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Old 03-09-2011, 10:58 PM
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Simple Poll: 4G or 4.5G TL

Price is the same (for the purpose of this poll).

Which do you pick.

Doesn't matter if it's base or SH-AWD either.

Just aesthetics here.

What say you?
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4G all the way....just saw the '12 tonight at the local car show up on the rotating stage and it made the '11 on the floor look like the newer and more exciting model. LOL

Even the Acura salesmen there all said they fukced this revision up a bit with going too sedate and they seemed concerned....it seems the best thing that could've happened to the '09-'11 sales was this '12 redesign which for many will be too boring ....poor Acura.
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I don't expect 2012 buyers will be anymore happy listening to other Acura owners bash the looks of their car than the early 4G owners were when it debuted. You guys remember that? Got old in a hurry didn't it?

So, in that context, keep it civil and let the poll results show what they show.

Once the tit-for-tat bashing starts (if it does), the thread will get locked.
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Originally Posted by CalgaryAWDTL
4G all the way....just saw the '12 tonight at the local car show up on the rotating stage and it made the '11 on the floor look like the newer and more exciting model. LOL

Even the Acura salesmen there all said they fukced this revision up a bit with going too sedate and they seemed concerned....it seems the best thing that could've happened to the '09-'11 sales was this '12 redesign which for many will be too boring ....poor Acura.
Acura is about selling cars. They'll sell 10k more cars per year with the newer model because its "boring". I'n glad for the new model. Some cars can be too polarizing. The 4th gen was EXACTLY that.
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Gotten use to the "beak" on my 2010. Plus, the 2012 front end looks too much like my 08 TSX ....
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4G baby, 'nuff said.
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If price were no object I would pick the 4.5 simply for the 6-speed auto and advance package. I happen to like the 4g's looks better, though and bought one because price unforunately IS an object. I couldn't pass up the 6.5k discount.
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I have to see one in person before I can give my opinion on the question.
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Way to be ambivalent.............. gggggesqqqqq
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This ought to be interesting!
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4G. Only thing I like about the 4.5G would probably be the 6-speed auto. I say probably because I haven't driven one myself to tell Other than that, I'm not a big fan of the TSX grille and the extra silver trimming by the turn signals/fogs.
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I notice that the majority of anti-4.5G (the vocal ones) are current 4G owners... hmmm, interesting.
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It seems there are a lot of people that like the 4G over the 4.5G on here and even on the internet, but I just don't see it. I think the redesigned grill, darkened headlights, and new bumper are improvements. I disliked the old grill and hated the reflectors on the 4G and they addressed the issue.

I'm surprised how many people hated on the looks of the 4G at the beginning and it seems like suddenly, people are content with it, especially right when the 4.5G came out.
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Originally Posted by Mr Marco
Way to be ambivalent.............. gggggesqqqqq
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Originally Posted by Stew4HD
I notice that the majority of anti-4.5G (the vocal ones) are current 4G owners... hmmm, interesting.

I notice the majority of folks who raze current 4G owners don't own one, hmmm.
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
It seems there are a lot of people that like the 4G over the 4.5G on here and even on the internet, but I just don't see it. I think the redesigned grill, darkened headlights, and new bumper are improvements. I disliked the old grill and hated the reflectors on the 4G and they addressed the issue.

I'm surprised how many people hated on the looks of the 4G at the beginning and it seems like suddenly, people are content with it, especially right when the 4.5G came out.

...just because somethings can not be seen or held in ones grasp does not mean that it is possible...walk by faith and not by sight grasshopper
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:38 PM
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The poll "price no object", so I don't have a strong opinion if Acura can't hold the line on pricing. A big reason I went with the TL was the value proposition.
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Well,,,,,,

Originally Posted by PsychDoc
Price is the same (for the purpose of this poll).

Which do you pick.

Doesn't matter if it's base or SH-AWD either.

Just aesthetics here.

What say you?
If price was no object, not a valid question... When you are talking Acura, TL, 2012, all options and $46K one may say it is No Longer a Great deal! One will begin to look at other cars like a MDX... Only reason I got a fully loaded 2010 TL SH-AWD-Tech was the $38K price tag.. That is what VALUE is all about...:t humbsup:
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Originally Posted by compewterbleu
I notice the majority of folks who raze current 4G owners don't own one, hmmm.
^+1

Its not "Anti-4.5G". Its called an opinion.
Old 03-10-2011, 06:42 PM
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I don't mind the look of the 4G. But the "4.5G" or MMC 4G offers more of what I want.
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4G. Although, I wouldn't mind the 6 speed transmission. 4.5G looks boring, like it was made before the 4G.
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I like the 4G, but I can imagine a 4.5 with an A-Spec kit on. It's looking better
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4G, but I want 4.5G 6AT gear box , how I can get that ?
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since they didn't change any sheetmetal, it should be plausible to buy one model (4, or 4.5) then exchange the bumpers. The only trouble there is that might have changed some mounting brackets or the paint choices may be drastically different.

btw the 0-60 estimate from acura is... conservative, hopefully.

i'd be pretty disappointed if they couldn't easily get the SHAWD to get a sub 6s 0-60. Yes yes i know wavehogger or w/e his name was got 5.44s, but he appeared to be the only one. Not to say he isn't credible, but all the car mags / websites got anywhere from 6-6.7, I believe them.
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Almost dead even.

