New TL owner observation of other TL owners.
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New TL owner observation of other TL owners.
Not sure if this is just me or if this is common with other TL owners here.
So far I have had 4 now, 3G and 4G TL drivers try to instigate races with me. Maybe its Chicago land? The now nicer weather? Really though, A stock looking 4G TL SH trying to race another (mine) stock looking 4G TL SH? Makes no sense at all. Getting kinda annoying.
I drive fast. 5-10 over wherever I'm going. Bad habit yes, but I am not launching the car. Weaving in and out like some 19year old in a Mazda 6 with a fetus shooter muffler.
Last night some clown in a white lowered 3TL-S was sitting in my blind spot and doing quick pulls over and over again next to me. I seriously just wanted to pull him out through his rear window, since that's how far back he was leaning. "All cool like"
Years of modded Lexus cars... never came across this phenomenon. Wondering if its just "my luck" or if others are seeing this too.
So far I have had 4 now, 3G and 4G TL drivers try to instigate races with me. Maybe its Chicago land? The now nicer weather? Really though, A stock looking 4G TL SH trying to race another (mine) stock looking 4G TL SH? Makes no sense at all. Getting kinda annoying.
I drive fast. 5-10 over wherever I'm going. Bad habit yes, but I am not launching the car. Weaving in and out like some 19year old in a Mazda 6 with a fetus shooter muffler.
Last night some clown in a white lowered 3TL-S was sitting in my blind spot and doing quick pulls over and over again next to me. I seriously just wanted to pull him out through his rear window, since that's how far back he was leaning. "All cool like"
Years of modded Lexus cars... never came across this phenomenon. Wondering if its just "my luck" or if others are seeing this too.
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i had a guy in a modded civic try to "race" me in the 4G SHAWD loaner i had about a month ago. i didn't even do anything to provoke him. i drove off from the light driving normally (no pedal stomping) when it turned green, he was in the other lane trying to keep up with me. i just happened to get to 40 mph faster than he did and stayed there. he kept lunging trying to start something and i kept ignoring him. i mean really?! i'm in a dealer loaner!
not sure. i never have these kind of issues in my 3G.
not sure. i never have these kind of issues in my 3G.
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I never had any issue like that in DC metro area with my Tl. However I get the racer folks all the time in my Miata. I expect it, because of all the exhaust and intake noise going on. The chrome wheels don't help either.
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I havnt ever had anyone try and race me in my TL. Whats funny is when I owned my SRT8 the rice mobiles use to always try to race me. I never would as there was no point of destroying a civic or something to waste about $5.00 in gas.
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Had a new gen GS 350 traying to race me on the bronx river pkwy, I was going from one exit to the next and I just didn't pay him any mind. He just kept accelerating his car next to mine and I looked at him like come on man grow up.
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Lol,as the weather warms up people tend to go a little crazy,i do enjoy pulling the car sometimes but have no intrest in racing anyone, most of the time i just cruise,listen to music and chill since i like to arrive at my destination in a good mood.
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The first or second week I owned my car a guy in a TLS with a modded exhaust pulled up alongside me on the freeway trying to initiate something. I just waved at him and he moved along.
I have encountered the occasional BMW or Audi owner trying to play games. It really pissed off an A6 guy recently when I dropped him on the freeway cloverleaf. When he finally got his car up to speed he roared around me doing about 80+ then zipped in front of me. I just loafed along at 65.
I have encountered the occasional BMW or Audi owner trying to play games. It really pissed off an A6 guy recently when I dropped him on the freeway cloverleaf. When he finally got his car up to speed he roared around me doing about 80+ then zipped in front of me. I just loafed along at 65.
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Damn aggressive TL owners......
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A lot of the 3G's are in the hands of younger kids now, so I'm guessing you'll see a lot of that from at least that demographic.
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I have a 3G TL and I'm almost 47, so I pretty much drive like an old man (maybe because I am one).
