Gone after 5 weeks of ownership
12-24-2014, 05:41 PM
#42
Senior Moderator
Whoa easy guys. No need for attacks, and to take things personal. Where's everyone's Christmas spirit? Car didn't work out for him, so be it. I'm sure the loss on trade was painful enough.
Seems like I got a Wednesday car, no Tranny issues for me, and I don't even need to get mine inspected. The only vibration I experience is with restarts from the stop/start system.
On both of my VCM Acuras, the only way I can tell it's working is by watching the instantaneous fuel mpg meter. It's imperceptible to us both.
Seems like I got a Wednesday car, no Tranny issues for me, and I don't even need to get mine inspected. The only vibration I experience is with restarts from the stop/start system.
On both of my VCM Acuras, the only way I can tell it's working is by watching the instantaneous fuel mpg meter. It's imperceptible to us both.
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12-24-2014, 05:54 PM
#43
Burning Brakes
Color Check
If I use red colored font to represent sarcasm,
what color do I use to represent immaturity?
I don't think I will ever grow up, mentally.
what color do I use to represent immaturity?
I don't think I will ever grow up, mentally.
12-24-2014, 06:02 PM
#44
Racer
No torque converter? What kind of automatic transmission does the V6 have?
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12-24-2014, 11:00 PM
#46
Instructor
Sorry, can't say that I've experienced *this* issue either. No vibrations in the steering wheel and is actually pretty well balanced with enough tactile feedback to give you confidence. 
12-25-2014, 04:09 AM
#47
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You are badly misinformed. The 9ZF does have a torque converter. Honda even managed to add a torque converter to the DCT in the I4.
12-25-2014, 05:01 AM
#48
wow OP took it in the shorts a few times
once when they bought the car
once when they traded it in
and now on the forum
Hope you have plenty of lube handy...
once when they bought the car
once when they traded it in
and now on the forum
Hope you have plenty of lube handy...
12-25-2014, 11:28 AM
#49
Summer is Coming
I'm sure out of the 15,000 or so TLX's they have built so far there will be a few with some production or parts issue that escapes their QA process. It does bug me how quick Acura is to blow off issues (like the rear struts) with a comment like 'that is normal' when in fact it is not normal or out of family with other TLX's. Maybe on this car the flywheel was not balanced, or a wheel bearing was off, or a drive shaft was off. I once had a BMW with a strange vibration. Could not find the cause until I changed the tires. One of the belts in the tires had separated. Who would have guessed? If you take the OPs statements above as fact then his experience is out of family from the rest of ours. The dealership should have investigated and not blown him off. I would have gone to other dealerships or contacted Acura Corporate. I don't have the kind of money it takes to take a quick loss on a $40K car and jump into a $50+K car. Maybe the OP should have done more test drives, but most car buyers are not like Forum members here. They are more impulsive and maybe shop over a weekend and just buy a car.
Anyway, good luck to the OP with the BMW. I enjoyed mine til I had to get rid of it before it turned into a money pit. It was fun to drive though.
I will also say that until Acura can fix their cultural problems (like blowing off owners with statements like 'it is normal' when you could get in a test car and see it is NOT normal), then they will never be able to shed their Honda image and be taken seriously as a luxury brand. Being a luxury brand goes beyond the car, the dealership needs to provide owners with a luxury experience and more often then not they just seem like over priced Honda service.
Oh and Merry Christmas everyone!
Anyway, good luck to the OP with the BMW. I enjoyed mine til I had to get rid of it before it turned into a money pit. It was fun to drive though.
I will also say that until Acura can fix their cultural problems (like blowing off owners with statements like 'it is normal' when you could get in a test car and see it is NOT normal), then they will never be able to shed their Honda image and be taken seriously as a luxury brand. Being a luxury brand goes beyond the car, the dealership needs to provide owners with a luxury experience and more often then not they just seem like over priced Honda service.
Oh and Merry Christmas everyone!
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12-25-2014, 11:54 AM
#50
I will also say that until Acura can fix their cultural problems (like blowing off owners with statements like 'it is normal' when you could get in a test car and see it is NOT normal), then they will never be able to shed their Honda image and be taken seriously as a luxury brand. Being a luxury brand goes beyond the car, the dealership needs to provide owners with a luxury experience and more often then not they just seem like over priced Honda service.
