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Old 03-24-2017, 10:28 AM
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Agreed. And to get the correct OD you don't have to run rubberband tires.
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so im goin with the 18x8.75 plus 20, 225 tires and lowered on flex z coils that r getting installed tomorrow. gonna lower about 2.0 in and then put on the wheels and see if I need a fender roll.
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Originally Posted by Weezy2390
so im goin with the 18x8.75 plus 20, 225 tires and lowered on flex z coils that r getting installed tomorrow. gonna lower about 2.0 in and then put on the wheels and see if I need a fender roll.
Good luck man - post up some pics once you got it all squared away
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Does that sound like a solid set up
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Originally Posted by Weezy2390
Does that sound like a solid set up
Don't over think it bro - the more you analyze the more you stress out
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20s on a 3g tl!
No rubbing!

20s on a 3g tl!
No rubbing!

20s on a 3g tl!
No rubbing!
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Originally Posted by Funmonkey
20s on a 3g tl! No rubbing!
Bro, do you even read? The OP said...

im lookin for that wide....
this is my daily driver in northern nj...
i def wanna get 18s...
i need a happy medium so i can drive around nj cause we got some potholes and bumpy roads but nothing crazy...


Stop pimping your dubs with rubberband tires in the wrong thread.
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Yes I read! I like my g string tires, I was trying to show that there are options other than thinking your stuck with 18 or 19s.
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Yes this is my daily driver and it rides great. I just want people to know their are more options if you do your due diligence.
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Def gotta lower the front a tad bit more

4 from stiff in front and 6 from stiff in back seems pretty good so far, only been 3hrs since install thou



Rear camber kit def needed? What u think of the specs??
Yea i def dont want 20in rims on my car lol its not an suv....

but today we installed the flex z and it came out pretty good just gotta do some minor adjustments and i should be good to go. I wanna get th xxr wheels next!!!

whats a good summer tire that pairs with th xxr well

Im gonna post some pics and the alignment sheet. Pleae comment wnat uthink and any advice thanks!!
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You can see by your sheet why I got a rear camber kit, -3.1° is pretty aggressive, and will definitely cause some premature wear. Beyond that, it's .6° off from the right side.

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Here are my specs.


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Yeah what rear camber kit is the best
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I personally think 20" wheels look horrible on the TL
for a rear camber kit get spc
for a good all season tire that performs similar to a summer tire get the continental dws06, I love mine

i brought my rear camber in to -1 which is the middle of oem spec.
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Originally Posted by sockr1
for a rear camber kit get spc
I second this.

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for a good all season tire that performs similar to a summer tire get the continental dws06, I love mine
I second this as well, if you're into a no-season tire. For me it's the Summer-only Conti Extreme Contact Sport.

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i brought my rear camber in to -1 which is the middle of oem spec.
This is smart, if you've got the room. I was barely able to eek-out -1.5° with a little rub. When I get my 275's next time around it'll be -2° for sure.
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i'm -3 in the rear - tires have no irregular wear or premature wear on the inside - keep that toe in check to zero! I also rotate every 3 months ( i drive almost between 50 - 100 miles daily) These achilles atr sports have been awesome (more of a budget tire (only because after buying a new set of wheels I didn't have the cash flow for the Nitto)- they are a harder compound so I will get longer treadlife - handled so far so good in the rain, but I would also throw in for an all season tire - the Nitto Motivo - those were a pretty good set!

I agree on the SPC camber arms as well

The drop looks good, but yes drop the front down! Looks good homie!

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Ok i will def look into that and what camber spec is considered good and will not mess my tires up, the guys at firestone said no matter what tires i put on its gonna wear the tires

Also the installer recommended rear adjustiable end links, not sure why or what are? Anyone have these?

Damb 275, im goin 225 i wonder if im gonna rub with the xxr 530s
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Originally Posted by VisualEchos
You can see by your sheet why I got a rear camber kit, -3.1° is pretty aggressive, and will definitely cause some premature wear. Beyond that, it's .6° off from the right side.

EDIT:

Here are my specs.

Looks almost perfect , if i get a rear camber kit i would get same?
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the SPC kit allows you to adjust plenty for the camber - you're really gonna have to see how it looks once you get the wheels and tires mounted, and then get the alignment done. I'm at 245/40 and I don't rub (only on the fronts and thats only going over dips) - with the 225 being more narrow you'll have plenty of the room in the rear - if you rub - a few things - raise it, massage the fender with some rolling/pulling and lastly, more camber lol..as long as you are not planning to lay frame, you should't have much rubbing to worry about. I sit at 24" from ground to fender lip in the front, and 24.5" ground to fender lip in the rear - taking the measurement from the bottom of the tire through the hub to the fender
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YEah i remember when my friend was installing it was like 24.5 rear idk about the front but either way stock or xxr 530 18x8.75 with 225 tires i would need camber kit and rolled fenders...would those wheel fit on with 24.5 measurement?
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Originally Posted by Weezy2390
Looks almost perfect , if i get a rear camber kit i would get same?
Yeah, SPC front and rear. I only have the rear at the moment, but will be installing the fronts before the 275's go on.

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if you rub - a few things - raise it, massage the fender with some rolling/pulling and lastly, more camber lol..as long as you are not planning to lay frame, you should't have much rubbing to worry about.
But there are 2 kinds of rub, one on the inside of the fender/quarter lip, and one on the bottom of the fender/quarter lip.

If you are rubbing on the inside you would roll, then camber, then pull. Raising the car will add camber, which will cause more rub. On the other hand, if you're rubbing on the bottom of the lip you should raise first (as you said), then roll, then camber. I never suggest people pull unless they are hardcore guys, you can really mess things up doing that.
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This was with -2.6° in the rear, which is why I got the SPC kit.


