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Old 08-11-2008, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by metallitool
And $42k is definitely too expensive. You can get an AWD G35 for much less than that. It has about the same horsepower, but I'm sure it's lighter and faster. It's also better looking.
The last time I checked G35x's MSRP exceeds Acura's. Both are good bargains in this category.
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hei Joseph! I'm from Italy too, nice to meet you here, but the 4GN is not the best looking sedan from Acura...
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What I don't get is why Honda keeps stalling the launch of the 4g? They only release one picture then set the embargo having given all the media outlets official info and expecting them to wait a whole week before they release it.... welcome to the 21st century Honda.

I remember how Audi got mad when on the web appeared the photos of the A5 and of the S5 too (it was considered a secret the parallel launch of the 2 versions), but a couple of day after, they put the A5 on their web site, and ever. ok....
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Originally Posted by metallitool
Huh? Where you did get that TL is competing with those cars? As far as I know, TL is still competing against entry-level luxury sedans like the Infinity G35, Lexus IS, BMW 3 series, etc. And $42k is definitely too expensive. You can get an AWD G35 for much less than that. It has about the same horsepower, but I'm sure it's lighter and faster. It's also better looking.
it's 5 years on we are discussing if the TL is a competitor of the G/3/A4 class or of the GS/5/A6 class... And the RL too. Even more now.
The fact is that in Acura they consider the TL (as the engineer said in the interview on the web) a compet. of the IS or G35 class, but the TL is much more long and wide (like the cross class Lexus ES) and for dimentions is right in the 5 series class...
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2008 Infiniti G35 Sedan xAWD
$34,750 3.5L V6 306HP 17/23 mpg @ 3704lbs (thats lighter than the 09 base TL).
Old 08-11-2008, 06:58 AM
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If Acura does wind up pricing this in the $40k range, then that's just ridiculous, IMO. I'm sure plenty would (will?), but I'd never spend that much on a TL, especially not a 4G.

And, judging from this picture, neither would Triumph.

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Originally Posted by cbusAcuracls
2008 Infiniti G35 Sedan xAWD
$34,750 3.5L V6 306HP 17/23 mpg @ 3704lbs (thats lighter than the 09 base TL).
G35x with most of the bells & whistles ( Tech, Navi & Premium) = 41,115.00 MSRP
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G35x with most of the bells & whistles ( Tech, Navi & Premium) = 41,115.00 MSRP

and why and we compariing the 08 G35x to the 09 TL???? Should be comparing to the 09 G37.
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Actually, I apologize for even posting that. We shouldn't be comparing anything in this thread. Comparisons belong in Car Talk.
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some more pics of the car in white

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From TorontoR's link--official press release:

Originally Posted by jalopnik.com
All-New 2009 TL Redefines Performance with the Most Powerful Engine in Acura History and Super Handling All-Wheel Drive™

With dramatic new styling, precise handling and a host of advanced technology and safety features, the fourth-generation TL is Acura's performance leader TORRANCE, Calif. - Since inception, the Acura TL performance luxury sedan has set lofty standards for styling, performance, comfort and technology. Available for 2009 in two distinctly different models, TL and TL SH-AWD®, the all-new fourth-generation Acura TL dramatically expands the model's capabilities and appeal with evocative style, a choice of two VTEC® powertrains (including a new 305-horsepower V-6) and the TL's first-ever application of Super Handling All-Wheel Drive™ (SH-AWD®).
Boasting larger dimensions, optimized suspension, a new Sequential SportShift transmission, plus an available Technology Package featuring a comprehensive array of navigation and communication aids, the 2009 TL offers more appeal than ever before. Along with an available Acura/ELS Surround® premium 10-speaker surround sound system and an all-new AcuraLink® weather feature, the new TL is by far the most technologically advanced sedan in Acura's history.
The combination of dramatic new styling, exhilarating performance and an extensive array of electronics (including AcuraLink® real-time traffic and AcuraLink® weather with Doppler-style radar mapping) ensures the 2009 Acura TL will appeal to a sophisticated, technology-savvy audience.