Oh and Merry Christmas everyone!
12-25-2014, 12:02 PM
#51
I'm sure out of the 15,000 or so TLX's they have built so far there will be a few with some production or parts issue that escapes their QA process. It does bug me how quick Acura is to blow off issues (like the rear struts) with a comment like 'that is normal' when in fact it is not normal or out of family with other TLX's. Maybe on this car the flywheel was not balanced, or a wheel bearing was off, or a drive shaft was off. I once had a BMW with a strange vibration. Could not find the cause until I changed the tires. One of the belts in the tires had separated. Who would have guessed? If you take the OPs statements above as fact then his experience is out of family from the rest of ours. The dealership should have investigated and not blown him off. I would have gone to other dealerships or contacted Acura Corporate. I don't have the kind of money it takes to take a quick loss on a $40K car and jump into a $50+K car. Maybe the OP should have done more test drives, but most car buyers are not like Forum members here. They are more impulsive and maybe shop over a weekend and just buy a car.
Anyway, good luck to the OP with the BMW. I enjoyed mine til I had to get rid of it before it turned into a money pit. It was fun to drive though.
I will also say that until Acura can fix their cultural problems (like blowing off owners with statements like 'it is normal' when you could get in a test car and see it is NOT normal), then they will never be able to shed their Honda image and be taken seriously as a luxury brand. Being a luxury brand goes beyond the car, the dealership needs to provide owners with a luxury experience and more often then not they just seem like over priced Honda service.
Oh and Merry Christmas everyone!
Anyway, good luck to the OP with the BMW. I enjoyed mine til I had to get rid of it before it turned into a money pit. It was fun to drive though.
I will also say that until Acura can fix their cultural problems (like blowing off owners with statements like 'it is normal' when you could get in a test car and see it is NOT normal), then they will never be able to shed their Honda image and be taken seriously as a luxury brand. Being a luxury brand goes beyond the car, the dealership needs to provide owners with a luxury experience and more often then not they just seem like over priced Honda service.
Oh and Merry Christmas everyone!
12-25-2014, 12:09 PM
#52
Thanks for the insults,negative comments and innuendo.I did test drive a demo vehicle with the V6 and didn't notice the vibration. I have bought several first year model cars before without any problems.To call someone "stupid" for buying a first year model means there are thousands of buyers, including tlx forum members, who are stupid. 'Finicky", not quite. Like I said, no car should vibrate the way mine did, especially a $40K luxury car. "Full of crap or hypersensitive," nope. Shop foreman noticed the vibration and so did my wife and friends. Acura is aware of the vibration problem and if you research the subject on this forum you will see that it exists. There is a video made by Acura that describes the vibration you may feel from the VCM. Do your research. If the dealer could have fixed it, I'd still have the car. They made it perfectly clear to me that it is the way it is. As far as being a "troll" and not having purchased the car, how suspicious, paranoid and overly loyal can you get. Do you really think I don't have better things to do than fictionalize the purchase and problems of a car. I bought the car at Prime Acura, vin#19UUB2F5XFA008671. It is now for sale at Peabody Acura. Go check the Car Fax. To the knucklehead who is wondering why I didn't post a big hello when I first bought the car and joined the forum, I have better things to do and just take a look at the responses to my post. My post was not intended to offend or hurt anyone's feelings. I understand brand loyalty. I have had 4 Hondas. I made this post because I want to make sure potential buyers are aware of this problem. I wish I was aware of this forum and researched problems with the tlx before I bought it, because I would have passed. "Good luck with maintenance on BMW," thank you but all maintenance is included for 4years/50K miles. Good luck with your tlx and Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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12-25-2014, 08:00 PM
#54
Amazing the vitriol directed at the guy selling his TLX. I joined the forum a few months ago, and have posted several times. Looking for a new car with AWD, and on paper the TLX seemed ideal.
I've tried a dozen cars since Sept '12, trying to find something overall better than my '08 Legacy GT for $40K or less. So far no success.
On September 2, I drove both the I4 and V6.FWD, the AWD not yet being available.
BOTH TLX"s were defective. The 4 suffered a weird loss of throttle or indecision in changing down to 1st, as I was attempting to left turn across traffic back
I've tried a dozen cars since Sept '12, trying to find something overall better than my '08 Legacy GT for $40K or less. So far no success.
