F23A4

Legend2TL

@F23A4 you're fast, I was gonna post this

sonyfever

I am afraid that this series will be mostly just rehash of what he and most owners already know. But good finding about the trans hang issue, I will see if I can replicate it in mine.

fiatlux

Glad to see they called out the drive mode dial too. This is a hill I'm willing to die on. It's dumb in all their cars (and especially in their crossover) to waste all that prime real estate on a dial that most buyers rarely touch when a simple toggle switch is perfectly functional and much more space efficient.

sonyfever

Tried one run and could not reproduce it. I probably did not go WOT as quickly as Mark, though.

sonyfever

Maybe this makes sense on RDX and TLX, where the spread of IDS modes is not as dramatic, but I beg to differ on MDX-S. I often change IDS a couple times along the the way. I find the knob at a convenient location and certainly easier to use than the mode buttons on BMW.

Tony Pac

Beautiful video from one of the best if not the best reviewers out there. These guys are so honest and technical that make you skip everyone else. No matter what car they review, always on point, and no BS!

They need more support and subscribers!

fiatlux

From one the comments:

If true, that's a facepalm

WasabiPeas

lol - that made me laugh.. thank you! I love sarcastic posts.

Pens Fan

2023 MDX Type S is best vehicle I have ever acquired and have never experienced the transmission issue over the 6,500 miles I have driven it.

F23A4

The characteristic they mentioned was something that I experienced in the ZF9 of my old TLX. Granted, it was a PAWS model so, aggressive throttle while turning was never a good idea.

fiatlux

I'm going back for another test drive of the MDX Type S later today to see how I like it compared to last year. I'll be sure to try out the same scenario Mark and Jack used that triggered the "neutral" between the 2nd and 3rd upshift.

fiatlux

I was able to reproduce the issue. The interesting thing is that I wasn't able to reproduce this when making a right turn, but only a left turn. What I suspect happens is that there needs to be wheelspin detected in second gear as well, and on a right turn your wheels are already straightened out by the time you're in second. In my case there was a good three seconds where the car just cut power between the 2nd and 3rd shift. The salesperson said that he's never felt it before (I believe him), but I was able to do it twice so it's definitely a thing. All he could say is that most drivers will never experience it because people buying a 3-row crossover won't be driving it hard. That's fair, but that also begs the question why an MDX Type-S even exists in the first place...

Unfortunately they didn't have a TLX Type S available to see if it's reproducible in that car. On both my earlier test drives I never came across the condition to trigger it, so I'll have to come back and try it out sometime.

F23A4

I had a Type S Tech loaner for the past several days, while the Accord was being worked on and I was able to replicate this as well. Definitely something for prospective buyers to consider but wouldn’t be a deal breaker for me.

Ian Andrews

I really don't see why the dynamic knob is such a big deal. I have zero issues with it. If the knob and the track pad are the only big complaints then that's a win for Acura.

texashoser

I can't find the original quote you're referring to, but there was nothing for the dealer to fix at this point. It's a logic issue and enough people demonstrate this to the dealer service centers then it can get pushed up the chain and hopefully a fix implemented that can then be uploaded to the car. Nothing mechanical seems wrong.

ELIN

I've performed quite a bit of "dangerous driving" on my BMW where my prior TLX had me making peace with my Lord.

Making turns out of a parking lot onto incoming traffic should never be a harrowing experience!

Tony Pac

well BMW is BMW! Can’t compete with tlx. The number of times probably your check engine shows on a daily basis no other brand can compete

ELIN

I'll certainly keep you posted. If you think I've been critical of Acura on AZ, I don't pull any punches on the BMW forum either!

All cars have their share of praise/critique when it's justified, regardless of make!

Tony Pac

I know...I am just joking with you. No car is perfect and everyone's needs are different. As far as we are happy with our decisions. We are all here to have fun..

Legend2TL

Tony Pac

Great finale....SG killed it!

Well done Acura once again!

