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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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What is reasonable camber?

So a couple months back I got an alignment and I'm at -4.1 camber in the back and like 1 number lower in the front ~3ish. Dunno how it is THAT bad with only a 1.75" drop with SP3 and Eibach Springs. I have a Eiback Camber Kit on its way (rear) to install but it is only adjustable by +/- 2 camber. I have near 0 toe all around but will -2 camber eat my tires? My hankook v12 lasted 25k miles (rear) and the fronts still have about 5k which is about right for v12 (30k that is). Ive already ordered general GMAx for the back and was wondering if the camber is OK as long as the toe is fine. Dunno why my camber is that bad considering my friend is dropped 3" and his camber isn't even worse than mine. :/
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Any camber beyond the -1.5 degrees is going to exhibit inside tire wear albeit minimal. Don't know why it would be at -4 degrees, but although not normal could that be the total camber e.g. -2 each side?
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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One side is -4.1, the other is -3.9. He said something about messing with camber so toe could be zero, originally it was slightly lower with bad toe.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much about the camber. I run -3 in the rear and -2 up front and with the toe in spec there is minimal camber wear.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TLDude876
I wouldn't worry too much about the camber. I run -3 in the rear and -2 up front and with the toe in spec there is minimal camber wear.
But there still is camber wear.

Ingall's is +/- 3 degrees camber and +/- 3 degrees toe.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
But there still is camber wear.

Ingall's is +/- 3 degrees camber and +/- 3 degrees toe.
True but that's the price I have to pay in order to play I have ingalls in the rear
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TLDude876
True but that's the price I have to pay in order to play I have ingalls in the rear
So true, and the Ingall's specs were for the OP.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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Thanks Turbo and Dennis (?). Shoulda got Ingalls but guy is selling me Eibach for 85 shipped new can beat that.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
Thanks Turbo and Dennis (?). Shoulda got Ingalls but guy is selling me Eibach for 85 shipped new can beat that.
Can't beat the price, but if it doesn't correct the condition what good is it? I've said this before, people spend thousands on tires, wheels, suspension components and want to cheapen out on the one item that will correct the suspension geometry problems, camber/toe kits. Guess they would rather wear tires out then spend the $168 for Ingalls kit rear and/or $249 for the Skunk front. I certainly would want to have it done properly, but that's me, every item must be correct.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 09:23 PM
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Yeah I'm like that to. I have lifetime alignments and the $85 won't hurt. I'm aiming for -1 camber or less somehow and if I don't get it I'll buy a different kit. Worth a shot
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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Idk if this is relevant but even with ingalls in the rear the closest the guy could get to oem specs is -2.5. The alignment has held up for almost a year with my tires in surprisingly in great shape. If you want to be low and retain oem specs, you'll have to get skunk2 upper arms as well.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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off topic, and excuse my ignorance as Im new to tl's, but does the washer trick work on these cars like it does with older (90's)civic/integra/accords?
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by shenrie
off topic, and excuse my ignorance as Im new to tl's, but does the washer trick work on these cars like it does with older (90's)civic/integra/accords?
unfortunately, it does not. the upper control arm mounts to the body differently.

off topic: i sent you a PM. your name looks familiar and might be a long lost friend.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 12:21 AM
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Do you need all the camber? are you fitting wheels with a lower offset? Then your current setup is ok. If the wheels you have are stock or not that aggressive, Stock camber is good IMO. Too much camber increases stopping distances.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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^^^ agreed. unless you need the space for fitment, I personally wouldnt exceed 2-2.5 degrees if not actually using vehicle for competition.

Originally Posted by JETSPD1477
unfortunately, it does not. the upper control arm mounts to the body differently.

off topic: i sent you a PM. your name looks familiar and might be a long lost friend.
bummer, and thanks for info. I am indeed same person, but i cant send you a pm as I am still rookie status here
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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if that camber kit is gonna fix the camber from -4.1 to -2.1, you will be fine. I had a -2.3 (I think) for over 3 years and I never had abnormal tire wear
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Yeah we'll see how it goes. I am aiming for -2 or lower (or higher technically).
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