On September 2, I drove both the I4 and V6.FWD, the AWD not yet being available.
BOTH TLX"s were defective. The 4 suffered a weird loss of throttle or indecision in changing down to 1st, as I was attempting to left turn across traffic back
12-25-2014, 08:33 PM
#55
Suzuka Master
^ So you test drove 2 and 4 suffered problems? huh?
The car should not downshift to first unless it is stopped.
I test drove about 6 before buying and none had the issues that all these other people claim it has.
vitriol? This is not vitriol.. again, where's the tissue box emote?
The car should not downshift to first unless it is stopped.
I test drove about 6 before buying and none had the issues that all these other people claim it has.
vitriol? This is not vitriol.. again, where's the tissue box emote?
12-25-2014, 08:48 PM
#57
Amazing the vitriol directed at the guy selling his TLX. I joined the forum a few months ago, and have posted several times. Looking for a new car with AWD, and on paper the TLX seemed ideal.
I've tried a dozen cars since Sept '12, trying to find something overall better than my '08 Legacy GT for $40K or less. So far no success.
On September 2, I drove both the I4 and V6 FWD, the AWD not yet being available.
BOTH TLX"s were defective.
The 4 suffered a weird loss of throttle or indecision in changing down to 1st, as I was attempting to left turn across traffic back into the dealership. Truly dangerous.
The V6 which the shaken salesman wanted me to drive next, had serious cyclic vibration on the highway, just what the OP found. Not very impressive
Not counting the crap orange-peel paint, the misaligned driver's door on all 7 vehicles they had there, the ponderous non-sporty handling, the frenetic 4 and its transmission which my LGT would dismiss with one decent prod on the gas, the crap nine-speed ZF on the V6s, I agreed to come back in at the end of Sept to drive the SH-AWD. It was fine except for the transmission, which I despise, and the ponderous handling.
However, as a mechanical engineer, 2 out of 3 bad is a big red flag to me. Not one of the other makes of cars I have test-driven have exhibited any problems. They were just boring drives in the modern idiom.
So, I've read the 4G Problems/Fixes forum complete through the fifth page. What do I discover? A litany of crap torque converters, bad transmission filters, batteries with a 3 or 4 year life, propeller shaft bearings shot as delivered, the Nikasil coated bores of the 3.7 causing massive oil consumption problems, clunks from the right rear suspension - to name the obvious shortcomings that reappear over and over again.
It's the best kept automotive secret out there. Acura TLs from 2009 to 2014 are complete rubbish. Much more so than any German car and obviously worse than my car. The TLX apparently continues in the same vein as the TL :
"They all do that sir." "We could not duplicate the problem." "Acura is aware of the problem but considers the operation normal."
So all the fanbois here can go mental, burst gaskets with outrage, dun me for having the temerity to criticize their sacred cow, call me a troll, blah, blah, blah, and frankly, I don't give a damn.
Do you only expect sweetness and sunshine around here? Do you want to learn? Or do you want to suffer these half-baked, underdeveloped cars in mutual silence? While barking at people who have had a different experience, and who should have had the "good taste" not to air their dirty linen to the fan boys who are desperately sticking their fingers in their ears?
Everyone is ultimately responsible for selecting their own car, but it is obvious to me that buying a TLX is a hit or miss affair that you might get a good one. I had two bad demonstrators, thank goodness, which warned me off. But what if they had been good, then I had bought a bad one? I'd be very annoyed to say the least.
I will say the V6s are nice quiet cars. And that's about it.
Nevertheless, I come back here several times a week to see whether Honda has waved a magic wand and corrected the problems. Obviously not, and reading about the disappointments is highly entertaining but soul-despairing.
Enjoy your rides, and a Happy New Year.
I've tried a dozen cars since Sept '12, trying to find something overall better than my '08 Legacy GT for $40K or less. So far no success.
On September 2, I drove both the I4 and V6 FWD, the AWD not yet being available.
BOTH TLX"s were defective.
The 4 suffered a weird loss of throttle or indecision in changing down to 1st, as I was attempting to left turn across traffic back into the dealership. Truly dangerous.
