-check the gear info at the dash I guess, but I feel that it was less necessary with a stick.

sbillard

We still don't understand how you managed leave without the car going into park. Did you jump out from the sun roof????

Turn off the engine--car goes to park
Open the door with the seat belt unlatched--car goes to park.
Open the door with the seat belt latched, car stays in gear. Unlatch the seat belt--car goes to park.
Haven't tried getting out the passenger side. Guess that is feasible since there is no shift to impede the process.

If your car is behaving differently, take it in for service. (Maybe this is a Canadian "feature?") Mine is so reliable in this behavior that I do not even look. Just look at the convoluted "car wash" procedure. (I don't use car washes, I like to keep my finish scratch free.)

pnoi521

lol I think people just have a problem with change. This is just like every time Apple changes something on the iPhone. Everyone was crying like it was the end of the world when they changed over to the lightning connectors. a few years later and it not even an issue anymore.

Mr. ShawnJ007

I might be the first to say im split on it... i absolutely loved having a shifter to hold on to while driving in my 2nd gen, there was also something great about shifting with that motion as if i were almost part of the machine even though it was automatic. I think its something that has been drilled in to our minds due to the amount of VTEC bliss we've engaged in over the years with that being a key trigger; pull back, push down and let your pulse thrive! If you've ever driven manual then the stick will mean even more to you than ever. Heck, the first thing i did when i went to visit my old car in storage the other day was grab hold of the stick and the wheel while marveling at how soft and plush the leather felt. Now as for my new TLX, it didn't take long for the convenience of the clearance in the middle to grow on me and for the new 9 & 3 paddle shifting stance to become my new "time to rip it" stance. Ok, now that i think of it the truth is i might not be split, but i'm definitely at least 60/40 in favour of the stick. I wonder if we'll some day see custom hand gestures linked to the transmission, i'd love to pretend i'm whipping the horses that are pulling my chariot every time i shift bahahaha

Saintor

x2.

I don't hate it but I don't see the benefit. And yes it is a source of undue distraction.

I'd prefer the stick ZF-style found in BMW/Audi.

pnoi521

+1 for the BMW joystick

Momyc

x3

reddogTL

Since driving my TLX since October of last year I've gotten somewhat used to the buttons but i dont think its possible to get completely used to all the buttons in that area.

For example: I can put the car into reverse and put on/take off the E-Brake switch without needing to look but sometimes to put into Drive its a bit challenging(especially when doing a quick K-turn). Another issue I have is when i get to the car wash and have to put the car into neutral sometimes without looking I end up hitting the IDS button instead of the N button. Acura needs to figure out a new button layout. Having the shifter buttons in the same proximity and same layout as the Brake hold, Auto engine shutoff, and IDS buttons is not ergonomic because its hard to reach down and feel which is which. The N, IDS, Auto engine shut off, and Brake Hold buttons are all flat so you cannot feet the difference between them. BMW & Mercedes C class has a rocker switch for their own IDS settings. Lexus IS200t has a knob for their version of IDS. Hell even my wife's Mazda CX-5 has a rocker switch for Sport mode!

If they dont figure out a new layout and separate all the other buttons, then yes, bring back the shifter!

sbillard

I'be found that if I have my index finger on the reverse button my thumb naturally falls on the drive button. So K-turns are no big deal. I might have to look to put it in neutral or park, but since I never do these it is not an issue. (Don't need neutral, car puts itself in park whenever needed.) IDS is just below the drive button and has raised dots so is unmistakeable. (But I stay in sport, so not an issue.) Break hold is just below the parking break so if that is easy to find break hold should not be any more difficult. Auto Idle stop is out of the way, but again not much used. I keep it on, but if you don't like it you probably turn it off immediately (and have learned its position.)