When do you need a camber kit?

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Old 10-28-2010, 11:00 AM
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When do you need a camber kit?

I just put my 19's on, they are 245/35/19 tires.

After F2 Type 1 drop, the alignement shows that I am running -2.1 degrees camber in the rear and -1.5 degrees in the front.

NOT terrible and about a 0.5 degress off from spec for both the front and rear.

Do I need camber kits or will I be fine?

Anyone running similar camber? Can you tell me how your tires are wearing?

Thanks!!!
Old 10-28-2010, 11:13 AM
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Anytime the measurements are outside the OE specifications a camber kit is needed. No matter how minimal the difference, the tires are going to wear unevenly.
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Damn!!!

Now I have to spend more money. My wife is going to be pissed...

Good thing I bought the lifetime Firestone Alignment.
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read the sticky above please this question gets asked alot and that sticky was to help and clarify this to people.

u dont need a camber kit really. i am running 19's with a -2.9 camber in the rear and a -1.1 in the front i havent noticed any excessive wear as of yet and i have like 5000 miles on the tires since the drop. if i was any more cambered in the back i would prob get a kit just because i dont like the look of the excessive camber.

your rear tires are free riding with not that much weight on them so they are not going to wear that bad due to camber
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The Firestone guy told me the same. He said don't worry about Camber kits, just rotate your tires often...
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i just did an aligment and my car is really drop, about 2.2 inch front and 2.0" rear. The guys who was doing the aligment in a hunter machine told me that it was perfect and i would not required any camber kit. i was so happy to hear that and this is a guys that deals with most aftermark cars around my area.
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Originally Posted by sac2006TL
The Firestone guy told me the same. He said don't worry about Camber kits, just rotate your tires often...
if you are running same sized tires even better... i cant rotate since i am running a staggered setup so i am sure regardless of camber i will go through wheels faster than i did with my stockies since i rotated those ones and got 62,000 miles out of them. i have 7000 on my new tires 5000 of which are on lowered and no crazy wear i just made sure they aligned the toe as that will kill tires alot faster than camber will!

save your $$ and just rotate
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Be more concerned with toe than camber, if your toe is good, then those camber measurements arent too bad.
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^Agreed. My camber was a bit out of spec which didn't affect the tire wear, but the toe is what killed my rear tires in 5 months.
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If you do a search and read into all the replies you'll find that most state that a rotation will keep the uneven wear to a minimum. The tires will wear uneven if the camber is out and I defy anyone to say it won't and let's not hear its only minimal wear on the I/S, it's still wear.

To keep tire wear perfect you'll need a camber kit to get it into spec.
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
If you do a search and read into all the replies you'll find that most state that a rotation will keep the uneven wear to a minimum. The tires will wear uneven if the camber is out and I defy anyone to say it won't and let's not hear its only minimal wear on the I/S, it's still wear.

To keep tire wear perfect you'll need a camber kit to get it into spec.
Word ^^

Don't forget that too much rear camber relative to the front will also lead to more understeer at the limit. You want some, but not too much. Around -1.5 degrees in back is a good compromise between handling and wear for me.
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
If you do a search and read into all the replies you'll find that most state that a rotation will keep the uneven wear to a minimum. The tires will wear uneven if the camber is out and I defy anyone to say it won't and let's not hear its only minimal wear on the I/S, it's still wear.

To keep tire wear perfect you'll need a camber kit to get it into spec.
Totally agreed.

My rear tires have accelerated wear with a moderate drop and slightly increased negative camber....even with regular rotation. I have adjustable SmartArm links on order...tires are just too damn expensive to have wearing out that quick.
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Originally Posted by binhsterbinh
Don't forget that too much rear camber relative to the front will also lead to more understeer at the limit. You want some, but not too much. Around -1.5 degrees in back is a good compromise between handling and wear for me.
Originally Posted by Ramrodthrusterpuppy
Totally agreed.
My rear tires have accelerated wear with a moderate drop and slightly increased negative camber....even with regular rotation. I have adjustable SmartArm links on order...tires are just too damn expensive to have wearing out that quick.

For all the readers, always remember that if one is doing a modification of any kind, do it right to receive its full benefit. Why cut corners to save a few bucks when in the long run it will end up costing more?
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Originally Posted by binhsterbinh
Word ^^

Don't forget that too much rear camber relative to the front will also lead to more understeer at the limit. You want some, but not too much. Around -1.5 degrees in back is a good compromise between handling and wear for me.
Originally Posted by Ramrodthrusterpuppy
Totally agreed.

My rear tires have accelerated wear with a moderate drop and slightly increased negative camber....even with regular rotation. I have adjustable SmartArm links on order...tires are just too damn expensive to have wearing out that quick.
Originally Posted by Turbonut

For all the readers, always remember that if one is doing a modification of any kind, do it right to receive its full benefit. Why cut corners to save a few bucks when in the long run it will end up costing more?
All of the above!! I weighed the options, and for the extra $140 for the rear camber, that would be the price of 1 tire, so I purchased the Ingalls Rear! I agree with the Turbo. My
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I would at least install the rear camber kit; Ingalls make a kit that adjusts toe and camber. It will save you money by not eating up tires prematurely. I would say it's more cost-effective than replacing tires or paying someone to rotate your tires every oil change.

This is the kit; notice it includes two arms (one for camber and one for toe). You need a qty of 2 to complete the rear of a car.

http://store.excelerateperformance.c...5/i-60220.aspx
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Im with the rest of the guys, dont worry about camber, just worry about toe, on my autocouture 20s I was running alot of negative camber and all I did was adjust toe and I was great with tire wear.
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