However, I get the occasional types who drive Infinitis (especially those) or older Altimas or Camrys who like to pull stunts like cutting in front of me on the highway without signaling (although they do for everyone else) or trying to pass me up in heavy urban traffic just to... pass me up. Whatever.
The Infiniti drivers are the worst, IMO. However, what they're trying to prove, I have no idea. I'm perfectly happy with my Acura and have nothing to prove to anyone. But I guess clowns like these are all over the place.
However, I get the occasional types who drive Infinitis (especially those) or older Altimas or Camrys who like to pull stunts like cutting in front of me on the highway without signaling (although they do for everyone else) or trying to pass me up in heavy urban traffic just to... pass me up. Whatever.
The Infiniti drivers are the worst, IMO. However, what they're trying to prove, I have no idea. I'm perfectly happy with my Acura and have nothing to prove to anyone. But I guess clowns like these are all over the place.
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Since you mentioned infiniti drivers are the worst, I'll say it takes all types to do stupid boneheaded stunts that put I other drivers at risk. I drive like an old fart, but young drivers with in an ellps, including Acuras seem to want to prove something.
The other day a lowered very loud older rsx(?) cut me off. The roads near work are horrible, this car was so low it kept bottoming out at 60 and making sparks when the suspension hit the road. Car finally slowed down to 40 in the left lane in a 55 zone. So I zipped around it.
The other day a lowered very loud older rsx(?) cut me off. The roads near work are horrible, this car was so low it kept bottoming out at 60 and making sparks when the suspension hit the road. Car finally slowed down to 40 in the left lane in a 55 zone. So I zipped around it.
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Only 1 encounter here in Los Angeles. A guy in a TL 3.5 non-tech was swerving in and out of traffic. He heard my cut outs and decided I was tryingto out maneuver him. He had new plates and was in his late 20's, probably learning about his new car. Most of the time out here I see either young cute girls driving TL's or the more mature crowd.
I do however see older Honda and Acura models try to provoke races, more forego than fun, but sometimes that too. But maybe I can shed some light on same brand "ego". Cars are a representation in a way, but perceived by people differently. When I had my 05' S4 I would get all kinds of Audi's from A3's to Q7's try to "pull on me" when I was approaching their cars. I have no explanation for this but I tend to drive faster than the limit.
I do however see older Honda and Acura models try to provoke races, more forego than fun, but sometimes that too. But maybe I can shed some light on same brand "ego". Cars are a representation in a way, but perceived by people differently. When I had my 05' S4 I would get all kinds of Audi's from A3's to Q7's try to "pull on me" when I was approaching their cars. I have no explanation for this but I tend to drive faster than the limit.
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Exhaust on the silver 4G got a lot of negative attention, usually on local roads. Normally I wouldn't think twice about clowning an erratic cab driver in a Camry, towncar, the occasional "I think my 328i is fast" motorist, or anyone else for that matter from light to light. On highways I couldn't be bothered and ignored whoever tried to line up with me except for some chic in a genesis coupe driving like an idiot, weaving in an out of traffic. For all her troubles and effort to get past traffic she couldn't get further than me staying in the left lane at a consistent pace going 60. Eventually traffic opened up I saw her intentions to speed up, narrowing cut me off from the middle to the left lane so I floored it... God do I miss that sound, got well over a 100, leaving her seeing taillights. I drop back down to 60 a few seconds later and she passed me a short while later she passed me a more humble driver, going a respectable 65 hahaha.
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I have a 3G TL and I'm almost 47, so I pretty much drive like an old man (maybe because I am one).
However, I get the occasional types who drive Infinitis (especially those) or older Altimas or Camrys who like to pull stunts like cutting in front of me on the highway without signaling (although they do for everyone else) or trying to pass me up in heavy urban traffic just to... pass me up. Whatever.
The Infiniti drivers are the worst, IMO. However, what they're trying to prove, I have no idea. I'm perfectly happy with my Acura and have nothing to prove to anyone. But I guess clowns like these are all over the place.
