a35tl

I'm just curious and wanted to pose a question to the Acurazine family. If you were buying one of these 2 cars today, would you choose the '13 Accord Touring or the '13 TL Advance (fwd) and why? In fairness, I'm excluding the SH-AWD version of the TL.

For me personally, I'm thinking that I would probably choose the Accord. Offers almost feature for feature, newer technology, comparable power and better mpg on regular fuel. I think either would be a fine choice and just wanted to see what you guys thought.

cagilber

I actually think I would go with the Honda Accord Touring. I saw one on the road this weekend and it was a sharp looking car. If you can splurge and get the nicer wheels and decklid spoiler I think it would be a better car with newer more options (LED headlights & adaptive cruise).

Packagingpro

Wow,
Tough Choice! I think I may go Accord Touring and add the Lip Spoiler on the back. LED Head Lights look and perform flawless.
Honda Runs on Regular Fuel, better gas mileage (21/34/25).
The Navi system is probably more updated in the Honda, although you will not get the 5.1 audio.
The Acura has a better warranty.
The Honda model will be current for 5 more years, Acura, 1 year!
No discounts or incentives for Honda, Great deals on Acura!
Adaptive Cruise and Lane Departure is a nice option, available on TL Advanced and Accord Touring.

Makes you wonder how killer the new TL is going to be!

Good Luck on decision!

ffiallo

I agree with above poster, tough choice, but at todays discounted pricing for the TL Tech or Adv ($33-34K) I would probably go TL again, but in a yr from now or less when Accords are discounted ($28-30K) I would definitely consider an Accord 6 cyl EX-L, with spoiler and 18" or a Touring, but quite honestly I would probably use the money for the spoiler and 18" from the Sport and avoid the Touring.
Great mileage on regular fuel - plus Honda.
LEDs - plus Honda.
Better warranty and perks of luxury brand, i.e.: loaner cars - plus Acura.
However, note the TL Advanced DOESN't have Adaptive Cruise Control nor Lane Departure. It has a blind spot monitor.
Good luck!

Mr Marco

Love the Accord. But I can't live without the SH-AWD. You really can't live with AWD north of the 45th parallel (especially if you ski). On the flip of that after driving SH-AWD for 6 years I would choose it even in a good climate.

Treblig

Give those choices, I think I would go with the Accord. I really like the looks of it and the technology it is offering looks pretty nice.

DYPKNY845

Can't really say, if anything the new accord will be very similar to the rlx not really the tl

Glashub

I bought a car based on features and while they're very nice; they don't compensate for the loss of the TL driving exerience most of the time.

slick316

I test drove the new Accord, and considering that the TL is probably in its last year of production, I would either get the Accord Touring now or wait for the 2014 TL(X).

The Accord is a great car, very nice set of features for the money, great gas mileage, and overall a very competent daily driver.

Pens Fan

I would either grab a TL which is in the 4th (12) or 5th (13) year of production so all of the bugs have been worked out and the pricing as stated above is great with the multiple incentives, or wait for the 2014 TLX to see what is offered on that model. The Accord looks great no doubt, but Acura versions of the same body style are well worth the price premium they command and I would be patient.

Ant$

even though they say never buy the first year of a new generation...


...the accord

BEAR-AvHistory

Accord now or wait

Ken1997TL

Accord

Unless you really love the SH-AWD and DVD-audio system.

ParaSurfer1979

This is a very good conversation but I'd like to add something noone has really touched on. If the Accord Touring model is this nice, just think of whats to be offered in the Acura products in 2014. As of today, the 2013 Accord Touring may edge the 2013 TL FWD in offerings but the only thing the TL will edge the Accord in is the responsiveness in ride. Keep in mine Honda switched to McPherson struts on the 13'... I'm one of many 8th gen Accord owners that traded to the 3rd Gen TL which was based on the 7th gen Accords chassis and it's funny that the 3rd gen TL road 30-40% more solid and firm than my 08 EX-L Navi Accord coupe w/ 18in HFP rims on 225/40 tires even.

So I digress,

What I'd do if you can is wait to see the 14' TL. Compare equal chassis to each other before deciding.

JM2010 SH-AWD

^^ Agree. If the Accord is as good as many testers are saying, the 5G TL is really going to be something.

weather

I would add my name to the growing list of those that says: "if you can wait until you see the 2014 TLX, I'd say that would be your best bet. I'd hate for you to have buyers remorse within one year of getting the Accord. Besides, the extra wait will only allow Honda to work out some potential kinks should there be any. That being said, the TL has had some known issue from the beginning and they still make it into the production cars (sunroof TSB for example).

I think either decision you will make will be a good one but given that the plateform is new and that the TLX will soon be released (we'll likely start seeing some spy pics next spring)....I'd say try and hold off if you can.

My 2 cents....

FirstTL12

I bought my 2012 TL in June because my old car was ready to give up the ghost. If I were in the market now, but my existing car was guaranteed to go at least 12 more months, I'd wait for the 2014 TL(X).

Rocketsfan

Depends. If you need a car now and don't need the performance and near-luxury/luxury interior of the TL, get the Accord. It probably packs more current tech as a package than the current TL does. It'll also be a current design for years. I sat in the new Accord over the weekend, and, while it's a great looking car from the outside, you'll definitely see the difference between a TL and an Accord in the materials inside.

You could wait for the 2014 TLX, but that may be a one year wait. Not to mention, will the sticker price on it go up appreciably? Who knows.

If I had to choose between the two today, I'd probably choose the Accord for much the same reasons you stated.