Powertrain
A choice of two different all-aluminum VTEC® engines enables the new 2009 TL to satisfy a wide range of customers. Standard is a 3.5-liter V-6 producing 280 horsepower and 254 lb-ft of torque that sends power to the front wheels through Acura's sophisticated Sequential SportShift 5-speed automatic transmission with steering-wheel- mounted paddle shifters and Grade Logic Control. Though powerful, the new engine is also fuel efficient, with projected EPA fuel economy ratings* of 18 mpg city and 26 mpg highway. The engine is targeted to meet California's tough CARB LEV II ULEV emissions certification standards, thanks to features including a Drive-by-Wire™ throttle system, Computer-Controlled Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI) and Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC®) for the intake valves.
Serious performance-sedan devotees will choose the TL SH-AWD® to make winding roads their own. Its all-new 3.7-liter V-6 engine produces 305 horsepower and 275 lb-ft of torque courtesy of greater displacement and additional high-performance features like Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC®) on both the intake and exhaust valves, and a special high-flow dual exhaust system. With projected EPA fuel economy ratings* of 17 mpg city and 24 mpg highway, the 3.7L is also targeted to meet California's stringent CARB LEV II ULEV emissions certification. The pièce de résistance on the TL SH-AWD® is the Super Handling All-Wheel Drive™ system, now available on the TL for the first time.
During spirited cornering, SH-AWD® seamlessly distributes more torque to the outside rear wheel to create a "yaw moment" to help the TL turn in more quickly and precisely - while also continuously apportioning drivetrain torque front to rear and left to right. The result is a remarkably balanced and precise all-wheel-drive performance sedan that excels year-round, not just during inclement weather.
Acura TL's performance achievements extend to durability, reliability and refinement as well. Both engines feature electronically controlled engine mounts to reduce engine noise, vibration and harshness (NVH); quiet and efficient Electric Power Steering (EPS) and maintenance-free serpentine accessory belt also boost operating refinement. A standard Maintenance Minder™ system and up to a 100,000-mile tune-up interval offer further time and cost savings for the TL owner.
The standard transmission on the 2009 TL and TL SH-AWD® is a Sequential SportShift 5-speed automatic featuring F1®-style steering-wheel mounted paddle shifters and Grade Logic Control. Merging the convenience of an automatic with the enjoyment of SportShift manual gear selection, the transmission also features an overdriven top gear for maximum fuel efficiency on the highway. In fact, the Acura transmission has the widest gear-ratio spread of any 5-speed transmission in its class, providing strong acceleration in lower gears and relaxed, fuel-efficient highway cruising.

Body/Chassis
Major improvements in structural engineering for the unit-body further define the 2009 TL. The list of substantial changes begins with the relocation of frame rails inside (rather than underneath) the vehicle's floor pan, resulting in a nearly flat body underside. Benefits of this design include improved crash safety, a significant reduction in interior noise levels, and reduced aerodynamic drag that helps enhance fuel economy. Another significant improvement is the increased use of high-strength steel, which simultaneously improves the unit-body's overall strength while helping to reduce weight. For additional weight savings, aluminum is used for the hood, the front suspension subframe and rear suspension knuckles.
Ride quality and passenger comfort benefit from the 2009 TL's larger exterior dimensions. Featuring 6.0 inches greater exterior length, 1.8 inches more overall width and Ride quality and passenger comfort benefit from the 2009 TL's larger exterior dimensions. Featuring 6.0 inches greater exterior length, 1.8 inches more overall width and a modest 0.5-inch increase in overall height, the TL is noticeably larger than its predecessor.
The larger body size directly contributes to greater interior roominess; it also allows a 1.4-inch longer wheelbase to improve ride quality and a significantly wider track (1.1 inches wider in front, 1.8 inches wider in the rear) helps generate even more tenacious cornering power. The TL employs a double-wishbone independent front suspension and a multi-link independent system in back.
Further improving ride quality and road-holding are new dual-stage "blow off" style hydraulic suspension dampers, new hydro-compliant bushings (used to mount the transmission and key suspension components) and a new "smart" engine mount design. On the Super Handling All-Wheel Drive™ (SH-AWD®) model, more performance-minded suspension and brake tuning, larger wheels/tires, racing-inspired front brake cooling ducts, and specially-tuned Electric Power Steering (EPS) take the enthusiast's driving experience to an even higher level.

