Crunch time, GS350 AWD or TLX AWD ?
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Jmark (10-17-2014)
#83
It's funny because I've not yet recieved my new GS350 and I'm already missing my 3G TL! It's been a superb vehicle in every respect!
If the TLX had better seats and a more refined tranny I likely would have went with the TLX.
I'm hoping it's going to be worth the extra $8k paid, as I could have easily kept the TL for another year to see what happens with the TLX.
I belive Acura is back in the game with the TLX and I see good things with Acura going forward.
#84
The 3G TL is definitely a nice car all around. i still enjoy it every moment even though it's a 10 years old car. I hope Acura can improve the build material, tranny and the front beak of the TLX and it will be a big hit no doubt.
I am sure you will enjoy the GS350 and the luxury of Lexus. Keep us updated and post pictures when you get a chance. Congrat again
I am sure you will enjoy the GS350 and the luxury of Lexus. Keep us updated and post pictures when you get a chance. Congrat again
#85
The 3G TL is definitely a nice car all around. i still enjoy it every moment even though it's a 10 years old car. I hope Acura can improve the build material, tranny and the front beak of the TLX and it will be a big hit no doubt.
I am sure you will enjoy the GS350 and the luxury of Lexus. Keep us updated and post pictures when you get a chance. Congrat again
I am sure you will enjoy the GS350 and the luxury of Lexus. Keep us updated and post pictures when you get a chance. Congrat again
Pick it up tomorrow. Im having a heck of a time even thinking about selling my TL as its such an awesome vehicle. Plus I'm finding out some things about the Lexus that's causing me to feel unsettled. For one, it appears they may have neutered the ML Stereo system such that is doesn't even play lossless audio Codecs! Never mind the fact my Eagles 5.1 DTS disk wouldn't play in the system, but the salesman assured me it was a faulty disk which I don't think is true.
I'll be sure to update this thread once I've had a chance to play with the car.
Wish me luck guys as I really love my 3G TL and liked the TLX. So this Luxury vs near luxury car better be worth it!! Or else LOL
#86
Congrats and I for one will be closely monitoring your love/hate relationship with Lexus as I am embark on the same journey next spring. I am still struggling to part with my dealer and given that I like the ILX (2.4) which will get its MMC next spring...I MAY consider getting that instead of the Lexus but right now, the needle is tipping on the L side, but not by much
#87
Sorry to hear about your disappointment with the ML system - hopefully that is the only thing you're disappointed with. I'm not an audiophile by any means, so I don't have the ML system (although I probably would have gotten it if I were ordering the car instead of buying one off the lot).
#88
Well the car finally arrived at the dealership!
Pick it up tomorrow. Im having a heck of a time even thinking about selling my TL as its such an awesome vehicle. Plus I'm finding out some things about the Lexus that's causing me to feel unsettled. For one, it appears they may have neutered the ML Stereo system such that is doesn't even play lossless audio Codecs! Never mind the fact my Eagles 5.1 DTS disk wouldn't play in the system, but the salesman assured me it was a faulty disk which I don't think is true.
I'll be sure to update this thread once I've had a chance to play with the car.
Wish me luck guys as I really love my 3G TL and liked the TLX. So this Luxury vs near luxury car better be worth it!! Or else LOL
Pick it up tomorrow. Im having a heck of a time even thinking about selling my TL as its such an awesome vehicle. Plus I'm finding out some things about the Lexus that's causing me to feel unsettled. For one, it appears they may have neutered the ML Stereo system such that is doesn't even play lossless audio Codecs! Never mind the fact my Eagles 5.1 DTS disk wouldn't play in the system, but the salesman assured me it was a faulty disk which I don't think is true.
I'll be sure to update this thread once I've had a chance to play with the car.
Wish me luck guys as I really love my 3G TL and liked the TLX. So this Luxury vs near luxury car better be worth it!! Or else LOL
I added that little box to my head unit that allowed me to play DVDs while driving and access the MID in drive.
#89
I'll have to give the ML system a good test with various formats before I make judgement.
