Sound clip please!

 

heatsoak will depend on car to car.. bmw m3's have no issues with SRI as the intake is placed in a location in the engine bay where air flows through nicely.. which is in the front, far away from the engine.

making your own SRI or shit like that is cool and all, but does very little.. maybe a bit of sound.. possibly increase hp... never know till you dyno it with a tune.

 

Never seen a NA car such as a TL have heat soak. That is something most FI cars get when doing back to back pulls or sitting still in traffic for long periods of time. The variance of IAT1 and IAT2 isn't huge like in FI cars than can exceed and 30 to 40 degrees temperature variance after a few good pulls

 

Do a write up. The more detailed the better. With pics. ☺

 

No worries, it'll be posted in my thread

 

For those who might be worried about debris in the intake here's what I had on my modded Yamaha Banshee :

http://www.toomey.com/index.php?page...emart&Itemid=3

Just drill a 1" hole and you're done !!

 

Just let me know where you work so I can avoid your shop. First off there is absolutely no gain from this abortion. This is not a mod but an abortion. Secondly you're cutting holes under the air filter. So now you have open holes with nothing to block debris going directly into your engine. The noise you hear is from turbulence now that the air is not flowing smoothly like the stock air box was designed to do. Heat soak is not an issue because this car even maxed with every possible mod is not achieving no where near the temps that would cause heat soak. The stock cooling system is plenty enough to keep this engine cool. When you have a high HP engine you need larger injectors with more air which makes a larger hotter ignition, this gives you the heat soak because you're overpowering the cooling system. The TL modded out still runs the same injectors which gives you the same amount of fuel delivery. People need to stop reading boxes that say 10 hp gains and start looking at how you actually get that 10hp. Also the TL is in desperate need of some more TQ.

 

Stopped reading after your comment that the air was entering the engine unfiltered, clearly you know nothing about the oem airbox design.

 

Haha this reminds me of when I use to prop open the stock intake box on my Mom's Mazda 6 to gain more air induction back in the day. Nice throaty sound but no power gains. Only thing more legit about my set up when doing it, was the fact that it was before the filter which kept it clean. I'm sure you can do it to the TL but I'd rather buy an intake. Except now I'd only get the CT Engineering and not the takeda. Different styles. But I'm all about quality.

 

Obviously you know nothing about the oem air box, once you put holes under the filter air is now entering unfiltered. Please do some research and learn how this mod actually works. You should've kept reading you might have learned something.

 

^^^ Doesn't the unfiltered air then pass through the filter before entering the engine?

 

air comes unfiltered either you cut the holes or not, that's why the filter is there...fail.

 

I assume you're smarter than you type. Of course air is unfiltered going into your air box. That's why you have an air filter. The air filter will filter the air coming through the tube and passing through the air filter. Now the holes that are drilled UNDER the filter are pulling air directly into the engine bypassing the air filter, hence unfiltered air entering the engine. This is the unfiltered air I'm speaking of. You have failed on your comment and obviously have no idea how an air box and intake work. Go do your homework before you make ridiculous stupid comment again.

 

After reading a few posts on here I understand why they put warning labels on things.

 

The pic below (from post #1) shows the holes are drilled right next to where the air enters the box in OEM fashion...thus proving that it flows from bottom to top (and passing through the filter). How in the hell is the air from the drilled holes bypassing the filter? Now if they were drilled ABOVE the filter then your argument would make sense.

 

Lmao you sir, are an idiot. It's one thing to be wrong, but to be ignorant about it is a whole different level.

 

if it bypasses the filter then how the hell does it enter the engine??!! Jesus.

 

HOLY SHIT BROCK, your an idiot.. i hope you know that the air gets sucked through the bottom and past the filter going upwards.. not downwards.

you sir are a fucken idiot.

 

here is an idiot proof drawing..

red represents the filter..

blue represents the air and the arrows represent the air flow

 

lol.. now were are all sitting here laughing at this idiot.. he has no idea what he is talking about and yet alone tell us to do our homework.. this is classic..

 

Glad I could help get this straightened out, haha. It's one thing to be wrong, it's another to try and make others feel stupid by talking down to them only to find out they're actually right!

Brock, maybe next time you shouldn't come into a thread pounding your chest until you get your facts straight...

