ATLP QUADS FOR SH-AWD : Guaging interest : AKA feeler thread

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Old 12-10-2010, 02:56 PM
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ATLP QUADS FOR SH-AWD : Guaging interest : AKA feeler thread

Most of you all know about the amazing ATLP exhaust for the 09+ FWD TL.



Who is interested in one for the SH-AWD? It would be pretty simple to adapt it to the SH-AWD model. We only need a limited number of people to get this kit off the ground, so who'd consider one? Copy and paste the list and add yourself.

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is this like a Cat back system? do you have any sound clips? I was thinking about doing exhaust for my SH-AWD but I just don't want the sound to be too ricey or too cheap. I was on the fence because I know its a v6 so it should produce a deeper sound but to make that investment I need to hear it

if the sound is good I would be in!
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Lets get this going guys!

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btw, anything in the works for a jpipe?
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1. Fyah tl
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any time frame on this yet? i really wanted to treat myself for xmass, and i was not too happy with the other exhausts available. i really love the tips on this and the sound.
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Add me to the list please. I'm at work and it's dificultbto do this from my phone. Definitely interested. If there is a need for a test vehicle I'll sacrifice mine for a couple weeks


Thanks FYAH for the heads up
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As I said in the thread where these were first shown ... if you build them, we will buy.
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
Add me to the list please. I'm at work and it's dificultbto do this from my phone. Definitely interested. If there is a need for a test vehicle I'll sacrifice mine for a couple weeks


Thanks FYAH for the heads up
Murky, you are added to the list and i'll let Mike @ ATLP know you're located in Cali and available to be the test vehicle.
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yes ... i added him ... thought it wudda been obvious by whom and when ...
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Originally Posted by FYAH TL
Murky, you are added to the list and i'll let Mike @ ATLP know you're located in Cali and available to be the test vehicle.
Actually, I'll be the test vehicle...unless I got booted...i've been in contact with Mike for over 4 months about this

The sound clip is posted here for a FWD version, I just don't know how to add it...but here is the YouTube link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2GxL...ayer_embedded#!

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Originally Posted by FYAH TL
Murky, you are added to the list and i'll let Mike @ ATLP know you're located in Cali and available to be the test vehicle.
Thanks, I've talked to Mike before and more recently at the socal fall meet where he told me that an AWD system wasn't gonna happen due to the lack of interest in the FWD system at the moment. But hell, if he's gonna make an AWD model I don't care who the test vehicle is just as long as it gets done.
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Forgot to add:

1. Fyah tl
2. PiMpiN wHITe Cl-S
3. jpmunoz
4. MurkeyRiversTL (added per request)
5. Six Shifter
6. jnc2000
7. FallenTSX

This is what Mike from ATLP message me on 12/01/10:

Thanks Del!

We may be working together with HeelToe soon to possibly bring something out for the exhaust a little bit sooner if all goes through.

Keep hanging in there, it will be made!

Michael Yu
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True dual please? .?
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First guys, thanks for not blowing up my inbox with PMs.

Second, Mike and I are working very close on this project but I expect that I will be the point-man on it.

As far as the design of the exhaust is concerned you can expect it to be very similar if not the same looking/sounding as the FWD kit. Power might fluctuate because of the different engine spec.


You should know that I used to be employed in a sales and later in a R&D position at Magnaflow, and we have seen that different cars like different designs. In addition a "true dual" system is not always the best way to go on v-angle engine (usually it isn't actually). We are not completely sold on the power/sound balance offered by a true dual. Be aware that this is becoming a really enticing design feature and if we don't follow it there is likely a good reason for it.
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Originally Posted by jnc2000
True dual please? .?
i think having a true dual set up is more like..."braggin rights" then it is on performance

To add...having a true dual set up on a single set up will be kind of disadvantageous because you would need to add another cat and will add some weight as well for the more material needed and the fact that our engines are transverse compared to a longitudal setup makes it a little more inefficient

