rmarin2

tirerack would not sell them to me because their load capacity is approx 100lbs less than the stock michelins. The sumitomo htr+ has a load cap of approx 1300lbs and the stock mich have a load cap of approx 1400lbs. Is that 100lbs difference a major concern or is it within a tolerable limit?

thanks

-Rich

fla-tls

Well, if the weight of the car is around 3,700 pounds with people in it, and a 60/40 weight split front to rear, that would put an estimated 1110 lbs on each front wheel. I don't see a big deal with 1300 lbs vs. 1400 lbs... (and with people in it, the weight distribution wouldn't be 60/40 any more - I'd probably be more even)

BTW - I've never heard of the Tire Rack doing that - did you bring up the load rating or did they?

rmarin2

I placed the order from the website and they called me about the load capacity of the tires! It's good that they called but I'm just curious if they are nit-picking or if i can get away with the difference!

fla-tls

Just looked at the max load rating of the car... It's actually kind'a close...

At 3470 (typical TLS w/navi) + 850 (max load rating), with a 60/40 weight distribution, that's 1296 lbs for each front wheel - awfully close to the 1300 limit.

I still think the weight ratio wouldn't be 60/40 anymore - maybe more like 55/45 - at that, it's 1188/front wheel.

It's close, but I think they should sell them to 'ya. They're probably afraid of litigation if one blows.

(that sucks - I was going to buy them as well.....)

fla-tls

What a load of ****. According to their site, the The stock tires are 1433, and the Sumi's are 1356 (only a 77 lb diff.)

Hey - if they don't sell them to you, go somewhere else and get them. I've heard nothing but good things about them.

rmarin2

Well I was thinking about just lying about the car its for and getting them anyway. The trick would be trying to figure out what car to "pretend" to have so that the manufacturer recommended load capacity = load cap of sumi's!!

-Rich

jkozlow3

That's weird...I ordered the Sumi's online in September and the Tirerack never called me about it. Maybe they just want you to spend more on the POS Michelins.

TopGum

Maybe it is just the sales rep you got. I'd try again if you really like them. After all, they list it as a stock replacement.

Mr.T

They sold them to me tooo. They didn't say anything. I just needed some tires for tempery anyways. I didn't feel like paying alot. Suminto are lik 99 bucks so that's a deal for the money and also their treadwear is alot better than the OEM tires.

Mr.T

stan kiang

I just ordered a new set of HTR+ from them and they never said a word about load balancing problems. Mine have been mounted and used for about 2 mos now and they are great. I used to have HTRZs and the difference seems to be day and night comfortwise. These tires clearly offer a more comfortable ride and its handling abilities are great. Lately it has been raining a lot here in N Cali and the wet traction has been superb. If Tire Rack won't sell them to you, go and get them somewhere else. They are great tires. BTW, mine are 225/45/17.

nym31mp

hey guys y dont u take a look a these tires i think im gonna get these.....what do u think heres the link...

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....num=15WR7ES100

yitbos

I had the same thing happen when I ordered my Potenza's. I rep called to verify that I ordered the right tires b/c they were wider than the stock michelins. I told him that it wasn't I mistake, and then he put the order in. I believe that they are just tyring to ensure that the right tires are going to be sent out, and you don't have to return them.

chikai

I just ordered a set of 215/50/17 Sumitomo HTR+ for my CL-S for my stock rims.

I got no phone calls, and received an email the same day saying they were shipped. I guess if you want to lie to them you can say you drive a CL-S. That's weird though, cause the weight difference isn't that great.

Anyway, if you can't get the 215/50 try getting a 235/45/17 they are the closests size to stock and have a weight rating of 93 or 94...which is plenty for our cars.

edit: opps, I forgot the TL-S has 6.5 inch wide wheels. The 235 barely fits on our 7 inch wheels. so scratched the 235 idea

rmarin2

Well I placed the order again with tirerack for 225/45/17, but this time I said it was for a 2002 Altima :yack: and I still got a phone call! But this time while I was on the phone with him he realized he made a mistake about the load capacity difference and said its all good, I would just have to inflate them to 36psi (whatever)!! So it looks like I'll be getting my tires afterall! I'm just waiting for the shipped email and I'll be happy!!

I wonder if the difference in load cap between stock and the htr+ is going to cause problems????