 

1st picture.. filter is clean on the top side..
2nd picture is showing filter flipped over exposing its bottom side.. which is the dirty part.. thus meaning that air comes from bottom up.. air gets passed through the filter as it comes in.

you are as dumb as you sound.. truthfully you should not give anymore advice... if you dont even know how a simple intake work, i really dont know what to say to you.. this type of intake has been around for 25+ years.. and yet you fail to see how it works still..

 

this......lmao!!!!!!!!!!

 

waiting for him to give me some lame excuse... on why he though this was that and blah blah blah.

 

Telling me to do my homework lol. Brock I've been doing homework since I was a little kid playing in a dirt with a moped engine trying to strap it to my trycle. You on the other hand might of missed a basic engine lesson or two.

 

basic engine lessons are probably too complicated for him.. we need to start him in how pump gas first.. then we upgrade him to turning on the headlights.

 

Lmmfao...heat soak effects NA, SC and Turbo...Engine get too hot its lets effective period and starts to pull timing...All cold climate drivers get a boost to HP during the winter months...

On Topic: Your TL OP do what you want..I seen far worst and lame exterior mods posted on this site

 

And where is your Shop?

 

My two cents... for what its worth here.

First, heatsoak. For the power our engines put out, with how hot it gets in your bays, the temperature never gets hot enough where moving more than 10mph will negate most to all temp gains. This has been proven in many on-line videos.
So heat soak isnt much of an issue. Sure the initial pull will be weaker due to warmer less dense air, but this will change the moment the car begins to move and air circulates.

That just ends in the usual CAI vs SRI argument which this thread could probably do without.

Next topic, the holes themselves. I see no issues with them. They will provide slight increase in noise and performance. When I say slight I really mean slight people.

First, Im sure one of the first posters was already answered but no the filter sits above all the holes, so no air is getting past unfiltered.

The OEM intake is a closed housing design to reduce noise. In marketing we all understand they want the cars as quiet as possible, regardless if we agree or not.

The extra holes may just increase air flow as air circulates in the bay. It will increase noise dramatically for minimal performance change... hence why Acura leaves it closed housing.
The Takeda RETAIN intake basically uses this idea. It replaces the top half of the air box, creating a large hole in the rear of the air box, then replaces the drop in filter with a oversized cone filter. Same exact design here without the name brand.

Good mod at 0$ cost if you own a dremel or something else to cut out a hole.

 

Holy shot it's way to easy to troll you guys on here, what's this the third time. You guys are to easy, I figured Potz would have figured it out, but I guess not. Potz didn't fall for the second one, so I figured no way he would end up on this one. I knew Grigio would fall for it though. He did respond to the stick shift comment on his exhaust thread.

 

ladies and gentlemen.. here is your lame excuse..

 

Why wouldn't I respond....? You asked me a question and I responded. You must be pretty bad at trolling or just realized you fucked up on this one.

 

Come on Potz you're smarter than that. And Grigio I didn't want to take it any further after other people started in on you about speeding in the snow and no seatbelt. That took the conversation to a different place so I let it be.

 

Lol what? We must be looking at different threads. I'm done with this one.

 

so i guess anything that brock post is pretty much bullshit.. since he is trolling all the time... guess your known here now as "that guy"

 

LMAO at claiming trolling when its blatantly obvious he just had no clue what he was talking about, maybe the Taurus uses one of those new upside down filter boxes.

 

wow..i NEEDED all this entertainment after coming home from work. thanks guys, and Brock, I don't own NOR work in a shop...I have been a Heavy mobile equipment MECHANIC for the past 10 years for the US Gov, DoD to be exact. I can email you my resume if you'd like...building and repairing gas, diesel, electric motors/engines, automatic (electronic shift as well as solenoid actuated) and "manual" transmissions...the list goes on. BUT ONE THING I must mention is my time running the dynos and tuning for the diesel engines...I don't expect you to understand mechanics, MUCH LESS engineering. So, have a great time on the 'Zine "TROLLING". Pardon me, I have a man to call about an STI right now though

 

Damn, I'm ashamed to be part of the same state as this kid....

 

I don't want to hastily judge things you've said in the past, but it really makes me question the authenticity of past statements; especially when you're now claiming this and other posts were "troll" attempts.

 

Yes, he's officially "that guy" and has lost all credibility. Everything he says going forward will be taken with a grain of salt and the majority of it will be ignored.

I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt thinking he would come back and be a man and admit he was wrong. So much for that idea!

I don't understand the purpose of turning fellow AZ members against you...