Exterior/Interior
An evocative and powerful exterior body design dramatically advances the TL's image as a performance luxury sedan. Designed by Acura in Southern California, the TL utilizes an array of styling techniques to express motion - and emotion - even when the car is at rest. Featuring Acura's new signature front grille, body sides defined by strong character lines, sweeping C-pillars and new LED taillights, the 2009 TL is simultaneously Acura and yet wholly unique. Plentiful use of luxury and performance features add visual appeal while adding to the TL's vigorous statement - including bright HID projector-beam front headlights, pronounced wheel arches, a standard power moonroof and genuine stainless-steel body trim.
Wheels and tires are as expressive as the exterior styling. Standard on the 2009 TL are 17-inch aluminum wheels with P245/50R17 all-season Bridgestone Turanza or available Michelin Pilot tires for confident year-round performance. The TL SH-AWD® comes with 18-inch aluminum wheels with lower-profile P245/45R18 Michelin Pilot tires for more agile handling. Finally, the TL SH-AWD® offers available 19-inch aluminum wheels with aggressive P245/40ZR19 Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 summer tires for the ultimate TL performance experience.
In keeping with its mission as a driver's car, the 2009 TL interior features a new "dual personal" layout that provides both the driver and front passenger with their own personal space. Thanks to its larger exterior dimensions, the new TL has 1.3 inches more rear legroom and 0.5-inch of added rear shoulder room compared to the previous generation TL.
Acura's commitment to luxury and technology becomes apparent from the first moment the driver's door is opened. With sweeping shapes, generous use of premium materials and passionate attention to detail, the TL rewards the discriminating eye. The design and execution of the interior is an artful combination of leather surfaces, accented by metallic and wood-pattern trim. An impressive array of premium standard features includes a power moonroof, dual-zone adaptive climate control, 10-way adjustable (8-way power seat with 2-way power lumbar support) driver seat, 8-way adjustable power front passenger seat, and steering-wheel-mounted F1®-style paddle shifters for the Sequential SportShift automatic transmission. An 8-speaker, 276-watt audio system that includes a 6-disc CD changer, AM/FM radio, XM® Satellite Radio, Bluetooth® Audio, USB port and AUX jack connectivity, and HandsFreeLink® wireless telephone interface are standard.
Available on both the TL and TL SH-AWD® is a Technology Package that includes the most comprehensive array of advanced electronic features ever offered by Acura. The Technology Package includes the Acura Navigation System with Voice Recognition™, AcuraLink® real-time traffic, AcuraLink® weather with Doppler-style radar mapping, an Acura/ELS Surround® premium audio system and Keyless Access System with pushbutton ignition. The included Navigation System features a new 8-inch full VGA high-resolution color display for improved visibility.
Audiophiles with appreciate the new Acura/ELS Surround® 10-speaker, 440-watt premium sound system with DVD-Audio, CD, DTS™, AM/FM radio, XM® Satellite Radio and 2,500-song** hard disk drive (HDD) media storage. An intuitive interface dial as well as sophisticated voice recognition capability simplifies control of this impressive technology. Premium Milano leather seating surfaces included in the Technology Package further enhances comfort and visual appeal.
Safety
Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) represents a major advance in structural engineering for the 2009 TL. In simple terms, ACE™ better dissipates crash energy in a severe frontal collision through the use of dedicated load-bearing frame structures that efficiently distribute crash energy through the body structure—while also helping to preserve the integrity of the passenger compartment. Acura first introduced ACE™ to the Acura line for the 2005 model year and its inclusion in the 2009 TL means that every vehicle in the Acura model range now has this advanced safety engineering.
Six airbags and a new Active Head Restraint System for the driver and front passenger headrests top the long list of passive safety features built into the new TL. The airbag array includes dual-stage, dual-threshold front airbags, new dual-chamber front seat side airbags with front passenger seat Occupant Position Detection System, along with side-curtain airbags for all outboard seating positions. Additional passive-safety features include 3-point seatbelts and head restraints for all seating positions, driver and front passenger seatbelt load-limiters with an automatic tensioning system and a Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren (LATCH) system that permits quick, secure attachment of up to two child seats in the rear seating area.
The new TL includes sophisticated active safety features including powerful 4-wheel disc brakes (with ABS, EBD and Brake Assist), Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA), Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS), all-season tires and an available SH-AWD® system. Adding to the list of standard exterior safety features are daytime running lights (DRL) along with 2.5-mph front and rear bumpers.
The 2009 Acura TL is designed to meet the latest crash-safety regulations, including the new FMVSS214 side crash standards (which the TL meets three years early) and the new FMVSS301 rear crash standards. Internal testing indicates that the 2009 TL should achieve the highest ratings in National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)*** and Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) crash tests.
The 2009 Acura TL is assembled in Marysville, Ohio and is covered by a comprehensive 4-year/50,000 mile bumper-to-bumper limited warranty and a 6-year/70,000 mile powertrain limited warranty. Additional benefits of ownership include Acura Total Luxury Care (TLC), which provides free 24-hour roadside assistance, concierge service and trip routing.

