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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 01:38 AM
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Widest Rear Width Possible

Does anyone know if a 10.5 will fit in the rear of a 4G Tl. Id like to run a staggered setup, but may have to settle for 9's all around.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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Depends entirely on the offset.... but I would imagine no, that's going to be probably far too large to fit. Maybe after rolling fenders and other mods.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by B.G.
Does anyone know if a 10.5 will fit in the rear of a 4G Tl. Id like to run a staggered setup, but may have to settle for 9's all around.
And you will only be able to run staggered if you do not have the AWD.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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The only reason other vehicle manufactures run a staggered wheel is to improve rear traction to better control hp/tq. This is exampled by Ferrari F430 Scuderia, Dodge Viper, etc. Putting different width (or diameter) wheels on your car (even with FWD) will have a negative effect on handling. Save your money.
Just having mismatched tires on your car is enough to screw with your ability to round the corner quickly and safely.

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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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And you will only be able to run staggered if you do not have the AWD.
why do you think that???
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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^^^^^Good point. My response was irresponsible and too much of a blanket statement. I am not well enough versed in how our SH-AWD's behave.

It is my understanding that perhaps you can do the staggered look as long as you keep the total diameter (rims + tires) of the fronts and rears as close as possible to each other.

Would I personally want to risk damage to the rear dif? probably not.

Like others have said you may have to only worry about not being able to properly rotate them, but my guess is if you are able to run staggered on your vehicle then you probably don't care about the cost of swapping sides etc.

Good luck and post pics and let us know how it handles
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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I would bet that with SHAWD having different width tires on your car will have a negative impact to the performance. I believe we discussed that in some different threads before, I'm still trying to find those ones.

I believe if you get the widths to be the same, you'll be ok. Maybe using different offsets to appear to have a staggered setup. But I would bet that the AWD system has been configured with the understanding that all 4 wheels are the same width. Having wider rear wheels on a AWD car would probably increase understeer (right?) and then the SHAWD system would probably overcompensate the torque on the wheels.

I could be totally full of BS on that one, but I don't want to be the first one to test that out. Would be cheaper to just get 4 wheels of the same width with a big lip to give a good look. (which is what I did).
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by B.G.
Does anyone know if a 10.5 will fit in the rear of a 4G Tl. Id like to run a staggered setup, but may have to settle for 9's all around.
Am not sure if anyone has tried it yet. The 4G has lots of room under the fenders. With certain tire size with a stretched and offset you probably can get a 10.5 on the rear. If you don't mind pulling or rolling fenders then anything is possible.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Thanks for the input guys... You know its funny, a lot of guys expressed their concerns when I wanted to run staggered on my S60R (awd car) saying that it would mess things up etc... I took the dive and have not had any problems at all. May be luck, but overall I couldnt be happier. Its my fiance's car and she really isnt a performance junkie. She's all about the aesthetics. Im either going to do it staggered or run same widths with diff offsets.. We shall c

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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 01:19 AM
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B.G. whatever route you decide to go, post some pics so we can see how it looks. Your volvo looks nice with the mods you've done.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FYAH TL
B.G. whatever route you decide to go, post some pics so we can see how it looks. Your volvo looks nice with the mods you've done.
Thanks man... I def will post up pics when she's all done. Upon further evaluation, it def looks like there is enough room. May have to roll to fenders though Cant wait to see your Works mounted up!
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by petec2010
I would bet that with SHAWD having different width tires on your car will have a negative impact to the performance. I believe we discussed that in some different threads before, I'm still trying to find those ones.

I believe if you get the widths to be the same, you'll be ok. Maybe using different offsets to appear to have a staggered setup. But I would bet that the AWD system has been configured with the understanding that all 4 wheels are the same width. Having wider rear wheels on a AWD car would probably increase understeer (right?) and then the SHAWD system would probably overcompensate the torque on the wheels.

I could be totally full of BS on that one, but I don't want to be the first one to test that out. Would be cheaper to just get 4 wheels of the same width with a big lip to give a good look. (which is what I did).
Right on the money!

Originally Posted by B.G.
Thanks for the input guys... You know its funny, a lot of guys expressed their concerns when I wanted to run staggered on my S60R (awd car) saying that it would mess things up etc... I took the dive and have not had any problems at all. May be luck, but overall I couldnt be happier. Its my fiance's car and she really isnt a performance junkie. She's all about the aesthetics. Im either going to do it staggered or run same widths with diff offsets.. We shall c

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Sure, if you use your car for grocery getting duties you will never notice the negative handling issues. And hey, why not add some spacers while your at it.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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sweet ride...
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:22 PM
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Nice! SUV clearance!
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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sweet ride...
haha, that looks nothing like something I would ever do to a car....I tastefully modify all my cars If the look im going for gets executed, I almost guarantee itll be a jaw dropper
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Marco
sweet ride...
Das a Ballah rite der!! All it needs is a body kit to fill the gap and its all goooood!
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by B.G.
haha, that looks nothing like something I would ever do to a car....I tastefully modify all my cars If the look im going for gets executed, I almost guarantee itll be a jaw dropper
I do agree with your thoughts on looks, and I know it would look hot with a staggered set-up.
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 777mycoolangelo
Das a Ballah rite der!! All it needs is a body kit to fill the gap and its all goooood!

lmao

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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by petec2010
I would bet that with SHAWD having different width tires on your car will have a negative impact to the performance. I believe we discussed that in some different threads before, I'm still trying to find those ones.

I believe if you get the widths to be the same, you'll be ok. Maybe using different offsets to appear to have a staggered setup. But I would bet that the AWD system has been configured with the understanding that all 4 wheels are the same width. Having wider rear wheels on a AWD car would probably increase understeer (right?) and then the SHAWD system would probably overcompensate the torque on the wheels.

I could be totally full of BS on that one, but I don't want to be the first one to test that out. Would be cheaper to just get 4 wheels of the same width with a big lip to give a good look. (which is what I did).
I think there's some merit to what you are saying. That may explain why on the Infiniti G the sport model comes with wider rear wheels...but not the AWD. It's not even offered as an option on the AWD. Although...I'm not an expert on it. if it were me I would research further for expert advise before doing it, or, just stay away from it.
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