Look at the S2k, most modders are going to a single exit pipe because of weight savings and inefficiency

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I'm looking at it from the standpoint that there is a true dual in the works for the RL... it shouldn't be to hard to incorporate over to the TL SH-AWD
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the factory exhaust setup almost a "true dual"? Doesn't the piping split into two after the 3rd cat? So if this is correct, does this mean your going to change the design of the exhaust? I'm no mechanic at all, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Marcus your always on the ball with getting the consumers what they want!! Kudos for taking the initiative to develop this..maybe ill buy one for my mom's tl for xmas ahaha
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Originally Posted by jnc2000
I'm looking at it from the standpoint that there is a true dual in the works for the RL... it shouldn't be to hard to incorporate over to the TL SH-AWD
But what is the benefit if it brings added weight and complexity. I'd rather have a performance gain than anything else.

I thought I read on that RL thread that there was a significant loss of low end torque due to the "true dual". I think that true duals only make sense on much larger engines than this. I don't see the point...
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I don't think you could really "loose" low end... rather you're shifting the power-band around.

Although I agree about keeping the weight down... this is still a 4k lb sedan... I think other weight reductions would come into play before thinking about exhaust weight.
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We'll be shooting to do whatever makes the most sense
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
We'll be shooting to do whatever makes the most sense
good to hear!

Now lets have Mike get some designs done!
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count me in!

hopefully it will be a tad quieter than my non-res ATLP quads on my 3G tl-s

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How many people got the ATLP quads for the base 4G? Hope the SH gets these too. I've gotten a lot of comments after I got these bazookas. Mostly "is that the new Type-S?"
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Are their any proven power gains on the SH-AWD? I will be interested once i see solid before & after numbers
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^ CT-E made an axle back, that produced something like 7hp/11tq.. a cat back will surely open up to around 12-15hp/15tq

honda is notorious for restrictive exhausts.
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
^ CT-E made an axle back, that produced something like 7hp/11tq.. a cat back will surely open up to around 12-15hp/15tq

honda is notorious for restrictive exhausts.
Not entirely true, the 2g TL exhaust was proven to be a free flowing exhaust and upgrading to an aftermarket exhaust proved no gains but was for sound only.
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Originally Posted by Roofy
Are their any proven power gains on the SH-AWD? I will be interested once i see solid before & after numbers
We'll be doing a dyno to show gains for sure.

Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
count me in!

hopefully it will be a tad quieter than my non-res ATLP quads on my 3G tl-s
I expect resonators will be an option on these exhausts...I wouldn't want it too loud either.


Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY

honda is notorious for restrictive exhausts.
This isn't really true all the time. Many Hondas do pretty well with stock exhausts. But we'll see pretty soon, won't we?
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So, is that it?

Who is ready to plop down a deposit?
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
So, is that it?

Who is ready to plop down a deposit?
i will make a deposit. what would you require?
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
So, is that it?

Who is ready to plop down a deposit?
I am.
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me 3..... how much??
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me 4. how much of a deposit would be needed? any idea on the lead time?
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
So, is that it?

Who is ready to plop down a deposit?
I'm definitely interested in this exhaust as well. I just didn't add my name to the list because most of my car mods are on hold until the winter passes through and I can only afford to do so many at one time. I think around summer time I'll be looking at exhaust. Sorry for the useless info, but hey, it's a feeler thread and I hope this system is available when it comes time. Can't wait to see/hear this when someone gets it.
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interest is definitely there.

what kinda deposit, any preliminary cost/idea? Y-pipe? semi-true dual?
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I'm ready for a deposit... But I would like more information, preliminary pictures, cost, and difference in design the the FWD, lead time etc
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I'm not ready with all the details quite yet...expect a deposit to be in the $300-400 range. As far as design details this will be divulged later. With the limited demand nature of this product, we'll be pursuing deposits prior to commencing prototype work. Deposits will also fully refundable.
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Count me in for the deposit. Where do I send it????


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