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Old 02-01-2016, 12:14 PM
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Finnaly got my dyno tune.

My local tuner just got his AWD dyno, so I went down and finally got a tune.

Please note that the base numbers are with KTuners "tune 4" "HFPC,J-pipe, Exhaust".

Results were 20 HP, and 17 ftp across the whole power band. Air fuel ratios were really bad with the CTE icebox before the tune.
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Thanks for posting your Dyno sheet .
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Those are awesome results. Are you 6 MT or Auto? Thanks for the share!
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Originally Posted by ncxvtguy83
Those are awesome results. Are you 6 MT or Auto? Thanks for the share!
6 MT.
Tuner also said that the numbers would look better if he let it cool down a bit more between runs.

Tuner also played with moving the vtec engagement point, and anything he did made a troth in the torque curve; so he left it right where Honda set it (4700 I think).

Additionally I asked him to reduce the acceleration lag (drive-by-wire?) and he told me that in his experience it really messed with the traction control system on Honda/Acura cars, and should be left at the factory setting.

FWIW: if you are running a CTE Icebox and don't have a tune, I would suggest going back to stock.

Hope this helps anyone wondering if they should tune or not.
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My tuner played with vtec engagement as well, tried setting it so that I'd always be in vtec.... no bueno. I forget which i4 can run that way but I know of some civic drivers that have permanent vtec.

Cerb can you please list you mods? Thanks!
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So the 'base' was HFPC (XLR8), J-Pipe (XLR8), Exhaust (ATLP), Intake (CT-E) + KTuner (without tune?)

The 'after' was all the above w/ KTuner tuned?

Not bad at all if that's the case, I wonder what the actual before before is
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Originally Posted by HeartTLs
My tuner played with vtec engagement as well, tried setting it so that I'd always be in vtec.... no bueno. I forget which i4 can run that way but I know of some civic drivers that have permanent vtec.

Cerb can you please list you mods? Thanks!
My S2000 kicks in VTEC around 3200rpm IIRC. Evened out my power band tremendously.
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Originally Posted by HeartTLs
Cerb can you please list you mods? Thanks!
CTE Icebox (save your money!)
HFPCs (RV6)
J-Pipe (Can't remember the manufacturer)
High-flow 3rd cat (Can't remember the manufacturer)
ATLP resonated cat-back

Dyno was run with stock 18" tires/rims; but I put on light-weight 19" setup for the summer.
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
So the 'base' was HFPC (XLR8), J-Pipe (XLR8), Exhaust (ATLP), Intake (CT-E) + KTuner (without tune?)

The 'after' was all the above w/ KTuner tuned?

Not bad at all if that's the case, I wonder what the actual before before is
see above for mods...
Base was with mods, but on Ktuners "Tune 4" which was "HFPC, J-pipe, exhaust" I think.

Tune was done at ~4,400 ft elevation. Not sure what the inside temp of the shop was at, but it was cold outside.
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Excellent gains. More proof about the intakes for these vehicles and more feedback about exactly why I didn't move VTEC. With more and more people sharing this is going to be one very well educated vehicle platform!
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Originally Posted by CerberusKy
CTE Icebox (save your money!)
HFPCs (RV6)
J-Pipe (Can't remember the manufacturer)
High-flow 3rd cat (Can't remember the manufacturer)
ATLP resonated cat-back

Dyno was run with stock 18" tires/rims; but I put on light-weight 19" setup for the summer.
I cheated and looked at your post history and saw where you got the J-Pipe

If your HFPC are RV6 then the 3rd must be XLR8 based on your older post.

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Great gains! That's what we like to see.

If you are on the hunt for more power, try a large (3.5" or 4" CAI). I gained 2whp/6wtq over my Fujita CAI on my J30. I had the J37 TB and Intake Manifold, so I don't see why the gains would be much different. You will probably see more since you are a 3.7L.
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
I cheated and looked at your post history and saw where you got the J-Pipe

If your HFPC are RV6 then the 3rd must be XLR8 based on your older post.

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Even I was to lazy to do that!
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Originally Posted by CerberusKy
CTE Icebox (save your money!)
HFPCs (RV6)
J-Pipe (Can't remember the manufacturer)
High-flow 3rd cat (Can't remember the manufacturer)
ATLP resonated cat-back

Dyno was run with stock 18" tires/rims; but I put on light-weight 19" setup for the summer.

I don't have a dyno to prove which intake is best, but Kenny stated that air velocity/density was higher with CT-E over stock in my vehicle. Your fuel trims aren't perfect from factory and CT-E intake exacerbates that, but with tuning it should yield the most gains.
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Originally Posted by CerberusKy
CTE Icebox (save your money!)
HFPCs (RV6)
J-Pipe (Can't remember the manufacturer)
High-flow 3rd cat (Can't remember the manufacturer)
ATLP resonated cat-back

Dyno was run with stock 18" tires/rims; but I put on light-weight 19" setup for the summer.
I have read a few times with the intake BOTH the Tekeda and the CT-E either not much gains or no gain with or without a tune. And I'm all for spending $ when needed but for $500 plus for the CT-E I personally don't see the worth. I'm still on the fence with the J-PipE myself but I like the gains that the HFC/PCD. And it seems like 250whp is the base for having these mods which is pretty good. Thanks for posting the Dyno sheet. I still researching on what direction I'm trying to go.. once I get that figured out I will be posting mines as well
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Originally Posted by CerberusKy
6 MT.
Tuner also said that the numbers would look better if he let it cool down a bit more between runs.