From what I've gleaned so far they took a bunch of codecs out of the sytstem in the '14 model, and if true it would only be to save $ on buying Codecs.
But I can't seem to find any definitive info. about the unit? And different countries seem to get different equipment.
Stew what little box are you referring to? Sounds cool!
I'm still excited about picking up the car today!
I'm probably being overly concerned about everything, because this is the first time I've stroked a cheque for that kind of money to buy a car cash.
When I see the size of hole that cheque left in my hard earned savings account, it seems to makes it REAL!
It feels different than a Lease Obligation or payments LOL Tempers the excitment level and you want to make sure every penny being spent gets you something of value. I knew going in buying a new vehicle is waste of $$ due to instant depreciation, but it's different this time Especially when I look at my perfectly good, low milage TL....
From what I've gleaned so far they took a bunch of codecs out of the sytstem in the '14 model, and if true it would only be to save $ on buying Codecs.
But I can't seem to find any definitive info. about the unit? And different countries seem to get different equipment.
Stew what little box are you referring to? Sounds cool!
I'm still excited about picking up the car today!
I'm probably being overly concerned about everything, because this is the first time I've stroked a cheque for that kind of money to buy a car cash.
When I see the size of hole that cheque left in my hard earned savings account, it seems to makes it REAL!
It feels different than a Lease Obligation or payments LOL Tempers the excitment level and you want to make sure every penny being spent gets you something of value. I knew going in buying a new vehicle is waste of $$ due to instant depreciation, but it's different this time Especially when I look at my perfectly good, low milage TL....
#90
Jmark...what you could do is divide the total cost of the vehicle and divide it by 60 and every month, replace that 1/60th of the payment back in your saving account. This way, it feels like you borrowed money from yourself at 0 percent interest YOu need to be disciplined and I would suggest an auto transfer so that the monthly transfer occurs automatically That way, in 5 years from now, the car will still be yours and your savings will have all been replenished.
#91
I'll have to give the ML system a good test with various formats before I make judgement.
From what I've gleaned so far they took a bunch of codecs out of the sytstem in the '14 model, and if true it would only be to save $ on buying Codecs.
But I can't seem to find any definitive info. about the unit? And different countries seem to get different equipment.
Stew what little box are you referring to? Sounds cool!
I'm still excited about picking up the car today!
I'm probably being overly concerned about everything, because this is the first time I've stroked a cheque for that kind of money to buy a car cash.
When I see the size of hole that cheque left in my hard earned savings account, it seems to makes it REAL!
It feels different than a Lease Obligation or payments LOL Tempers the excitment level and you want to make sure every penny being spent gets you something of value. I knew going in buying a new vehicle is waste of $$ due to instant depreciation, but it's different this time Especially when I look at my perfectly good, low milage TL....
From what I've gleaned so far they took a bunch of codecs out of the sytstem in the '14 model, and if true it would only be to save $ on buying Codecs.
But I can't seem to find any definitive info. about the unit? And different countries seem to get different equipment.
Stew what little box are you referring to? Sounds cool!
I'm still excited about picking up the car today!
I'm probably being overly concerned about everything, because this is the first time I've stroked a cheque for that kind of money to buy a car cash.
When I see the size of hole that cheque left in my hard earned savings account, it seems to makes it REAL!
It feels different than a Lease Obligation or payments LOL Tempers the excitment level and you want to make sure every penny being spent gets you something of value. I knew going in buying a new vehicle is waste of $$ due to instant depreciation, but it's different this time Especially when I look at my perfectly good, low milage TL....
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Jmark (10-29-2014)
#92
Well the car finally arrived at the dealership!
Pick it up tomorrow. Im having a heck of a time even thinking about selling my TL as its such an awesome vehicle. Plus I'm finding out some things about the Lexus that's causing me to feel unsettled. For one, it appears they may have neutered the ML Stereo system such that is doesn't even play lossless audio Codecs! Never mind the fact my Eagles 5.1 DTS disk wouldn't play in the system, but the salesman assured me it was a faulty disk which I don't think is true.
