CR - "Should I buy an Acura TLX or just buy a loaded Honda Accord?"
02-05-2015, 12:00 PM
#81
Moderator
I currently own a 2014 Accord EX-L Sedan (I4) and a 2015 TLX Tech (I4)
Let's talk about the main differences.
When it comes to overall handling and ride quality, the TLX beats the Accord anyday. TLX is more refined and smoother on bumps. The cabin is very quiet compared to the Accord, which was a surprise to me since the Accord is also very quiet.
The ELS sound system is much better than the upgraded EX-L sound system. I can play the same song in both cars and there is a huge difference. Both the cars lack in the bass department but TLX delivers the music with immense details.
As far as the headlights go- I also own a 2006 Honda S2000 with stock projectors and Osram CBI 5000k bulbs. The bulbs on the S2000 are very bright and white compared to the Accord. The Accord's halogen do travel very far, but the TLX kills it with the LED setup. Much crisper, brighter, and whiter. The beam is wider in the S2000 compared to both the TLX and the Accord but that is because the way the headlights are positioned in the S2000. But yeah, the TLX has a much better light output than the Accord.
Brakes- Accord has much better brakes than the TLX. Accord seems to stop quicker and the pedal feels more solid compared to the TLX.
Acceleration- TLX is a lot quicker and also feels amazing thanks to the DCT. Accord CVT feels bland, but it is still powerful.
Interior- Accord is bigger and wider, so more room.
Bells and whistles- TLX has the tilt down side mirror when backing up. Blind spot indicator (best feature yet). Touch screen interface (annoying at times compared to the Accord). Lane Keep Assist really helps and works wonderful to my surprise.
The only thing I don't like about the TLX compared to the Accord are the wheels. I think the wheels on the Accord look a lot better than the ones on the TLX.
Bottom line- I prefer driving the Acura more than I like driving the Accord, because the TLX feels much better =)
Let's talk about the main differences.
When it comes to overall handling and ride quality, the TLX beats the Accord anyday. TLX is more refined and smoother on bumps. The cabin is very quiet compared to the Accord, which was a surprise to me since the Accord is also very quiet.
The ELS sound system is much better than the upgraded EX-L sound system. I can play the same song in both cars and there is a huge difference. Both the cars lack in the bass department but TLX delivers the music with immense details.
As far as the headlights go- I also own a 2006 Honda S2000 with stock projectors and Osram CBI 5000k bulbs. The bulbs on the S2000 are very bright and white compared to the Accord. The Accord's halogen do travel very far, but the TLX kills it with the LED setup. Much crisper, brighter, and whiter. The beam is wider in the S2000 compared to both the TLX and the Accord but that is because the way the headlights are positioned in the S2000. But yeah, the TLX has a much better light output than the Accord.
Brakes- Accord has much better brakes than the TLX. Accord seems to stop quicker and the pedal feels more solid compared to the TLX.
Acceleration- TLX is a lot quicker and also feels amazing thanks to the DCT. Accord CVT feels bland, but it is still powerful.
Interior- Accord is bigger and wider, so more room.
Bells and whistles- TLX has the tilt down side mirror when backing up. Blind spot indicator (best feature yet). Touch screen interface (annoying at times compared to the Accord). Lane Keep Assist really helps and works wonderful to my surprise.
The only thing I don't like about the TLX compared to the Accord are the wheels. I think the wheels on the Accord look a lot better than the ones on the TLX.
Bottom line- I prefer driving the Acura more than I like driving the Accord, because the TLX feels much better =)
02-05-2015, 05:12 PM
#82
Three Wheelin'
If you have to turn to look behind your shoulder then you side mirrors may not be optimally positioned. Left side should see straight back when you lean toward the left. Right should see straight back when you lean toward the left. You should not be able to see the sides of your car in either mirror. With this adjustment there should be no blind spot. The BSI is a bonus.
02-05-2015, 08:01 PM
#83
Suzuka Master
I tried to adjust my mirrors that way but I could not stand it. having to lean over to see down the side of the car sucks for me. I have never had a problem looking over my shoulder.. old habit
02-05-2015, 08:06 PM
#84
02-05-2015, 08:10 PM
#85
Suzuka Master
I think having to lean over while backing up my driveway was what did it for me. I have a narrow driveway that wraps around my house and to the back. I like being able to see both sides of the car while backing up (using mirrors, not the camera)
02-05-2015, 08:24 PM
#86
If you have to turn to look behind your shoulder then you side mirrors may not be optimally positioned. Left side should see straight back when you lean toward the left. Right should see straight back when you lean toward the left. You should not be able to see the sides of your car in either mirror. With this adjustment there should be no blind spot. The BSI is a bonus.