The V6 which the shaken salesman wanted me to drive next, had serious cyclic vibration on the highway, just what the OP found. Not very impressive
Not counting the crap orange-peel paint, the misaligned driver's door on all 7 vehicles they had there, the ponderous non-sporty handling, the frenetic 4 and its transmission which my LGT would dismiss with one decent prod on the gas, the crap nine-speed ZF on the V6s, I agreed to come back in at the end of Sept to drive the SH-AWD. It was fine except for the transmission, which I despise, and the ponderous handling.
However, as a mechanical engineer, 2 out of 3 bad is a big red flag to me. Not one of the other makes of cars I have test-driven have exhibited any problems. They were just boring drives in the modern idiom.
So, I've read the 4G Problems/Fixes forum complete through the fifth page. What do I discover? A litany of crap torque converters, bad transmission filters, batteries with a 3 or 4 year life, propeller shaft bearings shot as delivered, the Nikasil coated bores of the 3.7 causing massive oil consumption problems, clunks from the right rear suspension - to name the obvious shortcomings that reappear over and over again.
It's the best kept automotive secret out there. Acura TLs from 2009 to 2014 are complete rubbish. Much more so than any German car and obviously worse than my car. The TLX apparently continues in the same vein as the TL :
"They all do that sir." "We could not duplicate the problem." "Acura is aware of the problem but considers the operation normal."
So all the fanbois here can go mental, burst gaskets with outrage, dun me for having the temerity to criticize their sacred cow, call me a troll, blah, blah, blah, and frankly, I don't give a damn.
Do you only expect sweetness and sunshine around here? Do you want to learn? Or do you want to suffer these half-baked, underdeveloped cars in mutual silence? While barking at people who have had a different experience, and who should have had the "good taste" not to air their dirty linen to the fan boys who are desperately sticking their fingers in their ears?
Everyone is ultimately responsible for selecting their own car, but it is obvious to me that buying a TLX is a hit or miss affair that you might get a good one. I had two bad demonstrators, thank goodness, which warned me off. But what if they had been good, then I had bought a bad one? I'd be very annoyed to say the least.
I will say the V6s are nice quiet cars. And that's about it.
Nevertheless, I come back here several times a week to see whether Honda has waved a magic wand and corrected the problems. Obviously not, and reading about the disappointments is highly entertaining but soul-despairing.
Enjoy your rides, and a Happy New Year.
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12-25-2014, 08:52 PM
#58
Suzuka Master
^ I guess we needed to see more flame bait
EDIT: It's not about being a "fanboi" as you like to use the word ., but it's when people post crap like you just did by saying that the car is defective "still" when there are plenty of posts saying it's not.
So, you ONLY focus on the negative reports? 1000 atta-boys wiped out by one Oh-shit!
EDIT: It's not about being a "fanboi" as you like to use the word ., but it's when people post crap like you just did by saying that the car is defective "still" when there are plenty of posts saying it's not.
Nevertheless, I come back here several times a week to see whether Honda has waved a magic wand and corrected the problems. Obviously not, and reading about the disappointments is highly entertaining but soul-despairing.
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12-25-2014, 09:16 PM
#59
It's the best kept automotive secret out there. Acura TLs from 2009 to 2014 are complete rubbish. Much more so than any German car and obviously worse than my car. The TLX apparently continues in the same vein as the TL :
"They all do that sir." "We could not duplicate the problem." "Acura is aware of the problem but considers the operation normal."
"They all do that sir." "We could not duplicate the problem." "Acura is aware of the problem but considers the operation normal."
I wonder how an already much maligned Acura is able to keep such secrets, in the age of the Web. Must be a huge conspiracy theory, but I'm taken aback that Acura never offered me a chance to take part in keeping their secret.
And here I am, in the present, trying to keep secret all the problems that I'm going to have in the future
.For every JD Power Initial Quality survey showing Acura's slip in recent years, there's a Consumer Reports issue that shows that Acura is still on top, reliability-wise. I don't disagree with Acura service being overpriced Honda service, though.
If you're going to be a troll, that's fine, but at least have the dignity and self respect to proudly accept the fact that you're a troll.
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12-25-2014, 10:51 PM
#61
Three Wheelin'
Amazing the vitriol directed at the guy selling his TLX. I joined the forum a few months ago, and have posted several times.
So all the fanbois here can go mental, burst gaskets with outrage, dun me for having the temerity to criticize their sacred cow, call me a troll, blah, blah, blah, and frankly, I don't give a damn.
Enjoy your rides, and a Happy New Year.
