probmxstyle

Does anyone know if the Koni yellow shocks for the TSX fit a 2012 TL sh-awd? Saw these online and it made me curious. http://www.heeltoeauto.com/koni-yell...roductid=66568
They allow for a 20mm drop by adjusting the spring perch. I would like to use them with the stock springs for a minimal drop.

potmilkz

dont think they are interchangeable.. but koni probably made it to where it would work.

potmilkz

nvm, just checked their website, they dont have a application for the 4th gen tl..

probmxstyle

That is what I originally thought too, but when I emailed the site, they replied saying that they fit.

potmilkz

if that is so, you can just order from koni directly.. they are about 200 bucks cheaper than helltoe..

zapco

Heeltoe is a ripoff. Guy sells his crap from his house in Oregon.

23109VC

koni said their yellow sport shocks woudl fit into our TLs? those shocks are nice. I ran koni yellows and springs on my old Honda Prelude SH and that car handled so nice for a FWD car.. i had a RSB upgrade too... what a fun car... WDP just like my TL..

keep us posted on this. for those of us who already have lowereing springs..adding a set of koni yellows might be a cheaper way to upgrade suspension vs swapping to full coils.

thanks.

potmilkz

it might be depending on price.. if the koni's are about 450 shipped it will be worth it.. if it is 650 shipped, you might as well get teins.

paperboy42190

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i dont think konis are 450 shipped...konis are the best shocks available for most cars. with the right spring combo, it will outperform MANY coilovers under $1000 in performance and comfort.

probmxstyle

Actually, Koni wants $840 for the set, so they are about $200 more.

CerberusKy

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I have done business with HeelToe, and found there prices to be competitive with the other companies that are selling TL specific items. Customer service has been very good as far as my experience goes; and I will continue to do business with them, and encourage others to do so.

potmilkz

woops nvm i was reading off the koni website, notice that it was charged separately per side..

Excelerate

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I'm going to confirm with KONI on this. It should physically fit.

We have a set of these in stock, if anyone wants them.

http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com.../i-498523.aspx

http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com.../i-498524.aspx

Two of rear are needed:

http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com.../i-498522.aspx

Excelerate

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This is what KONI said:

KONI does not currently list an available application for the 12' TL. So I cannot confirm that the TSX shocks will fit. Though the previous 04-08 model TSX and TL's used the same front and rear shocks, it is possible but not been confirmed by KONI.

Mason O’Hara
Technical Sales Representative

HeartTLs

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I've done business with Heeltoe and also only have good things to say about Marcus. Since when does retail location make him someone a ripoff?

zapco

When he tries to charge Cali resident's sales tax, but sells shit out his house in Oregon...no state tax.

Edward'TLS

^^^^^

Did he refund the difference after you caught him overcharged ?

probmxstyle

Can we please stay on the subject? I did not intend to start a vendor dispute. I simply want to know if the Koni's will fit.

probmxstyle

So I was on KYB's website and they use the same model number for the rear shocks for a 2012 TL and TSX. However, the front shocks use a different number. The stroke length and the extended length have different specs on the fronts. The compressed length is the same. The specs for the rear shocks are the same obviously.

Excelerate

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Did you read what I wrote above?

More than likely they will physically fit. But they probably have different valving, which isn't a huge deal since the KONI Sport shocks have adjustable valving.

probmxstyle

I did see your reply, it was actually the same reply I got when emailing KONI. I did some more research on KYB's site and noticed that they use the same model number for the rear shocks on 2009+ TSX's and 2009+ TL's. As for the front struts, they are different model numbers and according to KYB's specs, the extended length and stroke length are different. However, the compressed length is the same. If KONI wanted to develop struts/shocks for the TL, it sounds like they would only need to worry about the front.

probmxstyle

Someone in or near KY should hit up KONI and get some free shocks

http://www.koni-na.com/testfits.cfm

Excelerate

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I'll give $100 off our website price to anyone who is willing to test out the KONI shocks for fitment. Of course that means $25 off each shock price.

probmxstyle

And if they don't fit? Can they be returned?

potmilkz

^^good question lol..

Ziffle

Damn, I'm only an hour away from them. I may fill out that application and see what happens.

probmxstyle

I was thinking about it and I am 8 hours away. Do it!

staro0989

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Not the best reference if they will work on the TL or not but some coilover companies have listed the same coilovers for the 08+ Accord/09+ TL/09+ TSX. I currently have the Koni shocks in question on my Accord and they are awesome!

probmxstyle

Just to follow up. Did some more digging this morning and found the following pictures of a 09+ TSX and an 09+ TL front strut setup.

TSX


TL


They look identical.

potmilkz

^^ we need specifics.. lenght of strut? tl and tsx weights are different, what is the spring rate?

i wouldnt put on coils that is not designed for the car it was intended for.. just saying..

probmxstyle

Wouldn't the weight only matter for the springs? I would use the TL factory springs on the KONI's. We know the TSX and the TL use the same rear shocks, and they can't be the same weight in the rear.

potmilkz

so what is the point of swapping out shocks if your only going to keep the stock springs on?? seems kind of pointless to drop that much money and to only be able to change the dampening of the shocks and not the height at all.

probmxstyle

They actually have an adjustable spring perch which lowers the car 20mm. I know its not much, but I am not happy with the factory dampening and I don't want to slam my car.

potmilkz

again i see no benefit into doing this.. you spend nearly 850..(installation and alignment) when you can easily buy tein basics or Street advance for 100-200 more.. and you get more out of it..



koni.. $649
tein basic - $729
tein Street advance - $849
tein ss - $949

and plus.. those shocks are made to work better with lowering springs anyways.. putting stock springs on really makes it no different then stock shocks.

probmxstyle

I can do the install myself, plus if I can get $100 from the vender, then its only 550. Another reason I am going this route is that one of my shocks is making noise at low speed. Acura refuses to fix it and says that it is a characteristic of the car. Hence me taking the matters into my own hands. This allows me to put the least amount into replacing the shocks without going with factory shocks.

potmilkz

so you wouldn't pay that $80 difference to get tein basics when it is clearly better than koni's as it is full sleeved coils with 16way dampening?

potmilkz

edit: sorry it is $150 difference "if" you are able to get a 100 discount from vendor.... heeltoe sells it for 703 with discount code.

probmxstyle

I see where you are coming from, I just don't know much about the durability of Tein. I have heard of some issues. Maybe my concerns are unwarranted, but with KONI I know I get a lifetime (as long as I own the car) warranty.

potmilkz

ive had it for 3 years.. and still going strong.. no complaints whatsoever... not sure how it would hold up against areas where there are salt.. but that applies to every strut/coil system out there..

staro0989

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I don't think the Tein Basis/Basics have adjustable dampening. The Street Advance/SS do however. Koni Yellow shocks have adjustable dampening also, a lifetime warranty, a great reputation, etc. Not saying Tein isn't good as they have a great reputation also, just depends what you are looking for. A 1 year warranty wasn't long enough for me, that's why I went with Koni Yellow shocks and springs on my Accord.