I'm back and I have my CAI installed!
The 3G digs it from the lower front. The 4G has an airscoop at the front of the grille. The shortram also takes advantage of it. Honda actually calls this a "Factory Cold Air Intake" on the 4G
TRADITIONALLY, aside from the V2 AEMs and their diameter changes, and the big "WHALE" intakes, the tube on a stick is pretty much the same across the board.
On the newest J37 and J35, Honda is using a MAF sensor, as opposed to relying on the MAP for air levels, so the tube on a stick now has a flange for what is generally regarded as a very finicky sensor. Wrong depth/placement of the sensor = bad juju for gains. So it's no longer "just a tube on a stick", it's a "tube on a stick with a sensor flange" - and not all are going to be created equal; though there isn't going to be MUCH variance.
TRADITIONALLY, aside from the V2 AEMs and their diameter changes, and the big "WHALE" intakes, the tube on a stick is pretty much the same across the board.
On the newest J37 and J35, Honda is using a MAF sensor, as opposed to relying on the MAP for air levels, so the tube on a stick now has a flange for what is generally regarded as a very finicky sensor. Wrong depth/placement of the sensor = bad juju for gains. So it's no longer "just a tube on a stick", it's a "tube on a stick with a sensor flange" - and not all are going to be created equal; though there isn't going to be MUCH variance.
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^^HAHAHA. My wife refuses to wear anything on her feet that doesn't have a heel on it at least 3 inches in length, and after letting her burn a civic clutch up in 30k - I figured I'd keep both the nice cars in slushbox form.
I've still got the original J32A2 from my 03CL, and a 6 speed gearbox, just itching to go into an EK Civic Hatch shell that I'm trying to talk my buddy into giving me....
I've still got the original J32A2 from my 03CL, and a 6 speed gearbox, just itching to go into an EK Civic Hatch shell that I'm trying to talk my buddy into giving me....
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Prepreludesh was the one that hooked up his car to an ipad via an odbII port connector - for the life of me i can't find the thread where he shows the air temp in the engine bay dropped to about the same in a couple of places when he started moving. Here is the thread where he hooked it up.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=87
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That's kind of it though. I've done fast Hondas for years. The 07 feels like a fast Honda - pulls hard, nose dives, back gets light, etc. The 4G is a completely different beast. It just moves out, but you don't really feel that "rubber band" effect like you do on a fast FF car.
Lining them up, I'd take the 4G on a race to 30, the 3G on a race to 60, I think they'd be neck and neck to 100, and I'd take the 3g @ 100+.
Both mine are 5AT. I know my 03CL-S6M would destroy either of them in a line, but it was bolted to 280whp territory. Clutches and carseats unfortunately aren't terribly fond of one another, so ditched the S2000 and the CLS6 for a pair of auto TLs.
Lining them up, I'd take the 4G on a race to 30, the 3G on a race to 60, I think they'd be neck and neck to 100, and I'd take the 3g @ 100+.
Both mine are 5AT. I know my 03CL-S6M would destroy either of them in a line, but it was bolted to 280whp territory. Clutches and carseats unfortunately aren't terribly fond of one another, so ditched the S2000 and the CLS6 for a pair of auto TLs.
i totally disagree with everything u just said about speeds between 3g and 4g i have had 2 3G and now own a '12 shawd and the speed are completely different.take off, midway and 100+. i may not know as much as you as far a specs and everything but from pushing all 3 hard and seeing what i do to other 3g there is no way what u said is accurate...jussayin
i totally disagree with everything u just said about speeds between 3g and 4g i have had 2 3G and now own a '12 shawd and the speed are completely different.take off, midway and 100+. i may not know as much as you as far a specs and everything but from pushing all 3 hard and seeing what i do to other 3g there is no way what u said is accurate...jussayin
please clarify.
which one pulls harder?
Yeah, let's turn this into another 3g vs 4g pissing match...THAT accomplishes so much.
I own both. I drive both. I'm a professionally trained driver with more than 100 hours of track time at Mid-Ohio and Perry Park. Those are my impressions; and I speak English.
I own both. I drive both. I'm a professionally trained driver with more than 100 hours of track time at Mid-Ohio and Perry Park. Those are my impressions; and I speak English.
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wtf jus happen take it ez buddy like i said ive ALSO owned both and from the LITTLE that i know the 4G performs waayy better who give a shit about u being a pro driver never seen u on TV.people like u take themselves so serious relax it was jus a disagreement..and i also speak english smart ass
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well i own a shawd so that probably why i think it performs much better
of course a 3g fwd will beat a 4g fwd because of the power to weight ratio but please dont tell ur buddy the pro driver cause we dont know shit
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thats a short ram intake..
i dont think you can get cold air with that up and inside the motor..
do you know the difference of a CAI and just a short ram?
its kind of hard not to notice..
here is how it should look like on the motor
apprently there are dyno charts
http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/69-1210_dyno.pdf
but its off a v6 accord..
http://www.knfilters.com/news/news.aspx?ID=1976
believable?
Last edited by potmilkz; Feb 7, 2012 at 01:41 PM.
3982 lbs / 305 bhp = 13.05 lbs weight per HP (That's the SH-AWD 2012 car)
3558 lbs / 286 bhp = 12.44 lbs weight per HP (That's the 2007 Type-S)
The AWD helps down low and is just more weight to pull up high.
This is a DIS-advantage in a straight line race.
They've got their sweet spots.
http://www.midohio.com/School/Course...ormance-Course
Worth every penny. Get about 20 good hours of instructor time on the track, in whatever you want to drive, or use their cars (Always Accords or TSXs); you'll be amazed at what you don't know about driving.
3558 lbs / 286 bhp = 12.44 lbs weight per HP (That's the 2007 Type-S)
The AWD helps down low and is just more weight to pull up high.
This is a DIS-advantage in a straight line race.
They've got their sweet spots.
http://www.midohio.com/School/Course...ormance-Course
Worth every penny. Get about 20 good hours of instructor time on the track, in whatever you want to drive, or use their cars (Always Accords or TSXs); you'll be amazed at what you don't know about driving.
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No one said we weren't happy for ya. You insisted you had something no one has and you thought " Maybe the CAI intake you guys purchased isnt as good as mine? " so pretty hard to take you seriously (aside from the fact that you're a known troll) But glad you're enjoying your car.
On another note, isn't your licenses still suspended? Or that was some fable?
On another note, isn't your licenses still suspended? Or that was some fable?
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No one said we weren't happy for ya. You insisted you had something no one has and you thought " Maybe the CAI intake you guys purchased isnt as good as mine? " so pretty hard to take you seriously (aside from the fact that you're a known troll) But glad you're enjoying your car.
On another note, isn't your licenses still suspended? Or that was some fable?
On another note, isn't your licenses still suspended? Or that was some fable?
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No one said we weren't happy for ya. You insisted you had something no one has and you thought " Maybe the CAI intake you guys purchased isnt as good as mine? " so pretty hard to take you seriously (aside from the fact that you're a known troll) But glad you're enjoying your car.
On another note, isn't your licenses still suspended? Or that was some fable?
On another note, isn't your licenses still suspended? Or that was some fable?
And yes, my license is suspended, to and from work. But do you really think that's stopping me?
Still racing and picking up chicks with a suspended licenses?
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here is better to explain what a "Troll" is:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll
damit, i live in the same city as you, i really hope you dont crash into my car..
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll
damit, i live in the same city as you, i really hope you dont crash into my car..