So all the fanbois here can go mental, burst gaskets with outrage, dun me for having the temerity to criticize their sacred cow, call me a troll, blah, blah, blah, and frankly, I don't give a damn.
Enjoy your rides, and a Happy New Year.
The root of the issue lies with people who just drop in and start off with flaming posts. It is difficult to take them seriously especially when they are not looking for assistance in solving an issue and have already decided the regulars, "fanboys", are just idiots. If you don't care a damn it is not clear why you have bothered posting.
There is a difference between constructive and destructive criticism. One usually leads to reasonable discussion with a genuine hope for some improvement. The other is just begging to start an argument and alienate any readers, but I guess that is part of the fun you are seeking.
Hope you can find your perfect car somewhere, but I doubt it be here. Happy New Year!
12-26-2014, 03:00 AM
#62
Three Wheelin'
I don't own a TLX but I can kind of relate to the OP. I own a 2012 Odyssey with VCM, which is similar to the TLX's VCM. I test drove it 3 times before buying it and didn't notice any vibrations because around town, and stop and go traffic, VCM hardly engages. But right after I bought it and drove it on the highway at various speeds, from 35-75mph, VCM would engage on and off depending on pedal effort, and boy, I hated the constant vibrations. Can feel it through the drivers seat, steering wheel and floor panel. I took it back to the dealer I bought it from and was told it was normal. Unable to accept that, mind you the Elite version with all the options I got totaled to $47k, I took it to 2 other Honda dealers and again, both said the same thing...."normal" and won't do anything about it. But the minivan was for my wife and she loves it and can't feel a single vibration. If it was my car and daily drive it, it would've been gone a week after I got it because I couldn't stand the vibrations. But since it's my wife and she drives it 99.9% of the time and loves it, it's still in the family.
So yes, I can believe the OP. And oh, I know a few Odyssey forums exist but never registered and never said "hello"!
So yes, I can believe the OP. And oh, I know a few Odyssey forums exist but never registered and never said "hello"!
12-26-2014, 09:01 AM
#63
^^^^ You haven't driven a TLX so your post is worthless. I don't know of a single online or print TLX review that mentions an annoying vibration. If the OPs vibration was that bad then he should have gotten customer service or the regional rep involved. I'm thinking the whole complaint is exaggerated.
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12-26-2014, 09:18 AM
#64
Suzuka Master
^ If I was the OP and had that "issue", then I'd have been wearing out ACR until I got satisfaction. I'd have been on the internet looking for the same issue as well. I certainly wouldn't have came here to say basically "your car sucked so bad that I traded it in on a more expensive car".. but that is just me.
As for VCM vibration? This is my second car with VCM and never had a vibration issue. Sure, sometimes I can feel the change when I think VCM kicks in but it's only momentary. I see absolutely no way VCM could be the culprit. If the car vibrates on 3 cylinders, it should vibrate on 6. But what do I know?
As for VCM vibration? This is my second car with VCM and never had a vibration issue. Sure, sometimes I can feel the change when I think VCM kicks in but it's only momentary. I see absolutely no way VCM could be the culprit. If the car vibrates on 3 cylinders, it should vibrate on 6. But what do I know?
12-26-2014, 11:04 AM
#65
Three Wheelin'
^^^^ You haven't driven a TLX so your post is worthless. I don't know of a single online or print TLX review that mentions an annoying vibration. If the OPs vibration was that bad then he should have gotten customer service or the regional rep involved. I'm thinking the whole complaint is exaggerated.
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12-26-2014, 11:14 AM
#67
You haven't driven a TLX so you have no idea how it compares to an Odyssey. Your post is irrelevant.
12-26-2014, 11:14 AM
#68
She couldn't even see why I needed to get Mazda NA and regional rep involved in our horrendous Mazda5 vibration, and she was daily driving it!!
When you braked, the seat made a creaking noise, like a 40 year old car (I have a 50 year old car, so I know). I told her when it started making the noise, she goes what noise?
Dealer installed a whole new seat mechanism, and the issue went away.
She can do precise surgery on little premature kids weighing 500grams, but is oblivious to anything related to cars.
My benefit is, like most of my friends wives who all drive S class or BMW 7 series, my wife is fine in a $20K Mazda5
More $$ for me
12-26-2014, 11:15 AM
#69
12-26-2014, 11:33 AM
#70
Three Wheelin'
My wife and your wife may be related.