However, I get the occasional types who drive Infinitis (especially those) or older Altimas or Camrys who like to pull stunts like cutting in front of me on the highway without signaling (although they do for everyone else) or trying to pass me up in heavy urban traffic just to... pass me up. Whatever.
The Infiniti drivers are the worst, IMO. However, what they're trying to prove, I have no idea. I'm perfectly happy with my Acura and have nothing to prove to anyone. But I guess clowns like these are all over the place.
I've noticed idiots come in all shapes and cars.
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Exhaust on the silver 4G got a lot of negative attention, usually on local roads. Normally I wouldn't think twice about clowning an erratic cab driver in a Camry, towncar, the occasional "I think my 328i is fast" motorist, or anyone else for that matter from light to light. On highways I couldn't be bothered and ignored whoever tried to line up with me except for some chic in a genesis coupe driving like an idiot, weaving in an out of traffic. For all her troubles and effort to get past traffic she couldn't get further than me staying in the left lane at a consistent pace going 60. Eventually traffic opened up I saw her intentions to speed up, narrowing cut me off from the middle to the left lane so I floored it... God do I miss that sound, got well over a 100, leaving her seeing taillights. I drop back down to 60 a few seconds later and she passed me a short while later she passed me a more humble driver, going a respectable 65 hahaha.
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The first or second week I owned my car a guy in a TLS with a modded exhaust pulled up alongside me on the freeway trying to initiate something. I just waved at him and he moved along.
I have encountered the occasional BMW or Audi owner trying to play games. It really pissed off an A6 guy recently when I dropped him on the freeway cloverleaf. When he finally got his car up to speed he roared around me doing about 80+ then zipped in front of me. I just loafed along at 65.
I have encountered the occasional BMW or Audi owner trying to play games. It really pissed off an A6 guy recently when I dropped him on the freeway cloverleaf. When he finally got his car up to speed he roared around me doing about 80+ then zipped in front of me. I just loafed along at 65.
Only problems I have had have been with BMW drivers playing games like they want to race me. Maybe it was the same person now that I think about it!
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I get the same feeling when I see these types.
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Tonight in Milwaukee some TL-S clown on the highway shot from the far left to get behind me then only to pass me again on the left. Not sure what was going through his head.
If you wanted me to acknowledge you have a TL-S. I did. Yay you. You didn't look like a total tool at all...
If you wanted me to acknowledge you have a TL-S. I did. Yay you. You didn't look like a total tool at all...
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Never IIRC by a TL when I had the TL. Once by a TL against the 335is. Remember that because I had come off break-in a week earlier. Once by a 4G lowered & blacked out with a big label on his windshield.
That is a spread of about 8 years. Its interesting because when the 3G was in production it was Acura Central here so you would have thought there would be a bit of competition.
That is a spread of about 8 years. Its interesting because when the 3G was in production it was Acura Central here so you would have thought there would be a bit of competition.
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Their stealth cars/suv's aren't very stealthy to the trained eye. Sneakiest ride they have are yellow cabs; although I have seen undercovers in black 4G TL's, but not necessarily patrolling an area. I've been pulled over a few times for exhaust noise and/or tints but not for speeding. I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in 5 years and aim to keep the streak going.
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I've noticed a rather annoying amount of 3G and early 4G TL's in my community the past few weeks. Figured a bunch most be coming off lease or they're running some great deals, but most look to be late teens, early 20's drivers, doing stupid things. I watched one guy pass on the right the other day on a gravel shoulder at probably 30mph or better, can only imagine the body damage he caused himself and the rocks he'll have rattling in his wheels for the next week.
For the better part of a year the only 4G TL I ran into besides my own was a FWD White driven by an attractive woman I'd guess in her 30's. We wave when we pass each other. I enjoy being easy to pick out, I have 30% tint, painted front grill and roof spoiler
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I've noticed a rather annoying amount of 3G and early 4G TL's in my community the past few weeks. Figured a bunch most be coming off lease or they're running some great deals, but most look to be late teens, early 20's drivers, doing stupid things. I watched one guy pass on the right the other day on a gravel shoulder at probably 30mph or better, can only imagine the body damage he caused himself and the rocks he'll have rattling in his wheels for the next week.