Have to say I'm surprised at this outcome. For Acura's sake I hope the general public is a bit more enthusiastic about the 4.5G.
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Ugh, I hate the practice of using decimals to differentiate MMCs. They're all 4Gs.

That being said, I prefer the 2009-11 TL. I don't like the looks of either, but the pre-MMC's styling has had some time to marinate with the public, and at least looks original. The 4G can't do subtle, but the 2012 is trying. That's where it falls off, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Aman
Ugh, I hate the practice of using decimals to differentiate MMCs. They're all 4Gs.

That being said, I prefer the 2009-11 TL. I don't like the looks of either, but the pre-MMC's styling has had some time to marinate with the public, and at least looks original. The 4G can't do subtle, but the 2012 is trying. That's where it falls off, IMO.
I agree.. the "4.5" or '12 is still the 4G with changes. From the side, the 2 models are gonna look pretty much alike.

IMO, even with the changes to ther front and back, the car is still not subtle or looking like other cars.. the roof-line, shape of the tail..etc still makes the car stand apart from the rest.
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What the fuck is 4.5G? What's the difference from 4G?
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Originally Posted by Outlaw06
What the fuck is 4.5G? What's the difference from 4G?

LMAO! They're using 4.5 to designate MMC 4G.
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Originally Posted by compewterbleu
LMAO! They're using 4.5 to designate MMC 4G.
OMG, that is funny
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Originally Posted by Outlaw06
What the fuck is 4.5G? What's the difference from 4G?
Perhaps I was being too ambitious in designating this "4.5G." Maybe"4.1G" would have been preferable. Or "4.01G?"
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Originally Posted by PsychDoc
Perhaps I was being too ambitious in designating this "4.5G." Maybe"4.1G" would have been preferable. Or "4.01G?"
4G, rev A? maybe need a "Name that model" thread I think most everyone knows what you meant by 4.5 as it is a MMC.
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Originally Posted by PsychDoc
Almost dead even.

Have to say I'm surprised at this outcome. For Acura's sake I hope the general public is a bit more enthusiastic about the 4.5G.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Not sure the 2012 redesign is going to be enough to boost sales of the 4G.
People either like the car in general or not. At this point I think the 5G is going to have to be a drastic redesign. I bet it won't be as big as it is now.
If that's the case, my wife is going to make me buy her a 5G.
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I think size will remain the same (it's already a midsize sedan) if anything, they'll try to increase interior room, make it more comfortable for the rear-middle passenger, add more features (probably match the RL in price and features) and hopefully find a way to let the rear seats fold back.

Or they can just go to that "what is missing in your TL" thread we have somewhere n just go down the list lol
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Originally Posted by jspagna1
I was thinking the exact same thing. Not sure the 2012 redesign is going to be enough to boost sales of the 4G.
People either like the car in general or not. At this point I think the 5G is going to have to be a drastic redesign. I bet it won't be as big as it is now.
If that's the case, my wife is going to make me buy her a 5G.

With the 5G Acura is really going to have to bring it! If for one thing they've split those who are loyal to the TL into 4G/4.5G factions. They have be clear with the direction of the next iteration of this model or it will go the way of the Honda Prelude.
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Originally Posted by jasonwdp10
I think size will remain the same (it's already a midsize sedan) if anything, they'll try to increase interior room, make it more comfortable for the rear-middle passenger, add more features (probably match the RL in price and features) and hopefully find a way to let the rear seats fold back.

Or they can just go to that "what is missing in your TL" thread we have somewhere n just go down the list lol
I was thinking of the direction Nissan took with the latest Maxima. Which I also looked at when I was shopping for new car.
The 03 (5G) Maxima was more appealing to my wife and I over the 04 (6G) Maxima because the size got so big that we did not like it.
Now with the latest Maxima 09 (7G) they have gone back it's Sparts Sedan roots and it's now sized between the 03 and the 04 Maxima designs. Big inprovement.
That's what I think they should or may do with the 5G TL.
If it was sized between the 3G and 4G size, I think it would be a winner along with a distictive design.
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Originally Posted by jspagna1
I was thinking of the direction Nissan took with the latest Maxima. Which I also looked at when I was shopping for new car.
The 03 (5G) Maxima was more appealing to my wife and I over the 04 (6G) Maxima because the size got so big that we did not like it.
Now with the latest Maxima 09 (7G) they have gone back it's Sparts Sedan roots and it's now sized between the 03 and the 04 Maxima designs. Big inprovement.
That's what I think they should or may do with the 5G TL.
If it was sized between the 3G and 4G size, I think it would be a winner along with a distictive design.
I went with a friend to check out the Max...the 370 headlights don't turn me on and we both weren't feeling the bland cheese slicer grille. The fluidity of that design was very noticeable, the front and rear don't match like the previous model. They hit a home run with the Altima and are desperately trying to get the Max to shine..it is better.
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
It seems there are a lot of people that like the 4G over the 4.5G on here and even on the internet, but I just don't see it. I think the redesigned grill, darkened headlights, and new bumper are improvements. I disliked the old grill and hated the reflectors on the 4G and they addressed the issue.

I'm surprised how many people hated on the looks of the 4G at the beginning and it seems like suddenly, people are content with it, especially right when the 4.5G came out.
The bulk of the folks on any forum are people who already own one - so it's no surprise that a lot of people are still voting for the 4.0G. Take the same poll a year from now when there are a lot of new owners of the 4.5G and the results will look quite a bit different. It's like asking people in a seafood restaurant if they prefer seafood over steak.


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