She couldn't even see why I needed to get Mazda NA and regional rep involved in our horrendous Mazda5 vibration, and she was daily driving it!!
When you braked, the seat made a creaking noise, like a 40 year old car (I have a 50 year old car, so I know). I told her when it started making the noise, she goes what noise?
Dealer installed a whole new seat mechanism, and the issue went away.
She can do precise surgery on little premature kids weighing 500grams, but is oblivious to anything related to cars.
My benefit is, like most of my friends wives who all drive S class or BMW 7 series, my wife is fine in a $20K Mazda5
More $$ for me
She couldn't even see why I needed to get Mazda NA and regional rep involved in our horrendous Mazda5 vibration, and she was daily driving it!!
When you braked, the seat made a creaking noise, like a 40 year old car (I have a 50 year old car, so I know). I told her when it started making the noise, she goes what noise?
Dealer installed a whole new seat mechanism, and the issue went away.
She can do precise surgery on little premature kids weighing 500grams, but is oblivious to anything related to cars.
My benefit is, like most of my friends wives who all drive S class or BMW 7 series, my wife is fine in a $20K Mazda5
More $$ for me
12-26-2014, 11:36 AM
#71
Only downside is, I have to be vigilante about the oil changes and checking coolant etc, cuz she will not look at the warning lights....
12-26-2014, 11:44 AM
#72
"I can understand that reading comprehension on the web may be hard sometimes. You're excused though."
And I understand that forums are full of clueless trolls. Maybe your wife can toughen you up so you'll be less sensitive.
And I understand that forums are full of clueless trolls. Maybe your wife can toughen you up so you'll be less sensitive.
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12-26-2014, 11:52 AM
#73
For what it's worth, I have the exact same car the OP had (TLX V6 Tech), and just returned from a 300 mile, mostly highway trip.
I drove the car at various cruising speeds between 40mph and 80 mph, and experimented in all IDS modes.
I did not detect any vibration whatsoever in the steering wheel, seat, or car. In fact, this trip created a new favorite feature for me: the LKAS.
In the past, it was more like a fun toy to watch the car steer itself on the gentle highway curves- or just to use it as a warning device if I drifted. But this long trip really showed me the true benefit... the car really did most of the steering on "curvey highways", and GREATLY reduced driver fatigue for me having to steer. I just had to barely hold onto the wheel to prevent the "Steering Required" message from occuring, and it was amazing to me how much the car "helped me" on boring stretches of highway.
So, if anything, the TLX (with using LKAS) is the smoothest, most fatigue-free car I have ever driven for long stretches!
I drove the car at various cruising speeds between 40mph and 80 mph, and experimented in all IDS modes.
I did not detect any vibration whatsoever in the steering wheel, seat, or car. In fact, this trip created a new favorite feature for me: the LKAS.
In the past, it was more like a fun toy to watch the car steer itself on the gentle highway curves- or just to use it as a warning device if I drifted. But this long trip really showed me the true benefit... the car really did most of the steering on "curvey highways", and GREATLY reduced driver fatigue for me having to steer. I just had to barely hold onto the wheel to prevent the "Steering Required" message from occuring, and it was amazing to me how much the car "helped me" on boring stretches of highway.
So, if anything, the TLX (with using LKAS) is the smoothest, most fatigue-free car I have ever driven for long stretches!
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12-26-2014, 12:04 PM
#74
Originally Posted by smoooov;15280787[I
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And I understand that forums are full of clueless trolls. Maybe your wife can toughen you up so you'll be less sensitive.
And I understand that forums are full of clueless trolls. Maybe your wife can toughen you up so you'll be less sensitive.
12-26-2014, 01:02 PM
#75
One of my neighbors, 2 Lexus in 4 months going Ti..-up; the misery and money loss he went through is beyond. Purchased a TLX and is as happy as a lark. Nobody posts anything like this, I suppose, if he did he would be a fan-boy!
12-26-2014, 01:09 PM
#76
Suzuka Master
If calling out BS when we see it (or even suspect it) us fan-boys, so be it.
zoom ..zoom
12-26-2014, 01:48 PM
#77
Pro
Addressing the "complete rubbish" claim for the 2009-2012 TL from another poster, we have had our 2012 for 3 years now and it is one of the most solid trouble-free cars my wife and I have owned (12 years of essentially trouble free ownership from our 2000 TL is also pretty impressive). The only problem encountered was the battery that the dealer claimed needed replacing at one of the services in the third year.
