moych1

is there a way to up the speed governor on a 2010 sh awd 6mt?

gibbyisgibby

According to this thread its almost impossible.

https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-295/4g-tl-speed-governor-787837/

cloud7

This is unfortunate... for those people that have facilities near them that they can test the true top speeds of their cars.

eazy

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theres a governor for MT's? I thought only AT's were able to be governed

wcoy

I've seen 137 in mine and I thought the governor kicked in at 130. The 137 run was in 5th too. I know speedometers can be a bit off though. I can only get up to about 121 on Nelson Ledges road course so I cannot truly test it.

Pete2010

The top speed on the 6MT is about 150 mph - it's higher than the AT version. I highly doubt anywhere in the US where you will have enough room to legally get to that speed. I'm happy to be proven wrong - so post vids!

wcoy

Wow I didn't know that, I was wondering why I didn't feel the governor kick in. If I can get on a closed course with the GoPro I will post a video. It has plenty left in 6th at 137, about redline in 5th at 137.

BEAR-AvHistory

There are airport runs all around the country especially in the summer, usually 1/2 or 1 mile runs. IIRC the next ones are in FLA & TX. They just finished one in CA the weekend before last. Some road racing tracks with long straights also offer these runs.

Just a case of searching them out on the net.

A stock 305hp TL might be good for 130mph on a 1/2 mile so the limiter would not need to be disabled unless it was a mile run. Cars with 430+whp are running about 155mph with a 40 to 50mph rolling start in the 1/2 mile. The big boys can reach 200mph in the mile.

wcoy

Well at least we know it can go 132, I was seeing about 135-137 on the speedo during this. It would not go any faster; the governor was kicking in at 4600rpm in 6th. It had more to go for sure but the governor was holding me back. Very clear open road with almost nobody around, plane got me, which my V1 cannot pick up because they time you from marker to marker on the freeway.

I was waiting for the handcuffs for me and the tow truck for my car but the officer said it was a waiverable violation. Just called to get the cost and its $209 which isn't bad in my book. Time to slow down for sure though.

potmilkz

you did 50+mph speed limit and your ticket was only $209????

wcoy

I swear on the life of my son, I couldn't believe it. The paperwork that the cop gave me says $2.00 per mile over speed limit plus court costs of $85.00, which comes out to $209. I called to make sure and the lady was very suprised on the other end that it was $209 also. I'm very lucky.

weather

wholly crap you sure got lucky! Here, with that kind of offense, you would be sharing a jail cell with a 300lbs brutus that would tell you ..."you have pretty mouth" Needless to say, in addition your farts would never sound the same after....you are a lucky lucky man *lol*

silkysmooth_96

I bet the limiter is based solely on the transmission output shaft pickup sensor. I'm sure if you either a) unplug the speed sensor or B) wire to a switch on the dash to disconnect when you feel like going faster, you will not trigger the governor.

If they (Acura)were really smart, they might have used the VSA/ABS sensor system (or even GPS but I doubt it) to also reference to vehicle speed for this particular reason and it might not work. Additionally, you would need your GPS (iphone etc.) to determine your new speed as the speedo reads zero.

Anyone tried this yet?

HeartTLs

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Frame that

Pseudomaniac

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Easiest way to remove the speed governor:

1. Find an abandoned stretch of road.
2. Floor it.
3. As you approach 130 mph, jerk the wheel as hard as you can to the left.
4. When (if) you wake up in the hospital, you'll have no interest in pushing a 4000lb street car past 130mph on public roads again, if you can A. Still Walk and B. Have a license.

Let me know how that goes, assuming of course, you still have the mental capacity to read and reply after trying this.

wcoy

Ha, was waiting for one of those reply's. We can agree to disagree. I chose not to yank the wheel at 130 even if you would have liked me too.

potmilkz

honestly if that was in cali, you would have been booked in jail, with a reckless driving, speeding, and some other charges along with that.. oh and you will sure lose your license after that.

fsttyms1

My TL bounces off the limiter many times monthly at 155..

Go out side a large city and find some back road stretches. You CAN do this type of test safely (as safe as going that fast can be) without endangering ANYONE but yourself. I have so many roads around here that i can do this type of thing all day long and not see another car (no driveways, houses, cross roads for miles)


Oh and i have pulled on the wheel at 130 in the TL all while getting on the brake. It resulted in me turning (Road America) Knowing how to drive will get you far.

Pseudomaniac

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Assuredly, I've got more track time, more professional race instruction, and more SCCA events under my belt than 95% of the people on this site; there is a time and place to go fast. I live on Kentucky backroads. My S2000 hit limiter at 162 on the spray, and with 16 inch wilwood 4 piston brakes, P-Zeros, a 5 point harness, and about 20 hours of track time at Mid-Ohio and Perry Park under my belt, I could comfortably take the car to speed whenever, wherever, and however.

That said, the TL is not an S2000. Brakes and tires are adequate for spirited driving, but not for bringing that car from 155 to 0 in under 200 feet on it's wheels. The backend gets quite loose on the track at corner entries in excess of 85 and lift-throttle oversteers like anything that heavy should.

A good friend of mine killed his best friend riding shotgun a few years ago playing the "lets see how fast it will go" game in his modified LS1 Firebird, and now is serving 5 years in Federal Prison for manslaughter, with his best friends blood on his hands.

