Consumer reports acura tlx
#82
Ah you beat me to it hahaa
You're likely right. They probably went the conservative route and chose fuel economy over performance. The TLX was never intended to be a performance cruiser. Honda is super passionate about fuel economy though (understandably, these days).
You're likely right. They probably went the conservative route and chose fuel economy over performance. The TLX was never intended to be a performance cruiser. Honda is super passionate about fuel economy though (understandably, these days).
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#83
Ok, fuck these reports. I don't even know who or what to believe anymore. Last week, Audi was ranked at the top in terms of reliability, by CR. Now they're nearing the bottom on this one. So which is it? It's fucking stupid you need to decipher these lists and analyze the shit out of them just to get a simpler answer of who is reliable and who isn't. Read the 50 pages of fine print, just to be sure!
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#84
I think part of it was fuel economy, and part of it was bragging rights to be able to say they have 9 vs 8 gears (as if your average buyer actually cares). They couldn't have used the ZF8 because that's for engines mounted the right way, but the Aisen 8 speed works with sideways engines (it's used in a bunch of Volvos and the RX350).
#85
Ok, fuck these reports. I don't even know who or what to believe anymore. Last week, Audi was ranked at the top in terms of reliability, by CR. Now they're nearing the bottom on this one. So which is it? It's fucking stupid you need to decipher these lists and analyze the shit out of them just to get a simpler answer of who is reliable and who isn't. Read the 50 pages of fine print, just to be sure!
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#92
So between a car that is rated not reliable for 12 out of 15 years vs. one that is rated not reliable for 3 out of 15 - you tell me which one has more weight?
To other posters: my comments were toward Audi A4 being #2 in the report. I wasn't doing any comparison between A4 vs. TLX or any other car. I am not a TLX fan boy. I don't have a TLX and don't plan to buy one. But relying on a reliability report of 3 recent years is very inadequate.
#93
If you have access to CR, pull up their year to year report for the last 15 years, you'll see that Audi A4 was generally ranked average or below average for the last 10-12 years. It's only started to get better recently.
So between a car that is rated not reliable for 12 out of 15 years vs. one that is rated not reliable for 3 out of 15 - you tell me which one has more weight?
To other posters: my comments were toward Audi A4 being #2 in the report. I wasn't doing any comparison between A4 vs. TLX or any other car. I am not a TLX fan boy. I don't have a TLX and don't plan to buy one. But relying on a reliability report of 3 recent years is very inadequate.
So between a car that is rated not reliable for 12 out of 15 years vs. one that is rated not reliable for 3 out of 15 - you tell me which one has more weight?
To other posters: my comments were toward Audi A4 being #2 in the report. I wasn't doing any comparison between A4 vs. TLX or any other car. I am not a TLX fan boy. I don't have a TLX and don't plan to buy one. But relying on a reliability report of 3 recent years is very inadequate.
#94
If you have access to CR, pull up their year to year report for the last 15 years, you'll see that Audi A4 was generally ranked average or below average for the last 10-12 years. It's only started to get better recently.
So between a car that is rated not reliable for 12 out of 15 years vs. one that is rated not reliable for 3 out of 15 - you tell me which one has more weight?
So between a car that is rated not reliable for 12 out of 15 years vs. one that is rated not reliable for 3 out of 15 - you tell me which one has more weight?
Depends on which models you are looking at. 3/4G TL vs B7/8 A4, the data says TL is more reliable. TLX vs B9 A4, the data says A4 is more reliable. It's not rocket science.
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justnspace (12-29-2017)
#95
Saying the A4 is bad because of it's previous generation is the same nonsense as saying the TLX is good because of the old generation TL. Both models got fairly big changes in between generations. Still doesn't prove either will be good or bad, but gives a general indication of what current customers saw so far. Put it this way, leasing both may be a good idea to calm all spirits.
And your leasing comment basically says they are both unreliable. So in a way, you kind of agree with me but you don't want to admit it
To other posters: my comments were toward Audi A4 being #2 in the report. I wasn't doing any comparison between A4 vs. TLX or any other car. I am not a TLX fan boy. I don't have a TLX and don't plan to buy one. But relying on a reliability report of 3 recent years is very inadequate.
#96
It is not nonsense. Toyota/Lexus/Honda/Acura don't earn their reliability status overnight. Hyundai has been doing a great job at proving themselves but it will take them a while to get to the status of the 4 brands. Audi has a long way to go to prove itself. I am surprised why this is so hard to understand for some of you. It's so obvious that your credit age plays a big part in your credit rating. Yet you are not seeing what I am saying ...
And your leasing comment basically says they are both unreliable. So in a way, you kind of agree with me but you don't want to admit it
LOL no it's not rocket science but you purposely quoted and ignored the last paragraph of my reply which says:
So I am out of here as this will go nowhere.
And your leasing comment basically says they are both unreliable. So in a way, you kind of agree with me but you don't want to admit it
LOL no it's not rocket science but you purposely quoted and ignored the last paragraph of my reply which says:
So I am out of here as this will go nowhere.
Brand reliability is NOT a product of reputation. Brand reliability is a numbers game. Don’t be a simpleton and fail to understand why the smarter of us don’t buy your nonsense.
#97
I did address your last parapraph. I disagree with its premise and my statement specified exactly what my position is. Reliability is affected by both design and manufacture. Where both companies have fallen down has predominantly been in engineering/design decisions, not manufacturing quality. Therefore I look primarily at the generation of the designs when deciding relevant data sets.
#98
Reliability reputation is very volatile. Actual brand reliability is from this generation forward. Each generation should be an improvement over the last one. When its not you have big problems to address. Over the last 5 years a number of brands have improved their positions while others have slipped.
Its a do you pick one whos older generations were good but the current is on a downward curve? Or do you pick a brand whos older generations were not so good to meh but are on an upward curve with the new generations? You have to pay to play but choosing wisely can be an interesting exercise.
Not an AUDI apologist but of the 4 recognized major luxury brands only AUDI will turn in a 2016 - 2017 year to year sales improvement.
Its a do you pick one whos older generations were good but the current is on a downward curve? Or do you pick a brand whos older generations were not so good to meh but are on an upward curve with the new generations? You have to pay to play but choosing wisely can be an interesting exercise.
Not an AUDI apologist but of the 4 recognized major luxury brands only AUDI will turn in a 2016 - 2017 year to year sales improvement.
#99
Will see what the future holds for my 17 A4, but so far its been problem free.
#100
A lot of the problems counted by the JD Power Initial Quality Study ends up being customers (usually on the older side) who can't figure out how to use the infotainment system. That's why it tends to skew towards cheaper cars that have fairly basic systems (and the buyers tend to be younger who tend to be better with technology). Older customers also tend to have more discriminating tastes, so they'll tend to nitpick, whereas younger buyers are just happy to have a new car.
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