Tony Pac

Let's start a new thread as the Type S is around the corner.

I will start with X5 and the famous, Genesis GV80:

ILM-MDX

I’m awaiting delivery of my 2022 MDX A-spec next week. I owned a 2019 BMW g05 X5 xDrive 40i for about 9,500 miles before becoming fed up with its quirks and trading it. I absolutely loved the driving dynamics of the X5, especially with regard to the acceleration.

I’m starting to get the impression that I am going to possibly be disappointed with the acceleration of the MDX. Can anyone speak to an experience of having owned both a g05 X5 and 4th gen MDX?

TIA

fiatlux

Did you not test drive it before ordering it?

ILM-MDX

I did not.

fiatlux

I hope your deposit is refundable then...

Have you driven the Pilot or 3G MDX? It's about the same, if not a little slower. It's definitely noticably slower than the X5 40i, and objectively I believe 0-60 is behind by about a second and a half.

ELIN

Not a good idea. Generally if you're coming from a German brand and "downgrading" to Acura (as I did), you will find a lot of compromises you'll have to live with for the lower cost of entry.

E92Vancouver

I use to drive German. Way better and way faster and way better handling than Japanese. That's why Japanese is cheaper. Japanese is simpler and as a result much cheaper to maintain outside of warranty. Look at it this way. You saved lots of money. Quality, Performance & Cheap. Pick 2. You can't have 3.

ILM-MDX

I'll say this. I traded my 2019 g05 X5 M40i Executive for a new 2020 Toyota 4Runner TRD PRO, and for a decent amount of coin back in my pocket. Loved every minute of the 4Runner, but it's worth so much more than I paid for it, I figured it was time to try something different. Take delivery likely on Wednesday. Looking forward to the new MDX!

Tony Pac

alpha0

Acura said Type S arriving to dealer lots in mid dec, still no first drive reviews.

Tony Pac

Will be tough. Manufacturing are struggling big time. Hope Acura will be able to push some Type S this year.

Almatti

"You Can't Always get What You Want......But Try Sometime, And You Will Find, You Get What You NEED".... I never had a German Vehicle. When I was shopping to replace my 2010 Infiniti G37X in 2013, I leased a 2013 Infiniti M37X Limited. In that time, I test drove an Audi A6. It had absolute WOW factor with a 325 HP, Supercharged V-6 engine, equivalent high Torque, and handled on the curvey CT roads like it was on Rails. It was better than the comparable MB car, and the BMW 535. But after I drove the M37X, which was not as fast as the Audi A6 or didn't handle to the Audi's level (although better than the MB), I found it to be a Fantastic Value. It was Muscular front end look, and after much research was ranked the Best Value in That segmnent. I had the Hots for that A6, but could not pull the trigger for an additioanl $6,000 Cap Cost (the M37 didn't have a Cap cost need), And a $150 stiopend on the monthly lease over the Audi.
In the summer of 2019, I had a loaner- rental , a BMW X5 3,0i. A very good vehicle, excellent road manners & Handling, and very quick. However, I ended up leasing a 2019 MDX Advance. I couldn't see paying at least $10,000 -$12,000 over the MDX for a comparably equipped SUV, just because it is a "German" car. I live in NY , Westchester County, near the CT border, so the Elites drive lost of Bimmers, Audis, fewer MBs (?), and now Volvos and increasing amounts of Teslas. Oh and MDXs too.
My 2022 MDX in Fathom Blue Pearl when parked in the neighboring parking lots receives accolades from strangers when I drive it there. I'm 70 yo, and have had numerous cars in my lifetime. This MDX is probably at the very top of that list of owned (leased) vehicles. IMO, the redesign transformed it , making it look more Muscular, the 10 sp AT is outstanding, the suspension enhancements which improved the handling CAN be felt immediately over the 2019 I had, the Interior is absolutely Top Shelf (the new QX60 may be a bit more luxurious). It is the best Value in the Market. I Got What I Needed!! Generally, all Novelties wear Off, with this car after 100 days of ownership, Not Yet !!

PS... I could have waited for the Type S model, but as all can see, they like all other cars are delayed getting to the market. And I really don't Need the extra HP or the lower MPGs nor spend another $3K for it.

E92Vancouver

A Type S MDX would be awesome. But 95% of the time I am driving my MDX and only using 150 hp. But that other 5% would be awesome.

Almatti

EZ, I Think the S Type is about 15% in HP over the non S . OUrs @ 290HP, the Type S = 345 AND more Torque. But the MPGs drop as well. And they are not too great as it is. So far, the most I've seen is 23 MPGs on the Highway doing 70-75 MPH, my 2019 would get 10% +/- more (24-25) and driving locally (in Normal Modes), it is worse too = 11-12 MPGs... .

I can't drive this car like a pussy..cat , but I don't slam the throttle either. I test it occassionally in Sport Mode and DS Tranny positions, She pretty Much Flies in those modes, with comparablt further drop in MPGs...
In another thread, daniac mentioned he achieved BETTER MPGs with 87 Octane gas. I always until now, use Premium gas (in my day [I'm 70], we used to call it HI Test ) and achieve the numbers mentioned above. The Manual says that the Minium Octane is rated at 91. I'll try Regular gas on the next Tankful to Test hios Statements. You will lose some Umph for sure.
Be Well and Happy Motoring (that's an Old Esso- turned Exxon) saying.
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Tony Pac

Price wise: Gv80 and TYPE S are identical in Canada.

Tony Pac

WTF.Acura

WTF.Acura

fiatlux

LOL a driving impressions video from Acura?