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Now the tire shows complete even wear side to side, and even looks much wider in the rear because all of the contact patch side-to-side shows as a different shade than the sidewall (which is always covered in armor-all ).
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But there are 2 kinds of rub, one on the inside of the fender/quarter lip, and one on the bottom of the fender/quarter lip.

If you are rubbing on the inside you would roll, then camber, then pull. Raising the car will add camber, which will cause more rub. On the other hand, if you're rubbing on the bottom of the lip you should raise first (as you said), then roll, then camber. I never suggest people pull unless they are hardcore guys, you can really mess things up doing that.
You are correct sir - it's been a long ass day Skunk2 is a viable option for the front as well, I have the Skunk2 UCA's laying in my office, just need to get them installed. Pulling is more of a last resort true - really have to clean out the fender to get rid of the debris/rocks and what not - you will push all that into the quarter panel as you pull the metal - so yes, only when absolute - i'm going to be pulling a bit more on mine, going to try to get some wider tires on there to get more flare without bolt on flares...we'll see how it goes, want to make my next wheels 10.5" in the rear, so we'll see how that goes
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Im kinda confused, the fronts have upper and lower and rears are just lower and r they sold as pairs? Anyone have links

what about adjustable rear end linka
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the suspension set up on the 3g is a front double wishbone (the adjustment for camber in front is via the upper control arm), and the rear is multi-link ( you have a camber arm and a toe arm).
here is a basic diagram of the front - you have an upper control arm and a lower control arm, camber adjustment is mostly handled by the upper control arm/ball joint, only so much adjustment the stock arm/joint can do, so getting an adjustable balljoint or the skunk2 UCA will help accommodate greater range of adjustment +/-
Here is a shot of the rear links - camber arm and toe arm - sometimes you need to replace both arms (if they the bolts are frozen) p.s.this is not my car btw lol - my exhaust is not rusted out
the SPC rear camber arm ties into the ball joint and you can adjust camber that way also in the rear

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Originally Posted by Weezy2390
Im kinda confused, the fronts have upper and lower and rears are just lower and r they sold as pairs? Anyone have links

what about adjustable rear end linka
i'm not hugely familiar with the end links - however, for camber kits - you can look to endlessrpm.com and heeltoeauto.com - they both sell kits and suspension components
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Originally Posted by Boosejars
...want to make my next wheels 10.5" in the rear, so we'll see how that goes...
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Can someone link me the right part i need for the rear please and how many of each i need thanks
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Originally Posted by Weezy2390
Can someone link me the right part i need for the rear please and how many of each i need thanks
Some go with the SPC EZ arm and some stick with the camber/toe arm links, and some have done all three - depends on your preference...

Here is the links for the SPC
Endless sells them by the pair - SPC Performance Rear EZ Arm w/Ball Joint Camber kit (Pair) - EndLess RPM
Heeltoe sells them as singles - https://www.heeltoeauto.com/spc-adju...l-s-67095.html

Here is the links for the arms (you need two per side (4 altogether) one is for camber, one is for toe)
Endless sells them as a group of all 4 - Ingalls alignment kit (4 bars) camber kit - EndLess RPM
Heeltoe sells them as a pair - https://www.heeltoeauto.com/ingalls-...ua7-38725.html
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Originally Posted by VisualEchos
I second this.

I second this as well, if you're into a no-season tire. For me it's the Summer-only Conti Extreme Contact Sport.

This is smart, if you've got the room. I was barely able to eek-out -1.5° with a little rub. When I get my 275's next time around it'll be -2° for sure.
Same wavelength Andrew!!

are the tires you run ok to use down to 35 degrees? We rarely see those temps but I want a stickier tire next round. I think I may have asked you that before haha

also so I can barely run -1, it's pretty close to my rolled fender in the rear
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Originally Posted by sockr1
Same wavelength Andrew!!

are the tires you run ok to use down to 35 degrees? We rarely see those temps but I want a stickier tire next round. I think I may have asked you that before haha

also so I can barely run -1, it's pretty close to my rolled fender in the rear
Yes, perfectly fine in 35° weather. The issue with the Summer tires is that they get too hard in sub-zero temps, making driving on ice or snow super difficult, but doing such would not cause the tire any damage. I use my stock wheels and Winter tires for temps that low, but could use the Conti's for sure.

-1° is super mild, plenty left .
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Originally Posted by Boosejars
Some go with the SPC EZ arm and some stick with the camber/toe arm links, and some have done all three - depends on your preference...

Here is the links for the SPC
Endless sells them by the pair - SPC Performance Rear EZ Arm w/Ball Joint Camber kit (Pair) - EndLess RPM
Heeltoe sells them as singles - https://www.heeltoeauto.com/spc-adju...l-s-67095.html

Here is the links for the arms (you need two per side (4 altogether) one is for camber, one is for toe)
Endless sells them as a group of all 4 - Ingalls alignment kit (4 bars) camber kit - EndLess RPM
Heeltoe sells them as a pair - https://www.heeltoeauto.com/ingalls-...ua7-38725.html
so i would need to get one from the spc links and one from the arm? and i would be good to go? i think i would go endless on both
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Order a pair of spc and you're done. Then install everything and play with it from there. Don't over think it too much you need to start installing and see how your car sits
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Endless sells them by the pair - SPC Performance Rear EZ Arm w/Ball Joint Camber kit (Pair) - EndLess RPM
so get this and my friend should be able to install and make the adjustment or does firestone do that?
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Buy those yes. Then get the alignment shop to adjust them once you install them
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alright thanks! ordering now!




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