12-26-2014, 06:11 PM
#78
Thanks for the insults,negative comments and innuendo.I did test drive a demo vehicle with the V6 and didn't notice the vibration. I have bought several first year model cars before without any problems.To call someone "stupid" for buying a first year model means there are thousands of buyers, including tlx forum members, who are stupid. 'Finicky", not quite. Like I said, no car should vibrate the way mine did, especially a $40K luxury car. "Full of crap or hypersensitive," nope. Shop foreman noticed the vibration and so did my wife and friends. Acura is aware of the vibration problem and if you research the subject on this forum you will see that it exists. There is a video made by Acura that describes the vibration you may feel from the VCM. Do your research. If the dealer could have fixed it, I'd still have the car. They made it perfectly clear to me that it is the way it is. As far as being a "troll" and not having purchased the car, how suspicious, paranoid and overly loyal can you get. Do you really think I don't have better things to do than fictionalize the purchase and problems of a car. I bought the car at Prime Acura, vin#19UUB2F5XFA008671. It is now for sale at Peabody Acura. Go check the Car Fax. To the knucklehead who is wondering why I didn't post a big hello when I first bought the car and joined the forum, I have better things to do and just take a look at the responses to my post. My post was not intended to offend or hurt anyone's feelings. I understand brand loyalty. I have had 4 Hondas. I made this post because I want to make sure potential buyers are aware of this problem. I wish I was aware of this forum and researched problems with the tlx before I bought it, because I would have passed. "Good luck with maintenance on BMW," thank you but all maintenance is included for 4years/50K miles. Good luck with your tlx and Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Good luck to you. you'll need it.
Odd that you cross-shopped a 5 series after the TLX - they aren't usually considered together.
12-26-2014, 07:40 PM
#79
Sobrut911 -
My point was that in roughly 18 months you will be out of warranty and your free maintenance. From THAT point on the maintenance costs and out of warranty repairs are likely to be significant. It's a fairly well known fact German marques are not are reliable as the Japanese. So if you plan on keeping yours for a period of time, your out of pocket costs as well as some time with your dealer are going to be higher. You could trade in on a regular basis to stay within warranty but you do have tags, taxes and title each time.
With all this being said, it's you car(s) and your money. You can do as you see fit, but five weeks isn't really a long time to work out an issue. Hopefully you didn't take too much of a hit on your trade.
And if you were trying to resolve the vibration with Prime Acura, you were sunk before you started. They are truly jamokes there and are clueless. It starts with the sales staff and continues on to the service dept. I've tried to do business with them on multiple occasions and have given up. I only use Acura of Boston. They are more than twice the distance from me but they know what they are doing and treat me properly.
Peace!
My point was that in roughly 18 months you will be out of warranty and your free maintenance. From THAT point on the maintenance costs and out of warranty repairs are likely to be significant. It's a fairly well known fact German marques are not are reliable as the Japanese. So if you plan on keeping yours for a period of time, your out of pocket costs as well as some time with your dealer are going to be higher. You could trade in on a regular basis to stay within warranty but you do have tags, taxes and title each time.
With all this being said, it's you car(s) and your money. You can do as you see fit, but five weeks isn't really a long time to work out an issue. Hopefully you didn't take too much of a hit on your trade.
And if you were trying to resolve the vibration with Prime Acura, you were sunk before you started. They are truly jamokes there and are clueless. It starts with the sales staff and continues on to the service dept. I've tried to do business with them on multiple occasions and have given up. I only use Acura of Boston. They are more than twice the distance from me but they know what they are doing and treat me properly.
Peace!
Also, you can always get extended warranty. Which you should get for performance luxury vehicles.
I got my 3IS for barely 2 months before I traded it. Dealership said the "radiator smell" inside the cabin was normal.
Last edited by vbx; 12-26-2014 at 07:48 PM.
12-26-2014, 07:59 PM
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What's going on here lately.
Another thread crapped on beyond recovery.
Not the usual players in this thread, but consider this your only warning.
Another thread crapped on beyond recovery.
Not the usual players in this thread, but consider this your only warning.
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