For the better part of a year the only 4G TL I ran into besides my own was a FWD White driven by an attractive woman I'd guess in her 30's. We wave when we pass each other. I enjoy being easy to pick out, I have 30% tint, painted front grill and roof spoiler
I've noticed a rather annoying amount of 3G and early 4G TL's in my community the past few weeks. Figured a bunch most be coming off lease or they're running some great deals, but most look to be late teens, early 20's drivers, doing stupid things. I watched one guy pass on the right the other day on a gravel shoulder at probably 30mph or better, can only imagine the body damage he caused himself and the rocks he'll have rattling in his wheels for the next week.
For the better part of a year the only 4G TL I ran into besides my own was a FWD White driven by an attractive woman I'd guess in her 30's. We wave when we pass each other. I enjoy being easy to pick out, I have 30% tint, painted front grill and roof spoiler
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I stay far away from those clowns that cut in and out of traffic, and even worse those uber fast motorcycles that drive in the medians or anywhere else putting everyones life in jeopardy.
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Among cars that can move out the 335 has moved well into the 2nd/3rd hand demographic. Lots of teens just learning to drive that actually think they can drive better than anyone else.....bad mix with a lot of power.
The demo list & "kill" posts at E90post is getting scary.
The demo list & "kill" posts at E90post is getting scary.
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Among cars that can move out the 335 has moved well into the 2nd/3rd hand demographic. Lots of teens just learning to drive that actually think they can drive better than anyone else.....bad mix with a lot of power.
The demo list & "kill" posts at E90post is getting scary.
The demo list & "kill" posts at E90post is getting scary.
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Believe it or not I can't remember the last time I had another TL owner 3G or 4G try to race me in any of my cars.
In my experience some of the worst offenders are the Civic Si, Mustang, Charger, Jeep SRT8 and the occasional kid in a 3 series. And let’s not forget the Minivan Mom aka Stoplight Warrior..
But the absolute worst (and I don’t mean to offend anyone) are the Maxima and Altima drivers. Not all, but 85% of the one's I come across are super aggressive fools.
They antagonize, try pull you from lights, tailgate and even in moderate to heavy traffic on the highway they are moving in and out cutting people off.
It could be a 4 or 6 cylinder, guy or girl driving, these people drive like lunatics. i have also noticed that it doesn't matter if the car is clean with mods or just a beater they all drive the same way.
Forget my TL, these fools even try to get me to run when I’m in my CTS-V, I mean seriously they must have rocks in their heads.
In my experience some of the worst offenders are the Civic Si, Mustang, Charger, Jeep SRT8 and the occasional kid in a 3 series. And let’s not forget the Minivan Mom aka Stoplight Warrior..
But the absolute worst (and I don’t mean to offend anyone) are the Maxima and Altima drivers. Not all, but 85% of the one's I come across are super aggressive fools.
They antagonize, try pull you from lights, tailgate and even in moderate to heavy traffic on the highway they are moving in and out cutting people off.
It could be a 4 or 6 cylinder, guy or girl driving, these people drive like lunatics. i have also noticed that it doesn't matter if the car is clean with mods or just a beater they all drive the same way.
Forget my TL, these fools even try to get me to run when I’m in my CTS-V, I mean seriously they must have rocks in their heads.
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That being said we put Chris through the BMW 2 day driving school at the Performance Center in SC last year. He will get a refresher when we pick up the 135is later this week.
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Agree, We got the Xterra for my grandson & will get a Pilot for my granddaughter this summer. Both are inside the family buys.
That being said we put Chris through the BMW 2 day driving school at the Performance Center in SC last year. He will get a refresher when we pick up the 135is later this week.
That being said we put Chris through the BMW 2 day driving school at the Performance Center in SC last year. He will get a refresher when we pick up the 135is later this week.
