"Market Adjustment" for 2012 TL?
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"Market Adjustment" for 2012 TL?
My local Acura dealer has a $1,895 "market adjustment" scribbled by pen on a paper taped to all new 2012 TLs (apart from the usual MSRP sticker which includes the specs). This fee is in addition to the few hundred here and there they want for having added splash guards and other accessories to these cars (also written on the same piece of paper).
What in the world is a "market adjustment"?
What in the world is a "market adjustment"?
#3
Drifting
Ripoff! Market adjustment for what?
#4
Drifting
My local Acura dealer has a $1,895 "market adjustment" scribbled by pen on a paper taped to all new 2012 TLs (apart from the usual MSRP sticker which includes the specs). This fee is in addition to the few hundred here and there they want for having added splash guards and other accessories to these cars (also written on the same piece of paper).
What in the world is a "market adjustment"?
What in the world is a "market adjustment"?
The market adjustment should be negative, meaning that they should give you discounts instead.
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Market Adjustment = buy the 2011's first or pay a premium for the 2012's.
It's not unusual for dealers to add a "market adjustment" above MSRP to highly desirable cars. For instance, special issue versions of desirable automobiles.
I believe there may be legal issues with regard to a dealer adding cost for dealer installed options (rust proctection, "First Place Finish" detailing, splash guards, etc) IF they require you to buy them. That is that there are no similar cars available with out those dealer added options.
It's called "bundling" and it's against the law. There may be some particular loop-holes that the dealer is exploiting, but if you're shopping, it's worth looking into.
Like PB said, walk up to them and do this:
It's not unusual for dealers to add a "market adjustment" above MSRP to highly desirable cars. For instance, special issue versions of desirable automobiles.
I believe there may be legal issues with regard to a dealer adding cost for dealer installed options (rust proctection, "First Place Finish" detailing, splash guards, etc) IF they require you to buy them. That is that there are no similar cars available with out those dealer added options.
It's called "bundling" and it's against the law. There may be some particular loop-holes that the dealer is exploiting, but if you're shopping, it's worth looking into.
Like PB said, walk up to them and do this:
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#6
market adjustment is slang for "please do not shop here, we do not want your business"
#7
Drifting
Yes this will happen with new model Hondas. How about getting an internet quote instead and see how a bunch of dealers work instead? With a firm offer you can always go to this dealer if it's your preference and show them what they can do with a market adjustment.
I remember 3K adjustments on 10K Preludes in 1985 so a 2K adjustment for a 40kish car is not too extreme in this perspective. I wound up buying a Prelude 200 miles away to have the honor of paying MSRP list for- boy those were the days.
I remember 3K adjustments on 10K Preludes in 1985 so a 2K adjustment for a 40kish car is not too extreme in this perspective. I wound up buying a Prelude 200 miles away to have the honor of paying MSRP list for- boy those were the days.
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Selling Hondas were like shooting fish in a barrel back in the '80s.... My dad's buddys who were salesmen were pulling in over six figures, same goes with Toyotas back then.
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Acura of Seattle.
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#10
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Tons of dealers will sell at msrp or below. Hit up the internet departments...
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very typical for dealers to add for "HOT" vehicles...just know, right now your probable going to pay pretty close to msrp, and the market adjustment is just another obstical....if you have to have the lastest greatest, then you are already used to paying top dollar for stuff, so why bitch about this....
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So the current euphemism is "Market Adjustment"?
When I bought a Toyota Tercel during the '80s when Japanese small cars became in hot demand, the term on the dealer-added sticker was "ADM" (additional dealer markup) and at some dealers the even bolder "ADF" (additional dealer profit)! At least the term was honest about which way the price was going. Not like the namby-pamby Market Adjustment of today.
When I bought a Toyota Tercel during the '80s when Japanese small cars became in hot demand, the term on the dealer-added sticker was "ADM" (additional dealer markup) and at some dealers the even bolder "ADF" (additional dealer profit)! At least the term was honest about which way the price was going. Not like the namby-pamby Market Adjustment of today.
