Brock79

Just curious if anyone has heard of these tires or have had any experience with them?

justnspace

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any tire that cost 60-80 bucks will have its shortfalls.
just know what you are getting into, and if you are okay with a sub-par tire, then go for it.

lift3d_

tires are never something to cheap out on....find a more reputable brand.

TeamAcura

Junk. Cheap ass tires. Just like Nankang, Triangle and Lexani. Don't skimp on tires. With all your training from driving school, figured you would know better.

justnspace

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well, it is Brock...we're talking about..

Brock79

I wasn't asking about the cost and I know all about tires. The question was about the reliability more or less. The wheel shops seem to be pushing these lately, like they did Falkens back in 2001. I never liked Falkens after the two sets I owned, but I hear the brand is a different animal these days. I'm pricing wheels and the shops are practically giving these diventes away. I only found one bad review on them and there is only a handful of good reviews. I have personally never heard of them until today. I'm assuming it's a small company trying to do the Falken thing, it didn't work for lexan though.

justnspace

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^there's your answer, brock.

if you know what you're getting into, purchase them.

Brock79

I'm not gonna buy them, I was curious about them that's all.

TeamAcura

You are wrong about Falken, they've been around since the early 80s and actually started out in racing. They gradually introduce tires to consumers a couple years after. No small time or no name company either. Lexani started out as a wheel company and branched out to tires so they are relatively new to the tire industry.

Brock79

Well when I first got Falkens no one in my area really knew about them at all, and that's the NYC area. I do know the tires sucked big time when I got them though. The wheels held up pretty decently though.

scotty2hotty

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Falken's run wide but are very good.

Nankang's stretch great and are AWESOME tires at any price point.

I'm currenty on Nitto NeoGen's but the Nankang's are some of the best tires I have stretched on my DD. (Work Equip 15x9 with nankang's 215/40R15).

Matts_Acura

I've actually heard the Nankang's are pretty good. It seems a lot of the guys in the VIP forums run them since they stretch well. Maybe the quality has increased over the years. Then again a lot of people who run a VIP style setup or a stanced setup don't really push the car hard so the quality of tire doesn't really come into play.


Every tire company has to start somewhere... I'd be leery of a tire that doesn't have a decent amount of reviews. I got some Achilles tires after I burnt through my yokohamas and for how I drive they are just as good. They had a substantial amount of positive reviews and the negatives mainly speaking to the loudness. Living in Florida one of my main concerns is how they hold up in the rain. During the summers it rains randomly and when it does it freaking pours like a monsoon for about 15 minutes. The Achilles tires I run have held up very well in massive storms and hook very well in dry weather. I will most likely buy them again.

lift3d_

just read up the Nitto NeoGens since I had never heard of them, very unique tread pattern eh

TeamAcura

LMAO Nankang tires are awesome because they stretch good? That's hilarious. Don't get me wrong, they've been around for a very long time but they are still cheap tires. BTW, Toyo owns Nitto.

ucf_bronco

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So let me get this straight Brock, you searched around the internet for reviews and created a thread on here to get people's input...for tires that you had no intention of buying?

I guess that makes sense.

lift3d_

Learned something new today! Thanks!

HeartTLs

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Middle block is similar to vredestein ultrac sessantas.

Brock79

Not exactly, I was more interested if anyone had even heard of them. That was my main purpose of this thread. Like it says in my first post has anyone heard of them?

scotty2hotty

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I don't see what is so funny.

You never owned a set, but bash them because of the low price.

They are great tires, I will be running them on my TL as soon as my Meister SP1's arrive.

TeamAcura

I think it's funny because you're saying they are awesome tyres because they stretch well. What about road noise, longevity and grip. While I never owned one, I've done my fair share of research to know not to skimp on tyres. You drive a nice car, buy some nice wheels but get cheap tyres. It's what keeps you on the road. All the info I read say they're loud, rubber is rock hard and no grip in inclement weather. I've read the NS1 are decent. Only budget tire I'd consider is Kumho. Other than that, mid grade tires is what I'd buy first.

justnspace

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i agree with TeamAcura.