I'll be sure to update this thread once I've had a chance to play with the car.
Wish me luck guys as I really love my 3G TL and liked the TLX. So this Luxury vs near luxury car better be worth it!! Or else LOL
Pick it up tomorrow. Im having a heck of a time even thinking about selling my TL as its such an awesome vehicle. Plus I'm finding out some things about the Lexus that's causing me to feel unsettled. For one, it appears they may have neutered the ML Stereo system such that is doesn't even play lossless audio Codecs! Never mind the fact my Eagles 5.1 DTS disk wouldn't play in the system, but the salesman assured me it was a faulty disk which I don't think is true.
I'll be sure to update this thread once I've had a chance to play with the car.
Wish me luck guys as I really love my 3G TL and liked the TLX. So this Luxury vs near luxury car better be worth it!! Or else LOL
Good Luck..
#93
An update now that I've put a few miles on the GS and did some research.
The ML Stereo was in fact Neutered! It only plays Mp3's and WMA Codecs
It does play DVD's which is cool, but no DVD-A which in all fairness is dead anyway.
You can watch the DVD on the nice big screen and when you put the car in drive the video is overlayed with the Navi but the music still plays.
No discrete DTS, just PCM stream which is then multiplexed. Overall the sound is still very good. Put the Acura sound test DVD i got with my TL and it sounded quite good throughout all the tests.
The seats are 16 way adjustable on both sides and are amazingly comfortable. My wife is now excited about going on a trip!
The engine/tranny management is very smooth and no matter which driving mode I put it in, responds as expected. No hesitations or farts, it just gets up and goes. It feels faster and smoother than the TLX and I hate to say it, but handles much better than the TLX. It came with 18" ( love the wheels) Michelin MXM4 P235/45R18 tires.
On that big dip in the curve Ive talked about before the GS soaks it up without as much as a wiggle! Is it because the GX is biased towards RW drive while the TLX is opposite?
Overall impression is the GS was worth the extra $8k spent on it vs the TLX.
The ML Stereo was in fact Neutered! It only plays Mp3's and WMA Codecs
It does play DVD's which is cool, but no DVD-A which in all fairness is dead anyway.
You can watch the DVD on the nice big screen and when you put the car in drive the video is overlayed with the Navi but the music still plays.
No discrete DTS, just PCM stream which is then multiplexed. Overall the sound is still very good. Put the Acura sound test DVD i got with my TL and it sounded quite good throughout all the tests.
The seats are 16 way adjustable on both sides and are amazingly comfortable. My wife is now excited about going on a trip!
The engine/tranny management is very smooth and no matter which driving mode I put it in, responds as expected. No hesitations or farts, it just gets up and goes. It feels faster and smoother than the TLX and I hate to say it, but handles much better than the TLX. It came with 18" ( love the wheels) Michelin MXM4 P235/45R18 tires.
On that big dip in the curve Ive talked about before the GS soaks it up without as much as a wiggle! Is it because the GX is biased towards RW drive while the TLX is opposite?
Overall impression is the GS was worth the extra $8k spent on it vs the TLX.
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LiQiCE (10-31-2014)
#94
Right - but there is a delay at least on my MDX, so if I grab the door handle and pull right away, on the MDX it isn't unlocked yet. It has beeped to indicate that it unlocked, but it isn't open at the time I pull the door handle. I have to pull a second time while the GS always is open when I pull the handle.
It is like the response time to unlock the doors on the GS is faster than the MDX. If I hesitate an extra 1/2 second before pulling the door on the MDX then it is open, but if I do the same thing I do with the GS and just grab the handle and open it, it doesn't work.
I'd be interested to see if any TLX owners have experienced something similar.
It is like the response time to unlock the doors on the GS is faster than the MDX. If I hesitate an extra 1/2 second before pulling the door on the MDX then it is open, but if I do the same thing I do with the GS and just grab the handle and open it, it doesn't work.
I'd be interested to see if any TLX owners have experienced something similar.
