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Old 09-09-2014, 02:13 AM
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Boys and girls, I believe there is a 2 door TLX in your near future. IE: Sport Version. I heard this info from the grapevine about four months ago.

Cadillac already has a new 2 door coupe in the engineering/build pipeline built on a modified Global Wide Body Platform, same platform as the current TLX and RLX. Last time I heard the Caddy will be released early spring of 2015.

Time will tell, but this is where I place my bets.

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Old 09-09-2014, 04:29 AM
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I get the feeling that Acura's next move is a smaller RDX... maybe the IDX to go up against the Q1 or 2 and the X1. There is a demand for those small city SUVs or whatever they call them. Perhaps their new design language will be demonstrated with a car like that. Just a thought....
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Originally Posted by 1black_seven
Acura discontinued Type-S. They don't like to associate terms like Type-S and VTEC with their current target demographic.

Looking at Acura's history when they release a new model, the "sporty" is most likely going to be a dealer optional "sport package." With lip kits, brembos, alloy rims, spoilers, maybe a stiffer suspension, some cool trim, and maybe a spiffy trunk badge indicating cool "sporty package."

I'm not getting my hopes up for a Type-S, but I would be excited for a more sportier looking/performing TLX.
My thoughts exactly. The SH-AWD is the new Type-S. RIP Type-S. The name even sounds cheesy.
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Originally Posted by Davinci547Acura
Boys and girls, I believe there is a 2 door TLX in your near future. IE: Sport Version. I heard this info from the grapevine about four months ago.

Cadillac already has a new 2 door coupe in the engineering/build pipeline built on a modified Global Wide Body Platform, same platform as the current TLX and RLX. Last time I heard the Caddy will be released early spring of 2015.

Time will tell, but this is where I place my bets.


you must be in the business of losing bets
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Originally Posted by DEman19901
My thoughts exactly. The SH-AWD is the new Type-S. RIP Type-S. The name even sounds cheesy.
You think Type-S is cheesy.. and not Super Handling All-Wheel Drive..

I'm guessing V-Series, F-Series, Type-R, S/RS, SS, F-Type, M models are cheesy as well..

Let's not forget P-AWS..
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Originally Posted by justnspace


you must be in the business of losing bets
You haven't heard of the rare 3G and 4G TL cpe.. only in limited production.



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^does it come with Super Handling All Wheel Drive?
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^does it come with Super Handling All Wheel Drive?
No, it comes with Conducive All-Wheel Corrective Steering
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No, it comes with Conducive All-Wheel Corrective Komponents

or CAWK for short.
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Only the prototype crossover (NDX) had CAWCS

CAWCS NDX
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Old 09-10-2014, 12:42 AM
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Honda has admitted that their 8 speed DCT cannot handle 290hp (that's why it is not used in V6 version). So it is not possible.


Originally Posted by Timmy18
I think there will be a TLX Type-S on both 4cyl and V6 models and both would get the same treatments inside and out.

2.0L VTEC turbo 290HP 8 speed DCT or 6-speed with SH-AWD only.
Highly tuned (no turbo)V6 to make nearly 330HP with 9 Speed or 6 Speed, SH-AWD only.
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if this ever happened it would most likely be using the j37 from the rlx.
acura did the same thing with the tl-s by taking the slightly higher displacement engine from the RL
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Originally Posted by 1black_seven
Acura discontinued Type-S. They don't like to associate terms like Type-S and VTEC with their current target demographic.
They could evolve "Type-S" into just "S" like the last Type-S badge. From a distance it would simply look like "TLX-S", and would follow the convention other brands have established (S, RS, M, AMG, V, F, etc).



Originally Posted by 1black_seven
Looking at Acura's history when they release a new model, the "sporty" is most likely going to be a dealer optional "sport package." With lip kits, brembos, alloy rims, spoilers, maybe a stiffer suspension, some cool trim, and maybe a spiffy trunk badge indicating cool "sporty package."
Brembos were never dealer-installed options, they were strictly 3G 6MT and Type-S features. But yes, if the "sporty model" only consisted of these parts that would be fairly disappointing. Akin to Lexus considering the IS350 F-Sport as the IS-F replacement or something.

Originally Posted by DEman19901
My thoughts exactly. The SH-AWD is the new Type-S. RIP Type-S. The name even sounds cheesy.
There's already an SH-AWD model, and they've gone on record saying there's no other differentiation between that and the V6 P-AWS model. So no...the SH is not the new Type-S for this generation.

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Old 09-10-2014, 02:56 AM
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Interesting how things have evolved over the generations...



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Sorry but that slap-on kit looks exactly like it sounds. No flow at all.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
CAWCS NDX
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The trend is smaller displacement using hybrid or force induction, multiple gears to improve acceleration and mpgs, and lighter weight to improve the overall fleet mpgs average. I would love for Acura to provide an dealer install bolt on S/C option for every vehicle in the line-up; but, that is never going to happen. The dealer/aftermarket S/C may not effect the fleet mpg average and the drivetrain can handle the extra HP/TQ as-is. I love my turbo RDX; but, I think the use of turbos for Acura is done for a while. The only two viable options for Honda/Acura are:

- crappy hybrid (ILX) and/or sport hybrids (RLX, NSX, TLX???), AND/OR
- VTEC or i-VTEC higher HP engines from existing earth-dream line-up.