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6G TLX-S
Due to the Japanese earthquake disruption, those North American Honda factories, which are fortunate enough to stay open, are running at a much reduced output.
As a result, there isn't enough new TL's to go around among all Acura dealerships. "Market adjustment" is just some fancy words used by your scumbag dealership meaning "this is what I'll rip you off, if you must buy this car today".
As a result, there isn't enough new TL's to go around among all Acura dealerships. "Market adjustment" is just some fancy words used by your scumbag dealership meaning "this is what I'll rip you off, if you must buy this car today".
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Japan, huh? Aren't most of the TL's parts made elsewhere, and manufactured in Ohio?
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Due to the Japanese earthquake disruption, those North American Honda factories, which are fortunate enough to stay open, are running at a much reduced output.
As a result, there isn't enough new TL's to go around among all Acura dealerships. "Market adjustment" is just some fancy words used by your scumbag dealership meaning "this is what I'll rip you off, if you must buy this car today".
As a result, there isn't enough new TL's to go around among all Acura dealerships. "Market adjustment" is just some fancy words used by your scumbag dealership meaning "this is what I'll rip you off, if you must buy this car today".
the only car that is affected is the TSX, and an suv...i forgot which one comes from japan.
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6G TLX-S
Please read post#18 in :
https://acurazine.com/forums/automotive-news-6/honda-nissan-toyota-production-halted-plants-%2A%2Aeffect-thai-floods-page-1-%2A%2A-811280/
#24
Sounds like my local Infiniti dealer. They wanted 3k+ "market adjustment", 2k for paint protection and 350 for wheel locks. Over 50k out the door for one the 40 G's they had sitting on the lot collecting dust.
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#25
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Last time I ran into a "Market Adjustment" was when Ford introduced the new 2005 Thunderbird. Right there on the window sticker, "Market Adjustment - $10,000". I laughed at the guy!
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Yep. Market adjustment is common when there's a desireable car released (maybe not a Ford Thunderbird...). When the C6 Z06 was released in late 05, some dealers were selling them for $100,000. When the car was really $72,000...
#29
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I recently bought my 2012 TL and used the Costco auto-program. It called for 500 over invoice but the dealer also said there was an additional 300 for "location adjustment." I"m assuming this is the same as "regional adjustment" as stated by edmunds.com.
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#33
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I paid $39,500 for my 2012 Tech on March 19th and got only $22k for my 2008 Tech in cherry condx. with only 8800 miles on it. The deal I got is what the market would bear at the time. CarMax bid $25k for my trade, but to take their offer meant sacrificing a $1375 tax credit, so the actual difference was $1625, not $3k. Ok, so I pissed away $1625. I've lost more than that in 1 day in the stock market.
#34
Drifting
I was told by the local Calgary dealership that they would not have any more TL coming in for months. They were going to just be selling the RDX and MDX. Mind you, they probably would still be fine as both the RDX and MDX are just EVERYWHERE here in Calgary. And for a good reason too - the weather here!
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I shopped around using Costco and Carsdirect before I bought my 2010 shawd tech. I'd say Carsdirect is by far cheaper than Costco, and it's also no haggle pricing. I ended up taking the Carsdirect pricing to the local dealer and they beat it by $600. It's a totally different market from back in September when I bought my 2010. I wouldn't expect any sort of discounts on the 2012 for several months with the Japanese production cuts coming from the tsunami.
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My local Acura dealer has a $1,895 "market adjustment" scribbled by pen on a paper taped to all new 2012 TLs (apart from the usual MSRP sticker which includes the specs). This fee is in addition to the few hundred here and there they want for having added splash guards and other accessories to these cars (also written on the same piece of paper).
What in the world is a "market adjustment"?
What in the world is a "market adjustment"?
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#39
Drifting
Wow! You must have the best deal for a 2012 Advance! Is it graphite or black? I see that you listed it as graphite in one signature and then black in the other. Would love to see some photos!