Crash Kills Best Friend

You wanna go out and splatter your brains on an abandoned stretch of road, alone, have at it. Get on the road that my friends, family, and I travel and drive like that, it becomes personal.

fsttyms1

No one ever said they were doing it with YOUR friends and family on the road, or anyone on the road for that matter. You yourself have claimed to have gone fast on public roads, then in the next breath start talking like you are a saint and have never done anything like it. and also by claiming you have more experience than most as if that is to make it ok. Sure IF they are doing this on a busy interstate or Hwy it is stupid, But if they are doing it like YOU and I have done what is the harm.

Pseudomaniac

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People who understand cars, and racing, and limitations don't ask questions like "can you up the speed governor".

g37guy01

You are correct, except I don't want my tax dollars to go toward cleaning up your body or car on public roads, should you crash because you feel it's your right to go as fast as you want.

And I'm not an angel, I went very fast once in my life that was it. Worried about being caught as I would be thrown in jail at those speeds. Never did it again. Now I'll only go as fast the traffic.

Go to the track if you want to break the rules or explore the limits of your car.

Pseudomaniac

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I'm a bit surprised to see the Azine Mod condoning illegal activity. After slamming the door on scamming a window tint ticket, condoning travelling 150mph on public roads would seem a bit hypocritical.

Jullia

i don't think so

moych1

Sorry ,but i should have made it clearer when I asked if we can up the speed governor on a TL. Reason why I asked is I have enrolled in a High Performance Driving School and from the videos i've seen
on the race track stock cars were doing 140-150 on the back straight. According to Acura tls' are maxed out at 131.I would'nt even dare drive this fast on a public road.

BEAR-AvHistory

^^^^

I would not worry about it. VIR's grand west course is 4.1 miles around & has a pretty good length straight away. The only two stock cars that are near or at 150mph max speed at VIR are the Corvette ZR1/155mph & the Nissan GT-R 149mph.

I would expect a TL would be in the low 120's at VIR. Not sure what track you will be at but cars generally need a good run to get up to max speed like an airport run & most road courses just don't have the room.

Pseudomaniac

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You'd need a mile or mile and a half mile straight to think about hitting 130, and that's if your corner exit speed is going to be 65+, and your corner entrance speed is going to be 65+. You'll figure out the braking limit on the 4G real quick with those kind of ins/outs.

Car gets tail happy at 85+. Watch your hot tire pressures.

Where you'll get the Mustang/Camaro guys is nailing the apexes, not on the straight. Watch some videos of the Realtime Racing guys running their TSX's and TLs. Can't out muscle a 3.35 bimmer on the straight, but they'll pass one in the switchbacks with ease - and those are just FF cars.

moych1

thank you - Bear-avHistory and Pseudomaniac.Just so excited to finallly be doing this High Performance Driving Lessons. Do you think a 2010 6mt shawd is a good track car or is it time to trade. I will probably be doing this 3 to 4 times a year so any input or advice will be highly appreciated. I would like to stay stocked but - do you think I should do minor mods like brakes or free flow air? thanks again !

justnspace

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suspension + RSB, tires, and lighten your car.
skip on the cold air intake.
if you would like to free up some power, look into doing PCDs,jpipe and exhaust.

Pseudomaniac

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Track mods I would suggest for longevity:

Get you a set of track rims and tires (and TPS sensors). Some sticky p-zeroes or something will change you into a competitor once your skill level is up. Gravel traps and tire wear will destroy your stock rims.

Slotted/drilled rotors and some more aggressive pads are advisable. When I first started Auto-X/track daying my 00 Civic Si, I burned the factory pads up in about 3 hours.

Plan on squeaky brakes.

Stainless steel brake lines and a SS clutch line if one is available.

Switchout the brake fluid to redline. If you don't mind the trans being a little noisy, I'd find redline trans and diff fluid as well. These fluids have higher temp tolerances and are intended for less comfort and more function. You won't boil redline in the caliper....you will boil the stock fluid.

I've found perhaps the best DIY mod you can make for tracking the car IMO is a good seat belt. You're a completely different driver when you aren't using the steering wheel to fight to keep yourself on balance. There are some seatbelt lock/tensioner devices for the factory belt that will keep you planted a bit better. If you buy the right hooks, most of the 5 point style harnesses can latch into the LATCH points for a carseat, so you could have a 5 point without modding the car. Anchoring the lap belt to the factory seatbelt bolt points is the trick, but there are ring bolts that will allow this.

Invest in a bladder type water bottle with a long straw that you can fit in the console or the cupholder. It get hot in the car on track day in a helmet and long sleeves/pants.

If you're in it for more power - the P2R thermal gaskets, and TB spacer, should help with heat soak. You can probably add 40-50hp by ditching all the cats and doing PCDs/Longtube J Pipe for about $1000 - but not sure how the O2 defoulers on those will stand up to a day of WOT bouncing on the track.

BEAR-AvHistory

I would keep the TL for a DD & buy a used Miata or something like that for the track. Expect you will have a lot more fun & it will be a lot less expensive to run.

Pseudomaniac

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^^Was the same conclusion I came to. You can pick up a lightly abused S2000 worth having for under 10k, and have a blast.

Sold my S2000 due to lack of carseat space last year. Miss it dearly this time of year.

fsttyms1

Dont worry, i pay taxes too. My portion will go to my cleanup.
Oh and i do keep it to the track for the most part.

I never said i condoned (even though i have done it, it doesnt make it right) it but come on, we arent all angles. Every one at some point has done something they shouldnt have that could have led to bad consequences

Also me being a mod has nothing to do with it. I have opinions just like you do. I have the right to voice my opinions as you do. (and i had nothing to do with the scamming a window tint ticket or what ever it was)