I just want some bragging rights on tech, performance, luxury, and/or mpgs to show off to the other luxury brands.
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
I just want some bragging rights on tech, performance, luxury, and/or mpgs to show off to the other luxury brands.
its clearly evident by their products that they are content with mediocrity
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it's not coming out so stop speculating
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Originally Posted by princelybug
An exposed exhaust will have me sold.
Yes--here come the tail pipes! Sort of confirms what I suspected regarding why they hid the exhaust in the base model--so that they can have a "sport" model with visual cues to differentiate it.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
You think Type-S is cheesy.. and not Super Handling All-Wheel Drive..

I'm guessing V-Series, F-Series, Type-R, S/RS, SS, F-Type, M models are cheesy as well..

Let's not forget P-AWS..
I long ago discovered that each letter added to the basic model designation added $X thousand to the price. Case in point when back in 1986 I bought my first (and hopefully last) BMW. The basic 325 at the time was maybe in the $20K neighborhood (I forget exactly). Then the 325e was another thousand or so and finally the 325es was another thousand or so above the "e". There were absolutely NO substantive differences except for relatively minor cosmetic things.

Same things these days when suddenly and "F-Sport" Lexus makes you an instant boy racer. Kind of like the big letter R that I used to see on the rear quarter panels of older Honda's and Acura's.
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RLX doesn't have the 3.7 engine, it has a 3.5.

Originally Posted by paperboy42190
if this ever happened it would most likely be using the j37 from the rlx.
acura did the same thing with the tl-s by taking the slightly higher displacement engine from the RL
Old 09-10-2014, 01:03 PM
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maybe look like this?
Attached Thumbnails TLX Type S is coming-2015-acura-tlx-prototype-exterior4.jpg   TLX Type S is coming-2015acura_tlx_prototyperear.jpg  
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^that's the prototype of the TLX.

our production model doesnt look anything like that.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^that's the prototype of the TLX.

our production model doesnt look anything like that.
I think that was his point?
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^if the production model took away all the cool styling cues of the prototype, it wont be back. Some of ya'll arent too bright...
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Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger
I think that was his point?
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some of ya'll arent the sharpest tool in the shed....
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Originally Posted by Davinci547Acura
Nope not in business of losing bets. This official photo was published by GM several months ago and is not Photoshop mockup. It is built on the same GWBP as TLX/RLX. So your new sport version could very well be a 2D. Learned long time ago never to say never, besides I don't think crow would taste like chicken.
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even if a 2d TLX came out, the driving dynamics isnt sporty with its anemic 4 cylinder or its six cylinder 9 speed auto....


it'll be like the TSX wagon...an obscure vehicle in the line up slot.
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p.s. the RLX is built on the R-Platform....which it shares with OTHER Honda's....

not sure where you see that it shares the same platform as GM's
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Originally Posted by justnspace


you must be in the business of losing bets

Nope not in business of losing bets. This official photo was published by GM several months ago and is not Photoshop mockup. It is built on the same GWBP asTLX/RLX. So your new sport version could very well be a 2D. Learned long time ago never to say never, besides I don't think crow would taste like chicken.[IMG]file:///C:/Users/RB/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]
Attached Thumbnails TLX Type S is coming-2015-cadillac-ats-coupe-05.jpg  

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The ATS uses GM's Alpha Platform....awd and rwd cars.

acura's are fwd and awd.....and are based on Honda's R platform.

you're not making sense....
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Originally Posted by Tonyware
I get the feeling that Acura's next move is a smaller RDX... maybe the IDX to go up against the Q1 or 2 and the X1. There is a demand for those small city SUVs or whatever they call them. Perhaps their new design language will be demonstrated with a car like that. Just a thought....
I'm on board with this. I think we might see it at Los Angeles.

A small SUV with the 1.5 turbo and 8DCT would probably be a pretty darn good vehicle.
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Honda HR-V, its already here fellas.
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1.5 turbo
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IMO,TLX type S should be named as TLS, and type R be TLR. Since currently all Acura models are ended with X, which actually doesn't have any special meaning. So name it as TLS is a good way to suggest it sharing the same platform with TLX but more Sporty (Just like S4 to A4). TLX type S is a little verbose.
I hope the TLS can be equipped with a tune-up 3.5NA, maybe the same as the one in RLX with 310hp (320 or even 330hp is perfect), and TLR with a twin-turbo 3.5L, around 420hp, and both have SH-AWD as standard.
If Acura is more aggressive, they can also try to modify the exterior and make TLS and TLR a four door coupe.

Another reason I think TLS and TLR are better names than TLX-S is the price range concern. A fully loaded TLX SHAWD is around 45k, so a fully loaded TLX type S will be close to 50k. It is much higher than the starting price of TLX (30k). Many customers just don't want their 50k car to have the same name and same look as a 30k car.
Using a different name and changing to a four door coupe might be a good idea to build an model standing above the TLX.

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Originally Posted by seaeyes
IMO,TLX type S should be named as TLS, and type R be TLR. Since currently all Acura models are end with X, which actually doesn't have any special meaning. So name it as TLS is a good way to suggest it sharing the same platform with TLX but more Sporty (Just like S4 to A4). TLX type S is a little verbose.
I hope the TLS can be equipped with a tune-up 3.5NA, maybe the same as the one in RLX with 310hp, and TLR with a twin-turbo 3.5L, around 420hp, and both have SH-AWD as standard.
If Acura is more aggressive, they can also try to modify the exterior and make TLS and TLR a four door coupe.
... may god have mercy on your soul.

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I think u'd better go back to Nissan Forum.
All ur posts here are plain and have no meaningful content.


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