Acura
Acura offers a full line of technologically advanced performance luxury vehicles through a network of 270 dealers within the United States. The 2009 Acura lineup features five distinctive models including the RL luxury performance sedan, the TL performance luxury sedan, the TSX sports sedan, the turbocharged RDX luxury crossover SUV and the award-winning MDX luxury sport utility vehicle.
For more information about Acura vehicles, please visit www.acura.com. For media inquiries, please go to www.acuranews.com.

* Based on preliminary 2009 EPA mileage estimates determined during internal testing that reflects new EPA fuel economy methods beginning with 2008 models. Use for comparison purposes only. Do not compare to models before 2008. Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle.

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*** Government star ratings are part of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's (NHTSA's) New Car Assessment Program (www.safercar.gov). Model tested with standard side-impact air bags (SABs).
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I really think this car is going to look impressive in black...

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Originally Posted by levon1830
I really think this car is going to look impressive in black...

Edit time ran out. Check out the new TL from this angle:

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Jalopnik is calling the SHAWD car the Type-S in its newest blog.
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wow the front of the TL-P is soo f-ing ugly (not that the sh-awd is any better)
lol but the base model has a nicer exhaust tip ......
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i want to see what the dash looks with the SH-AWD
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After viewing the new pics, I like the interior, and I don't dislike the exterior as much (but in truth, I'm not saying I like the car). I really want to like this car, but I'm just not feeling it as much as I had hoped. The problem is that as said before, it has generic styling seen on other cars like a Maxima, Camry, and Infiniti G series (even a GS300/400), so it doesn't stand out as something new or revolutionary. I'm sure the technology is there for a truly great road car, but the styling is still lacking.
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I like the rear now. But the wheels on the base are really, far too small.
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Originally Posted by VoLLy_1llusioNz
I like the rear now. But the wheels on the base are really, far too small.
For sure there will be a 18'' and 19'' option available....with the SH-AWD option 19'' are a must !!! IMO
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The front has got to go. The more I look at it the uglier it gets
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In spite of all the "ugly" talk, this car is begining to look like a winner to me. I'll roll the dice and say there will be a lot of minds changing in the next few days.
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yea the car has def grown on me. Now all i gota do is see one in person. All i need for them to do is come out with a coupe and ill be on the waiting list! No more sedans for me
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To those who have kept their 3Gen in stock form because they choose so (not for lack of funds), IMO I can see them get into the new 4G. 3G in stock trim is ugly. 4G in stock trim also ugly.