Tony Pac

Thanks for sharing these amazing videos.! Acura beat both other Japanese brands (Lexus and Infiniti) by offering a performance oriented SUV.

domshed

I'm very interested in hearing this car in person (while in sport mode). In the video it sounds really good.

Tony Pac

Met too! Also, this car looks beyond sporty. I hope it performs as good as it looks

RLX-Sport Hybrid

Check out the Volvo XC90 T8 (Recharge) with the Polestar addition. In the latest model they increased the battery and EV motor power even more. Now with the Polestar addition, power is in excess of 480 hp and torque is over 550 ft/lbs from any rpm. I have the previous generation which is 421 hp and about 502 ft/lbs of tq. It is not sports car, but it flies with ease. Typically I over take people much faster than intended which is not the case in anything other than performance vehicles. Take a look at the new one. I did and I will not buy another Acura for a long time.

Almatti

MDXers appreciate your recommendation of the new Volvo. It looks to be a spectacular vehicle with "tremendous" numbers. Of course, being a EV vehicle (is it a full EV or Plug in Hybrid?), the Volvo will have dynamic MPGs too. As a 2022 Acura MDx Advance model owner, with a regular apirated V6, I cannot achieve those MPGs , nor have those power numbers. I guess it's a matter of pricng. Without looking at a Fully Loaded Volvo XC90 T8, I would speculate it is much higher that $65,000 (Type S MDX). Once the issue of sitting on car length lithium battery which emits elctro-magnetic waves (check out a Coast To Coast radio bradcast of a few days ago where a scientist "warned" of those dangers that no one expresses yet), I may consider something like the Volve in the near future, when my lease expires in 2025. And one who purchases for the long haul,)8-10 years say) must also consider the longevity repair records of both vehicles as well. Good Luck with your Volvo.

Tony Pac

Although the new QX60 looks much better than the previous gen and it will be a great competition for the MDX, but I still believe that the MDX is a better car and will remain a big winner. That said, a solid review by our Canadian folks here.

Tony Pac

A great comparison by Andrea and Zack:
This is a very good and fair review. Regardless of their conclusion, I think they did a good job outlining all the pros and cons of each.

KidK

I have a 2022 TLX Type-S because I’m brand loyal. And I really am enjoying the car. Can’t stand how long it takes for the Infotainment to load, but love the ride.

I’ll buy a MDX Type-S Advanced for the same reasons and assume I’ll enjoy it just as much.

We can split hairs all day about personal preference or interpretations of various testing data. “Love the one you’re with” works for me.

Tony Pac

https://www.thecarconnection.com/new...0-compare-suvs

Good to see these comparisons. Definitely, Aura MDX' handling is better than the QX60. Also, QX60 is too Pathfinder lol!

WTF.Acura

ANTA

Finally! This what I like to see.

Unobtanium

Interesting. I did not know it was so heavy at 4700#. It looks like it would perform very similarly to an RDX given the 700# weight and 83HP disparity.

Tony Pac

Not TYPE S but still:
I like my fellow Canadian reviewers and although they praised and liked the car but WTF is this,.....this is not a review and this is not a walk around. Just because they have 1M followers doesn't mean sh1t! They are taking us for granted. 17 minutes of nonsense. They did not talk about the seats, space, new engine options, sound system and etc. This is a 3rd row vehicle, explain relevant information and not just freaking infotainment. If infotainment was super important to general public, MDX and RDX wouldn't have been one of the best sellers in their segment. This is the biggest issue now with car reviewers. Review and provide BS info!

fiatlux

In case anyone wonders what Acura sees as the competition:

https://www.acura.com/compare/audi-q...ura-mdx-type-s
https://www.acura.com/compare/bmw-x5...ura-mdx-type-s
https://www.acura.com/compare/genesi...ura-mdx-type-s

Tony Pac

With all our difference, thanks for sharing the links.

My take, GV80 is solid competitor to not just Acura but every freaking brand. Their pricing is lower and lots of standard feature.

But in terms of German competition, Acura is still cheaper and gives more standard features. The GV80 is just a tough one to beat. I know a lot of people still do not want to pay $70-$80K for Genesis but the truth is their lineup looks good and gives lots of features for that price point.

fiatlux

None of that matters if Genesis doesn't fix its soft product. As much angst I have about Acura's inconsistent dealership experience, Genesis is far worse because it largely doesn't even have a dealership network and has to piggyback off of its Hyundai network which is staffed with employees who have no experience interacting with luxury car buyers.

Tony Pac

That's true but in Canada you don't have to go to the dealership. They bring the car to you for test drive (45min) and 15 min they discuss the cost and etc. Also, for all maintenance they do the same. Not sure about the US.

fiatlux

The concierge service is dependent on the dealer, and from what I've been hearing it's been very hit or miss (more misses than hits). At the end of day, it's still a Hyundai service rep or salesperson that you're depending on, just with the "Genesis Concierge team" serving as the middleman. It ends up being a game of telephone. If you go to GenesisOwners or GVForums there's countless threads about subpar dealership/concierge experiences.

Unobtanium

So does Chrysler. But miss me with that. There is a reason it's cheap.

ColoRDX

What are the Type S 0-60 numbers? If it's not running in the 4's it's nothing special for a midsize performance crossover and certainly not worth $75K
I just can't see a Honda V6 turbo hitting sub 5's in such a heavy vehicle. Perhaps the RDX Type S (when it arrives) might possibly turn times in the high 4's.

fiatlux

It might even be barely sub 6 seconds. High 5s with a good launch is probably most realistic.