Driving school is a bonus if one can swing it. I would even go so far as say that performance school should be mandated, or at least serve as potential credit or discount on auto insurance.
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Only once has another car tried to drag me since getting the TL 2 years ago. It was some kid in a 3series BMW. I slowly accelerated to the speed limit, and then he slowed down, matched me, and kept surging ahead trying to get me to race. I kept cruising at 35 and he started honking and pointing at me and the road. What an idiot, I started laughing at him and he finally gave up.
I do see a lot of Subaru WRX owners gun it from the line and then cut me off, but they never try to drag, they just try to pass everyone and weave.
Things were totally different when I had the S2K. People tried to drag race me almost every time I was at the front of a red. They ranged from Porches all the way to 45 year old pick up trucks. I still never participated, I don't understand why people would want to drag on a city street and risk getting a very expensive ticket, wrecking their car, or injuring someone. Yes, its fun to accelerate fast, but to try and race, not worth the risk. We do have a legal drag strip where you can pay a fee and race legally.
I do see a lot of Subaru WRX owners gun it from the line and then cut me off, but they never try to drag, they just try to pass everyone and weave.
Things were totally different when I had the S2K. People tried to drag race me almost every time I was at the front of a red. They ranged from Porches all the way to 45 year old pick up trucks. I still never participated, I don't understand why people would want to drag on a city street and risk getting a very expensive ticket, wrecking their car, or injuring someone. Yes, its fun to accelerate fast, but to try and race, not worth the risk. We do have a legal drag strip where you can pay a fee and race legally.
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I would have to agree that more young people are buying TLs now due to their affordability. Granted I am young too but I never drive like a "kid". In my 3g I always got the occasional civic or Integra trying to race but I never paid any mind to it. Its weird now that I have an S4 no trys to race. If I do its a younger person in a 328i or C300, I don't even bother wasting my gas and stooping to their level. But then again I never really drive fast, the only time I do is through winding roads because this car handles like no other.
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Well it wasn't a TL, but on friday I was on the freeway going a solid 80 or so in the carpool lane with a few car lengths between me and the next guy in front of me, when suddenly this guy in a BMW starts riding my ass like a death row inmate, flashing his brights all aggro-like. He wasn't backing off and I was already well over the speed limit as it was, so I ended up gradually slowing down to about 45-50ish before he finally got the hint and put some space between us.
Generally I don't just hang around in the fast lane going obnoxiously slow, but this guy was just begging to be trolled. The dumb part was that there was no shortage of passing space in the adjacent lanes, very little traffic, and he seemed to rage the hardest when he had ample opportunity to just pick another lane.
Generally I don't just hang around in the fast lane going obnoxiously slow, but this guy was just begging to be trolled. The dumb part was that there was no shortage of passing space in the adjacent lanes, very little traffic, and he seemed to rage the hardest when he had ample opportunity to just pick another lane.
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If you were in the fast lane & there was room in the other lanes why didn't you just move over & let him by?
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OMG so true!!!
I had a 6MT Grand Sport before I got the CTS-V and there was never a time when I had it out that someone didn’t tailgate me.
It didn’t matter, from cars to pick-up trucks, to minivans there was always someone on my a$$ or wanting to race.
It was impossible to take a calm cruise without some idiot egging you on. I assume you've experienced the same?
BTW I see your avatar pic is an LS7 so I assume you have a Z06, beautiful car…
I had a 6MT Grand Sport before I got the CTS-V and there was never a time when I had it out that someone didn’t tailgate me.
It didn’t matter, from cars to pick-up trucks, to minivans there was always someone on my a$$ or wanting to race.
It was impossible to take a calm cruise without some idiot egging you on. I assume you've experienced the same?
BTW I see your avatar pic is an LS7 so I assume you have a Z06, beautiful car…
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That was the most expensive adventure in my car ownership EVER. The POS kept breaking down and I could foresee another $3000 worth of repairs/upgrades in the future. So I traded it on a Mazdaspeed 6, that NEVER needed anything more than filters and fluids.
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