02-05-2015, 10:09 PM
#88
Three Wheelin'
You may have misunderstood my note... oops I did not explain it properly. You only lean to the left and right when making the adjustment. After that sit normally and no need to look over your shoulder. How many people have you seen looking over their shoulder and not being able to keep the car in a straight line or having to brake suddenly because traffic in front was slowing unexpectedly. You are likely not one of these but new drivers are not taught properly.
02-06-2015, 05:03 AM
#89
Suzuka Master
You may have misunderstood my note... oops I did not explain it properly. You only lean to the left and right when making the adjustment. After that sit normally and no need to look over your shoulder. How many people have you seen looking over their shoulder and not being able to keep the car in a straight line or having to brake suddenly because traffic in front was slowing unexpectedly. You are likely not one of these but new drivers are not taught properly.
I recall getting dinged on my first driving text for not looking over shoulder when changing lanes.. old habits
02-06-2015, 06:17 AM
#90
Instructor
The problem with not looking over your shoulder occurs on multi-lane highways. Many cities have 3, 4, 5 or more lanes. I've noticed for years that even though I use the approach mentioned above for adjusting the mirrors to avoid the blind spot the mirror will miss a car two lanes over on my left that decides to make a lane change into my adjacent lane. So even though there was no vehicle showing in my left mirror, by the time I execute the lane change that car also made a lane change and we are on a collision course. Looking quickly over the left shoulder prior to making the lane change will ensure that you know what is happening.
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02-06-2015, 07:22 AM
#91
Moderator
I'd love to have cameras on both side mirrors!
02-06-2015, 12:14 PM
#92
The problem with not looking over your shoulder occurs on multi-lane highways. Many cities have 3, 4, 5 or more lanes. I've noticed for years that even though I use the approach mentioned above for adjusting the mirrors to avoid the blind spot the mirror will miss a car two lanes over on my left that decides to make a lane change into my adjacent lane. So even though there was no vehicle showing in my left mirror, by the time I execute the lane change that car also made a lane change and we are on a collision course. Looking quickly over the left shoulder prior to making the lane change will ensure that you know what is happening.
02-06-2015, 01:10 PM
#93
Honda's lane watch camera is antiquated and makers like Volvo deemed it useless during poor visibility conditions switching over to radar based systems like Acura's BLIS. The camera lane watch system in my mind simply saves you from turning your head less often but that's just it and I don't consider it a true safety feature.
02-06-2015, 01:38 PM
#94
Moderator
Honda's lane watch camera is antiquated and makers like Volvo deemed it useless during poor visibility conditions switching over to radar based systems like Acura's BLIS. The camera lane watch system in my mind simply saves you from turning your head less often but that's just it and I don't consider it a true safety feature.
Maybe I'm an anomaly here - but not having to turn your head - or even glance over to the mirror and decipher what you see there - *is* the point of the camera. A quick glance from the road down to the iMid then back up to the road seems much safer. And - the camera does more than just show your blind spot - you can see exactly what's happening in the right lane.
I'm not trying to convince anyone as to the merits of the camera vs the Acura BSI implementation - just sharing my experience
02-07-2015, 11:39 AM
#95
While I don't own a TLX, the topic interested me.
I cross-shopped a loaded Accord (V6 Touring) with my 4G TL SH-AWD. The offer I walked away from at Honda was $31k OTD done and done. That was a seriously solid offer.
The comparably equipped TLX to that has an MSRP of $40k (V6 P-AWS w/ Tech)
What does the TLX really have over it?
The Touring model has:
- LED Headlights
- LED Brakelights
- Power Driver + Passenger seats
- Navigation
- LaneWatch
- Push button start
- Rear view camera
- Adaptive Cruise Control
etc
I think the Accord would win in a head to head between the two. Used, I opted for the SH-AWD TL because I wanted the AWD system. If you're comparing FWD to FWD though the Accord seems way more attractive.
I cross-shopped a loaded Accord (V6 Touring) with my 4G TL SH-AWD. The offer I walked away from at Honda was $31k OTD done and done. That was a seriously solid offer.
The comparably equipped TLX to that has an MSRP of $40k (V6 P-AWS w/ Tech)
What does the TLX really have over it?
The Touring model has:
- LED Headlights
- LED Brakelights
- Power Driver + Passenger seats
- Navigation
- LaneWatch
- Push button start
- Rear view camera
- Adaptive Cruise Control
etc
I think the Accord would win in a head to head between the two. Used, I opted for the SH-AWD TL because I wanted the AWD system. If you're comparing FWD to FWD though the Accord seems way more attractive.
