ffmjst

does the progress rear sway bar/anti roll bar actually improve handling on everyday driving or would you just feel it on the track? some people say its a waste of money and some say it actually improves handling a lot and allows you to hit corners harder. need all the help because i don't know to much about this topic and thinking about getting one.

thank you please help

Packagingpro

Yes, its one of the best bang for the bucks in a mod, IMO for a Front Wheel Drive TL, not sure on a AWD.

Mr Marco

SOOOOoooo much understeer in the AWD. If it wasn't for the torque vectoring planting the rear in the right direction my 3.7 would drive like a 1970 El Dorado!!!

Handling is tricky, unless you are on a team at the track, I would not mess with AWD.

justnspace

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your car is meant to UNDERSTEER from the factory; by adding a larger rear sway bar it will balance the car out, making it more neutral in handling.

every day driving will improve.
it tightens up the rear.
switching lanes doesnt feel as floaty any more.

a rear sway bar is one of the cheapest and most effective mods you can do.

justnspace

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right, however; Progress has made a bar that is just perfect!

Mr Marco

^this is true unless you make the RSB too big (as I did). Back off the throttle in the corner and you'll find yourself pointing more to the right (and buying a new wheel to replace the one you bent on the curb).

Edward'TLS

I'm with you.

Unfortunately, it is what it is. The TL is a front-heavy sedan sitting on a FWD chassis, and with a FWD-biased AWD system.

But with adjustable shocks, one can crank up the front stiffness and crank down the rear stiffness, and the resulting car will oversteer like crazy.

But an oversteering car is not for the faint of heart, and requires lightning reflexes to keep the rear end from swing out all the times.

Anicra

Agreed, I have put larger sway bar(s) on my 1985 RX-7 GSLSE, 1992 Toyota Celica Supra Turbo, and my 2001 Acura CL type S (both) never been disappointed.

Steven Bell

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Go for it-I've got one too....love it.

potmilkz

i have it, i approve it, now get it.

Excelerate

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Has anyone been able to confirm yet that the FWD bar will fit the AWD TL? I believe it will based on the pictures and info I've seen but haven't been to confirm.

Also to the OP if you need the bar we have one in stock.

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-285295.aspx

potmilkz

i was sure it would fit.. no one has tried it.

Steven Bell

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What did you decide, OP?

AZNTL18

I think I'm going to get it. Thanks for the input.

David47

I have a 2013 TL FWD with Tech package. Was not looking to add mods this soon but this thread has changed my mind. Improved handling for less than $200 sounds like a no brainer.

Got under the car to scope it out and it looks fairly simple and straight-forward. A question for those who have done this on their own - Do you need to remove the rear wheels or loosen/lower the exhaust system to remove the original sway bar or to install the new one? It is tucked in there pretty good above the exhaust and there is not a lot of room between the ends of the sway bar and the wheels. I have some ramps which would be useful in creating some working room but if the wheels need to come off I will need to get some jack stands instead.

vivmike

Potz,

Is this plug and play?

ffmjst

yes i am going to buy it, just hope the install is rather easy, thanks for the help though guys

Edward'TLS

^^^^^

Do let us know how it goes, after having installed and tried out the new sway bar.

Slithr

Interesting, my experience has been that softening the front and stiffening the rear will help balance an understeering car.

You are correct that it is much easier for a novice to get in over his head in a car that tends to oversteer.

AZNTL18

Just got mine installed. Amazing improvement in handling and overall ride. The car feels much more solid and the body lean is barely there. Very happy with it so far. Install was not as easy with not having much room to get the old sway bar out and the new one in. Thanks for all the positive input on the sway bar. I concur.

Edward'TLS

You were correct. I had it the other way around. Fixed below in red.

shownfu

Is there any benefit for the TL-S? I thought they had beefy rear sways already.

Edward'TLS

If the aftermarket sway bar is stiffer than the OEM one, then yes there will be benefit.

Otherwise, don't waste your money.

Inspire08

What is the size mm for the OEM sway bar (2013 TL)? I'm thinking this is my next upgrade.

illistik

For those of you with the Progress rear sway bar on the car, what are your current suspension setups (stock, springs, coils, etc)? Any issues so far? I've been sort of hesitant on purchasing the RSB as a member on here had their mounts ripped off the subframe. I haven't heard of anyone else with any issues so I'm wondering if this is a one-off case. Previously, I had the progress RSB on my RSX and never had any issues.

wreak

I have a 2012 FWD with Tein H-tech springs and the 22mm progress sway bar. I've had the bar installed for just over a year on the soft setting with no issues. The bar used to be a 24mm but when Progress heard about the rear subframe tearing they revised the bar down to 22mm. I found a huge difference when installing the bar, body roll was reduced by a lot and the car feels more buttoned down and confident in the corners, I highly recommend it.

justnspace

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think about it, illistik..
you're adding a thicker tension bar. when going over bumps unevenly, one side will have more stress than the other. as in you'll be three wheelin
it is advisable to go over bumps EVENLY, so to not put stress on one side of the bar... .

illistik

Thanks for the feedback guys. Would beefier end links help put less stress on the subframe points?

justnspace

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no.
stiffer rear springs will lessen the stress.

or you could just change the way you drive and make sure your back wheels dont ever three wheel

justnspace

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but as stated; progress moved from the 24mm bar down to a 22mm bar.
you should totally be fine

illistik

Appreciate it, thanks justnspace.