But for the other half of us who think the 3G is ugly in it's stock form (although the 07/08 not as bad compared to the base 04-06 models), and as a result have modified our vehicles to rid of the "plain jane" look, the deciding factor will be having seen a modified 4G with drop, kit, & rims. For other modders, something will have to be done with that hideous front grill.

Revised front grill looks good on the MDX, looks ok on the TSX, looks absolutely horrible on the RL and this 4G TL.
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To those who have kept their 3Gen in stock form because they choose so (not for lack of funds), IMO I can see them get into the new 4G. 3G in stock trim is ugly. 4G in stock trim also ugly.

But for the other half of us who think the 3G is ugly in it's stock form (although the 07/08 not as bad compared to the base 04-06 models), and as a result have modified our vehicles to rid of the "plain jane" look, the deciding factor will be having seen a modified 4G with drop, kit, & rims. For other modders, something will have to be done with that hideous front grill.

Revised front grill looks good on the MDX, looks ok on the TSX, looks absolutely horrible on the RL and this 4G TL.

Actually the more I look at it, that white, base 4G TL looks like something that would be available to rent from Avis, Enterprise, etc. Reminds me of the Impalas / Ford Taurus' used as the field sales fleet car for many companies. UGLY.
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Originally Posted by special-ed
Actually the more I look at it, that white, base 4G TL looks like something that would be available to rent from Avis, Enterprise, etc. Reminds me of the Impalas / Ford Taurus' used as the field sales fleet car for many companies. UGLY.
There should be a heck of alot more distinctive and graceful high-end styling at this price point. That grill (rant) is Impala/Taurus calibre, looks like they had a hole in the front that they needed to fill fast.

Strange design decision ... maybe they didn't want to make it better looking than the RL ?
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The rest of the car is sharp...copy off of Infiniti..but sharp. I still can't get past the front. Not attractive what so ever.
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gorgeous car! i like the keen edge dynamic mazinga origamish style! very bold and streamlined!i am looking for the 2011 RL with this blade-runner style! it's more powerful than the mercedes c350 with 272 hp! i am looking for the type-s
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Originally Posted by levon1830
I really think this car is going to look impressive in black...

the brown interior looks great Levon, it's similar to the old Camel one...
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gorgeous car! i like the keen edge dynamic mazinga origamish style! very bold and streamlined!i am looking for the 2011 RL with this blade-runner style! it's more powerful than the mercedes c350 with 272 hp! i am looking for the type-s
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cyborgen you are REALLY crazy. where have you got such a disgusting photo????screwy:
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Cyborgen should be banned for that. Rediculous.

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I finally figured out why the gave it that ugly rear end. You see the "rear grille" type design they did on the back? it's so that the water doesn't stay on the back end of the car and create water stains after a wash (much like our 3G TL's do). Still...it's a fugly car, and that one great change doesn't make up for it being ugly...
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How come the burgandy one has like.. a lens in the lower grille area while the silver/white ones just have plain black? The plain black looks unfinished to me

17" wheels don't look right either; there's way too much rubber showing.. but.. that "sky view" of the front end looks damned good!!!

Edit: guess the white one has the lens too; it just looks.. more complete that way!
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cyborgen that's fucking foul you idiot.
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Originally Posted by RandallW
I finally figured out why the gave it that ugly rear end. You see the "rear grille" type design they did on the back? it's so that the water doesn't stay on the back end of the car and create water stains after a wash (much like our 3G TL's do). Still...it's a fugly car, and that one great change doesn't make up for it being ugly...

Nice theory...
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well.... so much for cooled seats... doesn't look like it comes with that option..


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