Pens Fan

Mine has been flawless-an awesome vehicle !!

fiatlux

Seems like Mark and I are of a similar mind; I mentioned from the test drive that I took that the engine just didn't feel special at all, and that this car should have been marketed as a MDX 3.0T Advance, not as a Type S. As a whole package it's a good car, but it's not really a Type S, not anymore at least now that the bar has been raised. Strip it of the Brembos, quad tail pipes, unnecessariliy large wheels, and commensurately reduce the price by a few thousand buck and it would be a great car. If the ITS is what the "Type S" badge is supposed to be what it's all about, then MDX Type S is wholly unbefitting of that badge.

Pens Fan

Regarding the price-dealers are very negotiable on the remaining 2023's and Acura has now included both the $1,500 loyalty and $750 lease incentives so in addition to being many thousands less than comparable competitors, it is now at this moment even a better value. The engine is light years ahead of the 290 hp version in the other MDX's and the overall ride is way better as well. I will say I am very happy with the overall package and thrilled at the current pricing too.

ELIN

The discounts may be more abundant now but I'm curious how customers are handling the news when comparing against the CX90.

One would almost think Acura might be in a bit of a panic these days and directly responding to the intro of new Mazda products more than worrying about the Germans!

NwTSXmt

Mazda Didn't have any thing to do with the wife picking up her 23 type S advance about a week ago...It was the $5793+1500 off of MSRP....just sayin...Never even looked at a Mazda...oh well

ELIN

A Turbo S Premium Plus is still about $6k cheaper despite the Acura discount:

https://www.edmunds.com/car-comparis...veh2=401980995

What other cars were considered or was it always going to be Acura?

Tony Pac

CX90 is nice but Acura buyers won't cross shop! Nothing to worry for Acura. In contrary, Acura is on fire and killing it with all the news and coverage....Acura has never been this good with their lineup!

F23A4

I’ll give Mazda their props with the CX90 but, not really interested in the brand. As I’m exploring swapping out our 22 Tech for a 23 Type S Advance, really can’t think of another 7 pax crossover I’d rather have up to this price point.

Tony Pac

I own a Mazda and honestly, they are underrated. But the brand has very little to do with Acura. They cannot even compete with Honda if we take CX-5 vs. CRV, CX-9 vs. Pilot and Civic vs. Mazda 3. When the CX-5 Turbo came, everyone was like RDX' game is over...and I said that years ago, don't worry! The CX-5 buyers are not interested in RDX and RDX buyers aren't interested in CX-5.

Let CX-90 to compete with Pilot, Highlander and for sure Telluride and Pallisade. That's their segment!

NwTSXmt

BMW, Volvo and Audi...Truth be told she never got beyond the website "build" and sticker shock and so Hello Acura..She's the penny pincher in the family, if it was up to me...she would have a X7 in the garage...instead of a paid for Type S advance...But its her ride and mula...So

Tony Pac

I am sure there are people who cross shop every vehicle....but the majority of MDX buyers will not cross shop Mazda. I have a Mazda since 2016 (we are in our second one now), and the built quality, handling and design are great. I have no issue with Mazda as a brand, but as of this moment they are competing with Honda and Toyota rather than Lexus and Acura.

ELIN

Unless you really needed the 3rd row, the X5 is a better comparison to the MDX and costs just about the same. The X7's wheelbase is nearly 10" longer than the MDX!

I also wanted the X7 myself but we ended up w/a GLS instead cuz "happy wife....happy life"!

Tony Pac

Nailed it!

Tbh, comparing X7 to MDX is unfair. The price difference is massive. Of course, X7 has to better & top notch. People always compare MDX to QX60, RX350, X5, Q7, GLE and CX90 (maybe GV80 now). Most of the people cross shop these cars and not MDX vs X7 or GLS. That said, who cares, MDX is a massive success for Acura brand and it's the best in its segment.

Edward'TLS

Absolutely correct.

The X7 is a vehicle class above the MDX and X5 SUV's. Simply put, Acura just doesn't have anything in its stable to compete with the X7.

Tony Pac

100%!
The top of the top MDX is not even 75K and the base X7 starts at $82K. Once you start adding options to X7, I believe based on SG, the difference is like $40K lol! Sure, X7 will be great but as mentioned, it should be....If I am paying US$100K-$120K for a car, it has to be top notch and even fly ahahah!