JD23

I guarantee you the dealership didn't consider the car brand new when it was being traded in. IMO, this dealerships are not offering you a fair deal. I know you want the TL, but maybe you should expand your search to some competitors and price those as well (G37, A4, etc.)

SlipperyPete

AcuraGoddess, are you trading something in? If not, I think you need to take the advice already offered and look outside of AZ. $39,000 for what is essentially a used car is absolutely ridiculous when others are paying $37,000 to $37,500 for brand new. Take some time this afternoon to email a couple dealerships outside your area just to see what kind of offers you can get. You can always take these back to your local dealer and see if that will help persuade them to move on their price. Otherwise take a couple hundred bucks, book a flight and grab a cab to the airport. The dealership that is selling you the car will be more then happy to pick you up and get you on your way in your brand new car. Enjoy the drive home and the couple extra grand in your pocket.

AcuraGoddess

It's techincally a new car with 1500 miles never been titled etc what now? They are selling it new

JD23

^^^
It sounds more like a demo than a new car. I would try to tell them that it is a demo and should be discounted accordingly.

AcuraGoddess

okay.. well heres the deal.. I got the car last night.., I had my second thoughts plus they wont be able to approve me unless I have my other car sold.. so I m just gonna bring it back to them.. i guess

AcuraGoddess

so what would you pay for the one with 1500 miles???? anyways

SlipperyPete

They can put whatever technical term they want on it, the fact is someone used it as their daily driver for a month, it's a used car. If you want to call it a demo that's fine but either way, it's still used in my opinion. And what to do now, stop fixating on this dealership/car and look else where. They have obviously seen you coming and know you're going to pay whatever they ask and hit you up for countless add-ons in the financing process.

AcuraGoddess

okay Im bringing the car back.. so MAX what should I pay for a 09 tl sh awd

PsychDoc

I mean we're trying to be helpful. How many people have already told you to expand your search and do it all by email.
Let's see if we can make this as clear as day: YOU CAN GET THIS CAR FOR ~$37,750 BEFORE TAXES AND NUISANCE FEES!!!

Which part of this don't you get???

AcuraGoddess

where do i do the email ??

PsychDoc

You're kidding, right???
Go to Acura.com, hit "find a dealer," put in your zip code, expand search area to 300 miles and hit "enter."

Sheesh!!!

ggesq

iTrader: (1)

^ relax. breathe.

AcuraGoddess

i called CA and they said $37,600 + fees

PsychDoc

NOW YOU GOT IT!!!!!

See?

With a little negotiating you can probably get them down to $37,250 which will pay for your one way plane ticket.

See, that wasn't so hard, was it?

docboy

Which dealer?

AcuraGoddess

they said maybe they can do $37,300 !!! wohoo ...he is going to talk to the boss!! i think thats a good deal!!

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Sounds like one...Blackura got that deal on his because of a hook up and he's bought a bunch of acura's at the dealership and this price doesn't sound too far off.

Good luck and I'll cross my fingers!

PsychDoc

Just a couple of things.

• Be sure that price includes destination.
• Get them to spell out exactly what any other fees apply.
• When you have a deal, have them email it to you in writing with every cost spelled out in detail before you go out there to pick it up.
• Ask them to pick you up at the airport..they may be willing to do this as a courtesy.

Isn't this fun?

Now do you see what everyone was saying about that other shitbag who was trying to sell you a used car for $2000 more than you could get a brand new one for?

Have a ball on the drive home!!!

SlipperyPete

This is sounding much better now, just please follow what Doc said above before flying out there. Also, you can take this email/fax deal to your local dealer and see if they will at the very least match it. If it were me I would make them throw in some extras at that cost just for making you do the extra leg work. And whatever you do, don't let them say "We'll match it + 500 that you'd pay in airfare and gas to go pick that one up." The fact is they had a chance to make this deal to start with and instead tried to take advantage. Give the other dealership your business if AZ isn't willing to throw something in now. Congrats and keep us updated…

Sphyrna

Sounds like you're finally starting to get somewhere by expanding your search beyond AZ. Good luck!! Just think how nice it'll be to drive it back!

AcuraGoddess

thanks again for everyones help.. I will post pics and update you all once I get my car.

Blazing GT

dayum you getting nailed for fees!!
come to my dealer i have a better price..
38,188
710 destination
45 doc fee
+ tax
plus DMV 250ish

AcuraGoddess

the doc fee is only $50 i was surprised .. im getting a really good deal..

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

according to the post above that one...50 is about right for a fair doc fee.

What color did you opt for finally. My heart melts for Mayan Bronze.

PsychDoc

My wife and I loved the Mayan Bronze initially too. The more we looked at it though, the more it just looked plain ol' brown.

So we went with the Palladium with the taupe interior. Great color combo.

steig

There is a 2,000 $ marketing support on the 2009 Acura TL. At least in my area, the marketing support may be different depending upon the area. I bought a 2009 TL w/Tech FWD in May 2009 for 33,999 which included the 2,000.
The car is great, I traded in a 2006 Acura TL which was a very good car, but no comparison to the 2009 TL.
The 2,000 incentive is good information to have when you go to the dealer, they may or may not mention this.