#95
And - I was not saying that the delay means the GS is the car to buy because of it, I was simply mentioning something I noticed between my MDX and GS that I thought was interesting and I was curious if it happened to people who owned the TLX as well.
BTW- The difference for me was not $18k, it was more like $7k at the time (when compared with the TLX SH-AWD Advance) - less if you were to add the bodykit to the TLX to compare with my GS F-Sport's exterior changes.
But if you read my original posts - I even said the TLX is a better value than the GS. There are things that imho make the GS better than the TLX - I noted a lot of them in my posts. Whether they're worth more is something that is up to you when you buy the car and everyone needs to make that decision for themselves.
In the end - we're talking Luxury vehicles, if you want the best value you should be looking at Honda/Toyota not Acura/Lexus.
#96
An update now that I've put a few miles on the GS and did some research.
The ML Stereo was in fact Neutered! It only plays Mp3's and WMA Codecs
It does play DVD's which is cool, but no DVD-A which in all fairness is dead anyway.
You can watch the DVD on the nice big screen and when you put the car in drive the video is overlayed with the Navi but the music still plays.
No discrete DTS, just PCM stream which is then multiplexed. Overall the sound is still very good. Put the Acura sound test DVD i got with my TL and it sounded quite good throughout all the tests.
The seats are 16 way adjustable on both sides and are amazingly comfortable. My wife is now excited about going on a trip!
The engine/tranny management is very smooth and no matter which driving mode I put it in, responds as expected. No hesitations or farts, it just gets up and goes. It feels faster and smoother than the TLX and I hate to say it, but handles much better than the TLX. It came with 18" ( love the wheels) Michelin MXM4 P235/45R18 tires.
On that big dip in the curve Ive talked about before the GS soaks it up without as much as a wiggle! Is it because the GX is biased towards RW drive while the TLX is opposite?
Overall impression is the GS was worth the extra $8k spent on it vs the TLX.
The ML Stereo was in fact Neutered! It only plays Mp3's and WMA Codecs
It does play DVD's which is cool, but no DVD-A which in all fairness is dead anyway.
You can watch the DVD on the nice big screen and when you put the car in drive the video is overlayed with the Navi but the music still plays.
No discrete DTS, just PCM stream which is then multiplexed. Overall the sound is still very good. Put the Acura sound test DVD i got with my TL and it sounded quite good throughout all the tests.
The seats are 16 way adjustable on both sides and are amazingly comfortable. My wife is now excited about going on a trip!
The engine/tranny management is very smooth and no matter which driving mode I put it in, responds as expected. No hesitations or farts, it just gets up and goes. It feels faster and smoother than the TLX and I hate to say it, but handles much better than the TLX. It came with 18" ( love the wheels) Michelin MXM4 P235/45R18 tires.
On that big dip in the curve Ive talked about before the GS soaks it up without as much as a wiggle! Is it because the GX is biased towards RW drive while the TLX is opposite?
Overall impression is the GS was worth the extra $8k spent on it vs the TLX.
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Jmark (11-01-2014)
#97
2015 TLX SH-AWD vs 2013 GS-350 AWD
Drove a new TLX yesterday and a 2013 GS-350 base model. with my 16 yr old son. Absolutely no comparison! As a owner of a G2 RL with A-SPEC suspension I was extremely disappointed with the TLX, the interior materials were subpar and the driving experience was totally unexciting. The GS on the other hand was pure workmanship quality, handling was v-good and the engine strong. Do not believe Acura has anything to compete with the GS model at this time; which was very disappointing as I love my RL, it is just long in the tooth. Bet the F Sport will add more to the base experience.
#98
I don't understand why people keep comparing the TLX to a 18K more expensive GS. That's nonsense. The GS looks like an old man car, with a dated design right from the start. No way I would have chosen it over my Acura.
#99
Too bad the "old man car" is the TLX (you got them reversed), especially the way it drives....
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#104
...if you really read my post you will realize I do not care about Nissan (or any other brands)...at all...
The real troll is someone accusing the GS 350 (especially the F-Sport) of being "an old man car" because clearly he has no idea of what he's talking about...
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