02-07-2015, 05:27 PM
#96
Racer
I currently own a 2014 Accord EX-L Sedan (I4) and a 2015 TLX Tech (I4)
Let's talk about the main differences.
When it comes to overall handling and ride quality, the TLX beats the Accord anyday. TLX is more refined and smoother on bumps. The cabin is very quiet compared to the Accord, which was a surprise to me since the Accord is also very quiet.
The ELS sound system is much better than the upgraded EX-L sound system. I can play the same song in both cars and there is a huge difference. Both the cars lack in the bass department but TLX delivers the music with immense details.
As far as the headlights go- I also own a 2006 Honda S2000 with stock projectors and Osram CBI 5000k bulbs. The bulbs on the S2000 are very bright and white compared to the Accord. The Accord's halogen do travel very far, but the TLX kills it with the LED setup. Much crisper, brighter, and whiter. The beam is wider in the S2000 compared to both the TLX and the Accord but that is because the way the headlights are positioned in the S2000. But yeah, the TLX has a much better light output than the Accord.
Brakes- Accord has much better brakes than the TLX. Accord seems to stop quicker and the pedal feels more solid compared to the TLX.
Acceleration- TLX is a lot quicker and also feels amazing thanks to the DCT. Accord CVT feels bland, but it is still powerful.
Interior- Accord is bigger and wider, so more room.
Bells and whistles- TLX has the tilt down side mirror when backing up. Blind spot indicator (best feature yet). Touch screen interface (annoying at times compared to the Accord). Lane Keep Assist really helps and works wonderful to my surprise.
The only thing I don't like about the TLX compared to the Accord are the wheels. I think the wheels on the Accord look a lot better than the ones on the TLX.
Bottom line- I prefer driving the Acura more than I like driving the Accord, because the TLX feels much better =)
Let's talk about the main differences.
When it comes to overall handling and ride quality, the TLX beats the Accord anyday. TLX is more refined and smoother on bumps. The cabin is very quiet compared to the Accord, which was a surprise to me since the Accord is also very quiet.
The ELS sound system is much better than the upgraded EX-L sound system. I can play the same song in both cars and there is a huge difference. Both the cars lack in the bass department but TLX delivers the music with immense details.
As far as the headlights go- I also own a 2006 Honda S2000 with stock projectors and Osram CBI 5000k bulbs. The bulbs on the S2000 are very bright and white compared to the Accord. The Accord's halogen do travel very far, but the TLX kills it with the LED setup. Much crisper, brighter, and whiter. The beam is wider in the S2000 compared to both the TLX and the Accord but that is because the way the headlights are positioned in the S2000. But yeah, the TLX has a much better light output than the Accord.
Brakes- Accord has much better brakes than the TLX. Accord seems to stop quicker and the pedal feels more solid compared to the TLX.
Acceleration- TLX is a lot quicker and also feels amazing thanks to the DCT. Accord CVT feels bland, but it is still powerful.
Interior- Accord is bigger and wider, so more room.
Bells and whistles- TLX has the tilt down side mirror when backing up. Blind spot indicator (best feature yet). Touch screen interface (annoying at times compared to the Accord). Lane Keep Assist really helps and works wonderful to my surprise.
The only thing I don't like about the TLX compared to the Accord are the wheels. I think the wheels on the Accord look a lot better than the ones on the TLX.
Bottom line- I prefer driving the Acura more than I like driving the Accord, because the TLX feels much better =)
02-07-2015, 10:56 PM
#98
I recently looked and drove used Honda Accords and used Acura TLs. Man, there was no comparison in how they drove. The Accord was not bad, but the TL was much more refined. The power delivery was much smoother and it had the best brakes of any car I have driven. Because the cars were used, the price differential between them was not very big.
Just another perspective.
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02-08-2015, 12:13 AM
#99
02-08-2015, 12:50 PM
#101
Racer
Hard to believe there have been 100 posts on this subject. Seems like one would drive them, analyze them, and then buy what you like/want/can afford.
On the other hand, why the heck am I making it 101 posts?
On the other hand, why the heck am I making it 101 posts?
02-08-2015, 01:24 PM
#102
^^ Could be worst, you could be like me and make it 102!
I think both the Accord and TLX are great cars. One offers a little more exclusivity and technology/refinement while the other one offers a little bit more 'mainstream', just as good reliability and a little extra dough in your wallet.