I wont even put on crappy tires on my '12 Kia Sportage.
just because they stretch well doesnt mean they are great tires.

tires are for traction and not for stretching.

thakid22

I ran these tires on my old 1999 Dodge Avenger ES V6.
I used size 235/40/18.

The good:
Treadwear was good. When I sold the car I had 20k miles on these tires and they had more than 50% tread left.
Noise, was good. These were quiet tires. I would say they are quieter than the move Michelin honda loves.
Ride quality was smooth as silk. Very muted inputs from the road.
Turn in feel was good. On center steering feel was average.
Hydroplaning resistance was stellar.

The bad:
Flatspotting. Park the car for 10+ hours and you would be greeted by a rotational vibration and thump on all four wheels when next driving the car. The flat spots would smooth out in about 5 miles in warm weather and about 15 in cold weather. Not cool.
Traction was lacking. Dry cornering could produce oversteer or understeer depending on tire temps and road surface. Ultimate grip was mediocre. Wet cornering was borderline dangerous. Use caution. Braking ability was poor on dry surfaces and worse on wet pavement. The Avenger had no ABS.
Acceleration grip was adequate in wet and dry, but take that with a grain of salt as the Avenger had only 170hp and similar torque.


If you are a spirited driver, you will find the low traction levels limiting.
All drivers will be offended by the Flatspotting (though i've run into flatspotting with expensive name brand tires too).

If you never drive your car beyond 7/10th of its capability you may never experience the low traction in the dry. But it will bite you in the wet. And let's not even think about emergency manuvers...

Now you know... If I left anything, out ask me. I'll tell you what my experience was.

lift3d_

Thanks for the detailed writeup!

Matts_Acura

No freaking wonder.... I didn't even think about flat spots. When I had my Yokohama S Drives they did this crap. I was wondering why the ride was so weird feeling first thing in the morning. Flat spots never crossed my mind. Mystery Solved.

HeartTLs

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Thakid22 thanks for the write up! You must be the ultimate lurker, +10yrs a member and only 4 posts, this man has got some secrets.

Brock79

I noticed the stock Michelins also get flat spots as well. I don't drive my TL everyday and that might be part of the problem as well.

lift3d_

I've never noticed flat spots before, but now that everyone is talking about them I'm sure I will suddenly become super aware of them haha. Thanks a lot!

TeamAcura

If you're getting flat spots just having it parked for 10 hours or even a week then there's a leak somewhere. Tires should not have a flat spot just sitting there for a day or so. Nitro fill the tires to at least 95% and it should prevent flat spots from occuring sooner.

sockpuppet

This seems like a legitimate question to me. If there's a deal to be had out there, it's worth knowing about.

I've never heard of these tires, but my regular tire guys don't carry them...that's good enough for me.

justnspace

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but if 80% of the air in the atmosphere is nitrogen....

TeamAcura

Bastard LOL. Always gotta make a case. Pressurized air in our tires still do not equal to at least 95% nitrogen.

Brock79

The oem Michelins are known for getting flat spots. The worst case is normally in the summer when the tire is softer. I called Michelins customer service and they confirmed my suspicion. Two Acura dealers have said the same thing.

TeamAcura

Hmmm...interesting statement. I have the same Michelin tyres on my stockies and never experienced a flat spot yet. There were a few occasions I went out of state over the weekend and my car was parked for a couple of days with no vibrations when I drove it. I'd check the tire pressure the next time I let it sit there for a couple days to see if it's losing air.

Joe Sanford

Finally, someone who actually gave what brock79 asked for, thanks for the information. To the rest of you take note and follow suit instead of writing pure conjecture based on price point, that helps no one... my 2 cents

Edward'TLS

No one wants to waste precious money trying out bad apples, that's why the no help.

herbert6368

If you wanna get some cheap tires, get the Achillies ATR Sport, they are the best in the non-expensive tires

JasonK

Pretty much.

I wouldn't recommend putting a shitty tire on a 400-whatever $ rim anyways.

Khairul Azman

Very damned good tires. Been driving on them for 6 months. Quite and smooth rides. No complaonts.
VALUE FOR MONEY.