Tuner also played with moving the vtec engagement point, and anything he did made a troth in the torque curve; so he left it right where Honda set it (4700 I think).

Additionally I asked him to reduce the acceleration lag (drive-by-wire?) and he told me that in his experience it really messed with the traction control system on Honda/Acura cars, and should be left at the factory setting.

FWIW: if you are running a CTE Icebox and don't have a tune, I would suggest going back to stock.

Hope this helps anyone wondering if they should tune or not.
Thanks for this.

Do you think, with a tune, CT-E is better?
I understand with no tune, it seems like it reduces performance But fully tuned, perhaps it's superior.
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question about the tune

May I know where did you tune your car?
what is the mileages on your car?
I have 115,000 mileages on my car, should i do the tune?
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Originally Posted by suspekt360
Thanks for this.

Do you think, with a tune, CT-E is better?
I understand with no tune, it seems like it reduces performance But fully tuned, perhaps it's superior.
I have been told by KTuner, and HeartTLs (HeartTLs know these cars pretty well) that with a tune the CTE Icebox is superior to the stock intake. But personally I have no hard results to prove it. I can tell you that after the tune my car is way more responsive and is so much more fun to drive.
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May I know where did you tune your car?
Turbo Lab in Orem Utah
what is the mileages on your car?
about 40K.
I have 115,000 mileages on my car, should i do the tune?
Very personal, and I always feel a little funny about offering this advice; as I think a lot of it depends on how much the $ means to you. If it's pocket change, definitely! If the money for mods, software and a tune is not be an easy choice than the decision "to mod or not to mod" is much more difficult.

In the end, if when I bought the car I knew what I know now, I would have just done suspension/tires/wheels, and a more aggressive muffler with quad tips (I like that look).

Personally for power mods I would either do nothing or [HFPC/PCD, J-Pipe, (maybe a tune)]. Until we have some type of forced induction the power gains are not dramatic.

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Cerb, I know a guy who did a unique mod 2yrs ago that was giving him 150awhp and a little over that in TQ. 4G AT trannies are fragile, I wouldn't do FI even if it were available.
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^^^^^^ The 4g transmission is fragile? Several of the 3g guys have been running around on 400 whp on the auto for a couple years now. I was under the impression that the 4g awd transmission was stronger??

Hey CerberusKy, I'm in Orem too, what are the chances
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Originally Posted by flexer
Hey CerberusKy, I'm in Orem too, what are the chances
I'm up by LCC. I see a lot of SHAWD TLs around, but I haven't seen any that look modified. Honk if you see me driving around (Black with quad tips).
And Joe at Turbo Lab is a good guy!
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^^^^^^ The 4g transmission is fragile? Several of the 3g guys have been running around on 400 whp on the auto for a couple years now. I was under the impression that the 4g awd transmission was stronger??

THAT's AMAZING! I'm telling you what my personal experience has been. If you search you'll also see plenty of AT 4G members having propeller shafts and torque converters replaced, sometimes more than once. The AT trans is so fragile that Acura has even taken it upon themselves to extend the powertrain warranty on 4G's to 100k/8yrs .
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Originally Posted by HeartTLs
THAT's AMAZING! I'm telling you what my personal experience has been. If you search you'll also see plenty of AT 4G members having propeller shafts and torque converters replaced, sometimes more than once. The AT trans is so fragile that Acura has even taken it upon themselves to extend the powertrain warranty on 4G's to 100k/8yrs .
I wonder if it's the same issues with the 6-speed. I know that the 3G and 2G had the weakest auto tranny back in the day. Like folks went thur 3 tranny in under 175,000mi on stock. and it has folks doing way over 400WHP on stock auto.
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Originally Posted by HeartTLs
THAT's AMAZING! I'm telling you what my personal experience has been. If you search you'll also see plenty of AT 4G members having propeller shafts and torque converters replaced, sometimes more than once. The AT trans is so fragile that Acura has even taken it upon themselves to extend the powertrain warranty on 4G's to 100k/8yrs .
Do all 4Gs regardless of when they were purchased now have 100k/8 yrs warranty??
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I believe so, though I'm sure many are beyond 100k and 09's purchased in 08' are almost outside that window.
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I own a 2010 with about 60k miles so I'm wondering if I still have the factory warranty/ if I can still purchase an extended warranty. When was this announced?
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The extension on powertrain from what I remember applies to AWD models only. Also you're well past OEM warranty window on both mileage and time. Once you're outside that window you cannot extend it. Maybe you can get an aftermarket warranty, which I do not recommend.




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