The TLX is simply the Accord's rich cousin....They both have the same genes.
I think both the Accord and TLX are great cars. One offers a little more exclusivity and technology/refinement while the other one offers a little bit more 'mainstream', just as good reliability and a little extra dough in your wallet.
The TLX is simply the Accord's rich cousin....They both have the same genes.
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02-08-2015, 03:05 PM
#103
^^ Could be worst, you could be like me and make it 102!
I think both the Accord and TLX are great cars. One offers a little more exclusivity and technology/refinement while the other one offers a little bit more 'mainstream', just as good reliability and a little extra dough in your wallet.
The TLX is simply the Accord's rich cousin....They both have the same genes.
I think both the Accord and TLX are great cars. One offers a little more exclusivity and technology/refinement while the other one offers a little bit more 'mainstream', just as good reliability and a little extra dough in your wallet.
The TLX is simply the Accord's rich cousin....They both have the same genes.
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02-08-2015, 03:45 PM
#105
#105....the TLX is a great car, but if I were in the market right now for a sedan, I'd go for the Accord Touring hands down.
02-13-2015, 10:56 PM
#107
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In Canada the difference BEFORE fees and taxes for a TLX 2.4 Tech is about 7k vs an Accord Touring; 6k difference between a TLX V6 Tech and an Accord V6 Touring. I came, I saw, and I conquered……the V6 SH-AWD Tech…..about an 8K difference.
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02-15-2015, 11:40 AM
#111
Have a 3rd gen TL now and considering replacing it with a TLX or Accord Hybrid Touring. Was quite impressed with the interior tech features of the Hybrid which is comparable to the TLX. Having driven both cars, I would agree that the TLX has better handling and ride quality, but both cars are compelling. Though in Canada an Accord Hybrid Touring is about the same price as a TLX base.
02-15-2015, 02:06 PM
#112
Burning Brakes
Have a 3rd gen TL now and considering replacing it with a TLX or Accord Hybrid Touring. Was quite impressed with the interior tech features of the Hybrid which is comparable to the TLX. Having driven both cars, I would agree that the TLX has better handling and ride quality, but both cars are compelling. Though in Canada an Accord Hybrid Touring is about the same price as a TLX base.
02-15-2015, 05:26 PM
#113
Racer
I place great emphasis on ride and quietness, so I went with the TLX. But everyone has different priorities.
02-18-2015, 09:08 PM
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So if I negotiated about 1500 off the price of a fully loaded 2016 Mazda 6 with Technology package (estimating about 800 in fees that you won't find on the website), and put the same money down as I put on my 3.5 TLX SH-AWD, the payment is $20 more per month with taxes than my TLX. Hmmm….tough choice…NOT!!!
The 2% reduction in the interest rate for a previous Acura customer helps, but, it still wouldn't be close in terms of choice. Same reason why I would also take the Accord Touring 4 cylinder…better value proposition. The Mazda 6 is an excellent car, but…..
The 2% reduction in the interest rate for a previous Acura customer helps, but, it still wouldn't be close in terms of choice. Same reason why I would also take the Accord Touring 4 cylinder…better value proposition. The Mazda 6 is an excellent car, but…..
02-18-2015, 09:17 PM
#115
Mazda's traditionally poor resale value hurts their ability to offer good lease residuals. I remember back around 2004, we were looking to replace our first S2000 lease and looked at the RX-8. Although it was similar in selling price, the monthly payments were ~$200 higher! We went with another S2000, our third of four.
02-19-2015, 04:47 PM
#116
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The Mazda 6 is a nice car, but it seems a bit pricey. The fully loaded GT with Tech model is at $33k. The top of the line Accord Touring V6 is just $500 more, and you get a car that has much better performance than the Mazda 6.
While the TLX I4 Tech is some $2000 more expensive, you do get a car with a much more sophisticated transmission, better NVH, better performance, and more features in general.
I think $30k would have been more reasonable for a fully loaded Mazda 6.
While the TLX I4 Tech is some $2000 more expensive, you do get a car with a much more sophisticated transmission, better NVH, better performance, and more features in general.
I think $30k would have been more reasonable for a fully loaded Mazda 6.
02-20-2015, 08:33 AM
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Personal choice
Accord is a great car. I had one for a long time never had any issues. However, TLX is different car. It's gives you a nicer, quieter, smoother ride with the better feel of interior materials. I would say if you go for a ride and if you do not see obvious difference, go for Accord. For me, TLX V6 SH-AWD is amazing value for the car that has fantastic driving dynamics, great fuel economy and Honda reliability.
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