Edward'TLS

Buy now for the major-redesigned '13 Accord, or wait another year for the major-redesigned '14 TL.

The '14 TL will definitely carry most of the big-ticket features of the '13 Accord, plus more. Because the TL model is always more luxury and premium than the economy brand Accord.

No point in now buying the end-of-the-model-cycle '13 TL, which will be in most way seemed inferior than the brand new '13 Accord.

Pseudomaniac

iTrader: (1)

Assuming you have the time, I'd wait on the 14 TL if your preference is performance and comfort, or at the very least until the 13 TL goes on clearance and price compare vs the loaded Accord.

wreak

Has a 2014 TL been confirmed? I thought the 2012 was a "mid-cycle refresh" meaning you'd have 09-11 design & 12-14 design which would mean you wouldn't see a new TL until 2015...

vinnier6

iTrader: (1)

i would buy a civic before i bought an accord over the tl....i am not paying 35k for a honda accord....yall are high, if i am paying 35k+ for a car, its going to be a luxury brand, not an econo brand....so if i am buying a honda, i might as well get 35mpg and save 10k

gokhanturk

defff agree with you.

ffiallo

I dont, a civic is too small.
BTW, you can get the Sport Accord and save $10K and get 35 mpg - so this is attainable without going Civic.

stars_fan

If I was buying today it would be the accord touring and a couple boxes of b quiet to give the interior a lux feel.

Personally I want the shawd and 5.1 audio.

Edward'TLS

The current normal Acura product cycle lasts for 5 years. For the 4G TL, the first half of the product cycle was 2.5 years, and the second half another 2.5 years.

But here's the tricky part. How do you get the two 0.5 year of model year duration ? The answer is a shortened MY' 11, and a lengthened MY '12.

The first half of the cycle consisted of MY '09, 10', and '11, and the second half consists of MY '12, and '13.

So MY '11 only lasted for 6 months (Sept/Oct 2010 to Feb 2011), instead of 12 months.

Accordingly, MY '12 lasted for 18 months (Mar 2011 to Sept/Oct 2012). Then the last model year in the cycle, MY '13, resumes back the 12-month duration.

Unless there's another global economy meltdown, another Japanese earthquake, and/or armed conflict with mainland China, that threaten to throw off the entire Acura product planning; we should see the new-from-the-ground-up '14 TL-class sedan in the fall of 2013.

Oswald Vater

I sure do like the features on the new Accord but can't believe they don't offer the Orchid White with a black leather interior - That would be a deal-breaker for me! That being said you should be able to get a 13 TL/Tech for a better price than a 13 Accord touring. But as others have said if you can wait another year I would look at the 14 TL when it comes out and then decide.

wreak

Dammit my newly aquired 2012 TL is going to look like an artifact in 12 months...

012TL-GLM

Given the criteria Accord

I see no reason to spend luxury dollars on FWD

If it costs north of $35K it better be AWD/RWD, have over 300 hp and awesome tech.

The new Accord at least seems to have the tech

012TL-GLM

Ha, hardly - the current TL will look great for years to come. It's got classy lines that stand out, but aren't over the top. We don't have many TL's around my area, but every once in a while I see an older model, and just this morning passed an older RSX - Acura does a good job keeping the lines lasting imo

Edward'TLS

You know, you're already better off than the 2013 TL owners who will be getting even shorter and shorter "display life" for their newly acquired TL's.

a35tl

The sticker on the Accord Touring is under $35k. And in a few months after the initial frenzy of a brand new model wears off, I imagine you could pick one up in the $32k range. I've seen a couple of '13 Accords at the dealer but saw my first one on the road today. It looked sharp. I'm impressed and have high hopes for the '14 TL(X).

jnc2000

And this is why Honda continues to struggle with Acura's identity...

Glashub

Is it safe assume that you're hoping the 2014 TL will be a winner? I enjoy many things about the Genny but miss the TL ride, handling, seats and dare I say it...buttons.

jnc2000

No - Honestly, I'm not interested in anything "hybrid". That seems to be the general direction of Honda now... I don't expect any performance variant of their current offering to forgo the hybridization effect.

For me to even look at a new Honda / Acura in the next couple of years it would have to completely differentiate itself from anything else in the lineup.

As I'm looking for a new car there are a number of things on the must have.

1. 400+ hp
2. 6sp manual or DSG equivalent
3. RWD, or RWD bias AWD system
4. manufacture use use of high tensile steel, magnesium, aluminum, or possibly carbon fiber

I don't see Honda making a non "hybrid" performance vehicle... and for me that is a deal breaker.

Parting thoughts - "I love the smell of gasoline in the morning."

Pseudomaniac

iTrader: (1)

You best just make tracks for the BMW/Benz lot, and double your purchase price expectancy unless you want to stick with the Korean copies.

My list is right there with yours, but we're never going to see that from a Honda product.

jnc2000

Oh I'm well aware. I'm not so worried about the purchase price - that's all relative.

I should note there is one stipulation to my list. I have considered whole hardheartedly picking up a C4S and making it my daily. With a good set of winters that would be one heck of a toy.

The Korean is nice. But I'm longing for power, and reduced weight. Don't need a sedan anymore, thus my list above.

Edward'TLS

You should have no problem fulfilling your wish when price is not an issue. There are so many viable choices out there, especially from the European luxury and exotic auto brands.

ffiallo

You mean C4S Porsche?

jnc2000

Yes sir - from what I hear it's quite the friendly DD.