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So I ordered the 22mm Progress RSB. I'm curious if anyone is running this newer revised version (old version was 24mm) and if they have any info on the difference between the soft and stiff setting.
I'm probably going to just put it on stiff but wouldn't mind some feedback if any members has used the bar on the difference between the two settings.
The bar has touched down in my garage, I'm excited to install it since fun mods like this have been few and far between since my son was born.
It seems like a pretty solid unit, I will weigh it to compare to the stock bar during install, I'm curious how much heavier it is.
I've decided to set it at the stiff setting when I install it. Review and pictures to follow. I'm hoping to install it this coming weekend. Stay tuned.
Install should be coming soon, I had to grab a few things, 13/32" metal drill bit, teflon tape, lithium chassis grease (because I don't think the grease they gave is good enough), and a 5mm hex since the one I had wasn't going to cut it.
just remember, you have to make the original bolt holes that hold the rsb to the frame bigger this going back to stock is kinda not possible as the holes are no longer snug.
the metal is very thin down there.. i would go get a 22mm if i was not on air. but since i am it is useless.
just remember, you have to make the original bolt holes that hold the rsb to the frame bigger this going back to stock is kinda not possible as the holes are no longer snug.
the metal is very thin down there.. i would go get a 22mm if i was not on air. but since i am it is useless.
Yeah that's why I mentioned picking up a 13/32" drill bit in my prior post. Sucks you can't really go back to stock but I doubt I'd want to get under there and remove it when I sell the car anyway.
I have the Progress bar 22mm installed on the soft setting, was told the stiffer setting will put too much stress on the thin mounting points. So far no problems with it for over a year.
I have the Progress bar 22mm installed on the soft setting, was told the stiffer setting will put too much stress on the thin mounting points. So far no problems with it for over a year.
Did you notice much of a difference with the new bar on the soft setting? Are you FWD or SH-AWD? Who told you the stiff setting will put too much stress on the mounts?
Did you notice much of a difference with the new bar on the soft setting? Are you FWD or SH-AWD? Who told you the stiff setting will put too much stress on the mounts?
mounts were ripped on here on a few TL's a few years ago and also on the 3G side for the rear subframe.
Did you notice much of a difference with the new bar on the soft setting? Are you FWD or SH-AWD? Who told you the stiff setting will put too much stress on the mounts?
My car is a 09 FWD and yes you can tell the difference right after installing the 22mm sway bar, the car feels like on rails and feels more together, IMO this is the best upgrade you can do to your car and it is cheap. And about messing up the mounting points/rear frame I remember reading it in this forum 4G and 3G owners. My advice is stay in the soft setting.
If it is a FWD trim model, then installed the OEM AWD-TL rear sway bar will also have similar effect, because both the AWD front and AWD rear sway bars are thicker/stiffer than those on the FWD trim model.
In addition, the factory AWD-TL rear sway won't risk damaging the rear mounts, since it is OEM on the 4G AWD TL.
If it is a FWD trim model, then installed the OEM AWD-TL rear sway bar will also have similar effect, because both the AWD front and AWD rear sway bars are thicker/stiffer than those on the FWD trim model.
In addition, the factory AWD-TL rear sway won't risk damaging the rear mounts, since it is OEM on the 4G AWD TL.
Has it been confirmed that the 4g AWD sway bars will fit the4g FWD? If so I'm in, if rather do that swap than drill into the sub frame! It wasn't really confirmed in this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/tires-wheels-suspension-298/progress-rear-sway-bar-09-tl-fwd-747113/page2/
There's a diy for the 4g TL AWD rsb swap onto a Accord Contour so me guessing it would work:http://www.crosstourownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4433
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Finally installed this today, I put it on the soft setting and what a difference in handling! Feel free to ask any questions, it took me about 2 hrs to install alone. I didn't unbolt the lower control arm like the instructions say and was able to slip the old bar out and new bar in with some maneuvering. I took some extra steps to avoid squeaks, more lube and Teflon tape. Can't wait to take it for an extended drive to really test it out. I took a couple pictures with a potato that I'll post later.
So I've had a chance to do some driving but nothing really aggressive yet. The car feels more buttoned down in the back, steering even feels more precise and body roll has decreased by a lot, the car is very flat in the curves/sweeping turns in the soft setting.
Here are a couple pictures:
Progress 22mm 09-14 Acura TL sway bar comparison to OEM FWD bar
Progress 22mm 09-14 Acura TL sway bar comparison to OEM FWD bar
So I have some additional feedback even though it seems that nobody really cares haha.
I'm convinced that this bar has helped to reduce some of the creaks in the interior while driving on uneven pavement, which makes total sense since the chassis doesn't flex nearly as much with it. I'm very tempted to go to the stiff setting and see how that feels...
Thanks for the update Wreak. How do you feel about the understeer/oversteer balance? On my old Accord I threw on a TL Type S OEM RSB, and there was so much oversteer it was a little frightening, and that car was just a 4cyl. I can't imagine what 280HP would induce if the same thing applied to the 4G.
It definitely altered the steering dynamics by a lot, the instructions say to always put it on soft and test drive in a safe area to re-learn how the car responds to steering inputs. You get used to it and I've not felt like the car is unpredictable in anyway, but I wouldn't recommend to install this and hop on a twisty road driving like a a madman, because you really have to adjust how you steer afterwards.
I will definitely move to the hard setting at some point in the future and will follow up with any feedback on how that feels over the soft setting.
Thanks for the update Wreak. How do you feel about the understeer/oversteer balance? On my old Accord I threw on a TL Type S OEM RSB, and there was so much oversteer it was a little frightening, and that car was just a 4cyl. I can't imagine what 280HP would induce if the same thing applied to the 4G.
Since aftermarket sway bars have little to no custom tuning capability, it is best to install a set of adjustable shocks in order to do custom tuning in the overall understeer/oversteer handling characteristics.
Stiffer front shocks than rear shocks will induce more understeering.
Stiffer rear shocks than front shocks will induce more oversteering.
As such, it is possible to tune the resulting car from heavy understeer to neutral handling, and even all the way to heavy oversteer, to suit each driver's unique driving style.
Thanks for the feedback... I think I will end up going with this mod later this summer. I just changed over to 19" Gram Light wheels with Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires a week ago and am loving it. Probably should wait for a while to get used to the setup before making any changes...
What is the OEM thickness of the rear sway bar on an SH-AWD? is this progress bar enough thicker to be a worthwhile upgrade for awd cars?
My understanding is that the SH-AWD uses a 20mm rear bar, so while the difference wouldn't be as noticeable as it is on the FWD it would still be an upgrade. I would also bet that the metal on the ends of the bar is really thin on the SHAWD bar versus beefy like on the progress bar so that would also help.
03-10-2016, 10:50 AM