AcuraGoddess

Well I am going to CA tomorrow to pick up my new car.. $37,300 +fees
I am in AZ so it's not to far away I am really excited.
I tried getting my local dealership to match the price but they were like theres no way they can sell it for that much, thats how much we paid for the car blah blah.. and he says I will have to pay sales tax in AZ as well I said no if I am buying the car in CA I will pay their sales tax and pay AZ for titiling fees and registration etc.. I hate how people try to lie to you to get your money grr..But I feel alot better now since I know I am getting a good deal and best of all I got the color interior I really wanted EBONY with White Diamond exterior.. I will post pics of her after I get her home safely.. and once again thanks for all your kind advice and help..

SlipperyPete

I don't live in AZ but I'm pretty sure the dealer is correct on the tax thing. You will pay AZ state taxes and licensing fee when you register the vehicle. But you do not pay CA taxes on top of this. I buy my vehicles from out of state all the time and this is how it works in NE.

AcuraGoddess

well I am paying $37,300 + fees so I am only paying $37,300? is what your saying? then when I register my car in AZ i will pay sales tax there?

SlipperyPete

Correct, tax, title and license should be paid in the state the vehicle is registered in.

TeKNiC3

In order to avoid paying CA sales tax, you'll need to have the car shipped/trucked back to Arizona. You won't be able to just hope in and drive it back. Unless you worked out something with the dealership.

Might want to confirm before flying out there.

nj2pa2nc

wouldn't the dealer in Ca place an in-transit temporary paper plate on the car so it can be driven back to the resident's state. They then have so many days to get the car properly registered and then they pay the states tax and registration fees. I live in NC, bought my car in PA, drove it home. It had a thirty day in-transit temporary paper plate. I did not pay Pa sales tax.

AcuraGoddess

Well I was told from the Sales Associate in CA that I am paying CA sales tax because I am driving the car home, and all I pay is my licensing and title fee when i get to az etc .. and I have to pay $30 in CA to get a temporary plate to drive back home until i register it

AcuraGoddess

also he gave me an example its like I went on vacation to CA and bought a T-shirt I would pay their sales tax and when I got home I wouldnt pay any tax or pay only AZ sales tax.. etc

docboy

Hmm... not sure that makes sense to me.

I live in Washington state. So I could then buy a car in Oregon (no sales tax in OR), save on the 9% WA sales tax, and drive it back home, right? Nope, not unless I want to subject myself to tax evasion.

Taxes are usually assessed in the state where the car is initially registered. So if a Californian purchases a car in Oregon, he or she will have to pay sales tax when registering the car in their home state. In your case, you should not be paying the sales tax of CA, but rather AZ.

Buying a car and t-shirt are two very different purchasing scenarios. You might want to check with the AZ Dept of Licensing.

winstrolvtec

I would just pay the AZ tax even if it is a little more, sounds sneaky and I dont know the whole extent of how this works but at least I would avoid possibly getting screwed over and having to pay twice.

People have had problems then getting their car registered in their residing state, others say they got credited for what they paid out of state, so no matter what you will probably pay the amount of the AZ tax in one way or another. State and county laws may vary.

BigKat103

Some states have a reciprocating sales tax arrangement with other states. When I bought my car in OH I had the option of paying sales tax in OH or just do it when I registered my car in PA (I chose the latter). If you have the option, just pay it when you get home and register it in AZ. That will take some time as they will need to send you the title first so a few more weeks of the money in your account. YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY SALES TAX IN CA!!!! You should call AAA in your area to find out the details. I realize CA is it's own country to some degree, but the rules of sales tax applies to where you live.

PsychDoc

If it's anything like the purchase of jewelry or high end art, you have to have it delivered to your state if you buy it in another state in order to dodge that state's sales tax. If you take posession of it in the state in which it's purchased, you're bound to pay the sales tax of that state. Many people have been prosecuted for tax fraud for having very expensive items purchased in NY (for example) shipped to some P.O Box in NJ just to avoid NY sales tax.

So tread very carefully on this one. I'd call the Attny. General's office of the state you plan on purchasing the vehicle in and explain the situation and ask them for guidance. then I'd call the Attny. General's office in my home state and ask the same questions.

AcuraGoddess

I was told that if I take delivery of my car I pay their sales tax but if I was to have my car shipped to me I pay my sales tax in az.. matters if I drove the car off the lot or had the car shipped to me.

I am on my laptop while my fiance' is driving my new TL so far everything is great and I love the car nothing like the new car smell.
I will post pics up soon..

218TL

Nope, you pay your states sales tax. Similar scenario here. I bought my car in Virginia and had to pay the sales tax in my home state (NY), and you pay that tax when you register the car. Temporary transfer tags should be given to you in order to get back to Arizona.